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I'm sure everyone is aware of the attack in Afghanistan earlier in the week thats left 90 dead. Why is everyone on Misc so quiet when this attacks happen outside of the western world, is it because i… Read More
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3w, 3d agoPosted 3 weeks, 3 days ago
I'm sure everyone is aware of the attack in Afghanistan earlier in the week thats left 90 dead.

Why is everyone on Misc so quiet when this attacks happen outside of the western world, is it because it doesn't fit in to their narrative of trying to paint everything in simplistic terms.

Is it just too much, just too terrifying for them that they must block out and ignore events that fly in the face of their precived simplistic view of the world?
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3w, 3d agoPosted 3 weeks, 3 days ago
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home. Most people in 2017 understand this.


yea, we bomb the hell out of them and ruin their country and then have guts to say its normal now for them to kill each other in Afghan and the rest!

show some remorse in your hypocrisy
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It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home.

Most people in 2017 understand this.
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Hey i didnt know about this till now.
The media tends to keep this very hush hush
Its a sad sad world
All human life should matter not just the ones that are closer to us.
When we dont care we become souless!

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7 Likes #1
It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home.

Most people in 2017 understand this.
banned 4 Likes #2
Well done miscer for sharing this news.
I think people don't care anymore and that's the reality.
banned 13 Likes #3
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home. Most people in 2017 understand this.


yea, we bomb the hell out of them and ruin their country and then have guts to say its normal now for them to kill each other in Afghan and the rest!

show some remorse in your hypocrisy
#4
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
1 Like #5
iwashere2000
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home.
Most people in 2017 understand this.
yea, we bomb the hell out of them and ruin their country and then have guts to say its normal now for them to kill each other in Afghan and the rest!
show some remorse in your hypocrisy

Did you want to have another go at reading my post? Commonplace does not mean 'normal'.

Just like your type of vitriol is commonplace on the internet. It's still not normal.
3 Likes #6
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home.
Most people in 2017 understand this.

Spot on - this is such an obvious bait thread.
1 Like #7
Social media narrows the groups we identify with. and for many reasons people don't identify with people who look different to them, its much easier to share empathy and compassion with groups people identify with.

Plus you cant win these days, there is an element of politics to most social media posts, Post Flag of Manchester on your timeline with some twee comment, and you will be vilified as not caring about people in downtown Kabul, and if you post something about Terror attacks out of Europe, your likely villified as well.
7 Likes #8
Hey i didnt know about this till now.
The media tends to keep this very hush hush
Its a sad sad world
All human life should matter not just the ones that are closer to us.
When we dont care we become souless!
1 Like #9
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.

But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
4 Likes #10
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.

You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.

Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.
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optimus_prime2
Hey i didnt know about this till now.
The media tends to keep this very hush hush
Its a sad sad world
All human life should matter not just the ones that are closer to us.
When we dont care we become souless!

Well the BBC did mention it yesterday around midday, one of their corispondants was among the dead.
#12
Error440

I'm sure everyone is aware of the attack in Afghanistan earlier in the week thats left 90 dead.
Why is everyone on Misc so quiet when this attacks happen outside of the western world, is it because it doesn't fit in to their narrative of trying to paint everything in simplistic terms.
Is it just too much, just too terrifying for them that they must block out and ignore events that fly in the face of their precived simplistic view of the world?
Could it be that they are paid to pay specific attention as agent provocateurs; hear voices in their heads and go about with a sense of specific purpose; the devil makes idle hands type ; just a plain hater and scaffoldeded from early childhood to be negative.....one has to ask questions especially why some post ever so few deals in a shopping web site if they got so much time.
If they got time to kill and have a genuine aspiration to fix controversies with positive answers and solutions , then web sites like charity web sites, such as Trussel Trust, Kings Fund, universities like LSE, Oxford & Cambridge & King's ... and others like Gresham College provide a lot of answers to social controversies and they can actually do something that's purposeful to society and find for themselves a sense of identity and belonging (to the current multi-cultural and neo-liberal world).
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riverman
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.

Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.

Point score on a forum of faceless people how is that done? I find it telling that no one posted any threads about it, it just shows how low Misc has slipped down.
#14
Error440
riverman
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.
Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.
Point score on a forum of faceless people how is that done? I find it telling that no one posted any threads about it, it just shows how low Misc has slipped down.

It's been explained why in the first thread. This is either another baiting thread or another of those threads where someone asks why easily understood things are the way they are.
#15
Error440
riverman
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.
Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.
Point score on a forum of faceless people how is that done? I find it telling that no one posted any threads about it, it just shows how low Misc has slipped down.

Then what is the point of this thread?
#16
riverman
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.

Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.
It is a useful headline "vehicle" to lead a full bodied discussion and debate. A valid tool commonly used here, a headline on a thread ... then anything goes. You cannot accuse him of this as it is a common communication method - a headline bait.
4 Likes #17
The media tends to only show what it wants
Like most people dont know how bad it is in Burma
#18
riverman
Error440
riverman
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.
Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.
Point score on a forum of faceless people how is that done? I find it telling that no one posted any threads about it, it just shows how low Misc has slipped down.
Then what is the point of this thread?
In general, although I post here, there is NO point at all with these discussion topics unless you have a mission as I summarised a few in the above. Better all these political and econo-political threads to go elsewhere.

Edited By: splender on Jun 02, 2017 10:54
#19
To draw attention both to an attack and to the silence over it and to discuss why the silence is deafening when Muslims attack other Muslims.
3 Likes #20
Error440
To draw attention both to an attack and to the silence over it and to discuss why the silence is deafening when Muslims attack other Muslims.


Despite the horrendous nature of this happening, anywhere, for most in countries such as the UK, it can only act as a reminder of the need for a zero tolerance approach to those who wish to bring such barbarity to further countries. Sad as it truly is, some countries are beyond help as it has escalated too far. It is only natural that we reserve most of our horror, and resolve, to make sure our way of life is not allowed to be diminished to a similar extent where one day in the future, an event such as this in the UK is met with similar indifference. Without being disrespectful to the losses suffered in Kabul, that is the harsh reality of people's varying reaction to this, and atrocities in the UK.


Edited By: Saturn on Jun 02, 2017 11:17: .
1 Like #21
optimus_prime2
The media tends to only show what it wants
Like most people dont know how bad it is in Burma
Correct, if one is sincere about humanity, one has to pull the information rather than let it pumped to you. I never ever use news apps.
Good sources to pull information from are Trussel Trust, Kings Fund, universities like LSE, Oxford & Cambridge & King's ... and others like Gresham College provide a lot of answers to social controversies. The United Nations mega set of web sites for issues and problems around the world is another good source. Then there is quality subscription magazines like Time magazine.
#22
what stopped you from posting it before now?

Have you only just become aware of it?
#23
splender
riverman
Error440
riverman
Error440
XxLJCJxX
Probably because it's happened outside of Europe. People die every second of everyday, yes it's sad but it's life. Bad things happen and will always happen.
But there is a certain narrative that is played out here on Misc and many other places of a simple them and us mentality that does no one any favours. This leads to the hand wringing over western attacks and the shrugging of shoulders and ignoring attacks elsewhere. Personally i think it more to do with cognitive bias then anything else.
You are trying to highlight the alleged 'agenda' in this thread, rather than the atrocity in Kabul.
Trying to point score off the back of mass deaths is pretty sick imo.
Point score on a forum of faceless people how is that done? I find it telling that no one posted any threads about it, it just shows how low Misc has slipped down.
Then what is the point of this thread?
In general, although I post here, there is NO point at all with these discussion topics unless you have a mission as I summarised a few in the above.

Defeatist attitude there, if you surrender to the useral stuff that gets posted here your never provide anything for those who would like to break away from it to contribute too and misc will continue its downward spiral as the argument ground for multis arguing with themselves.
3 Likes #24
davewave
what stopped you from posting it before now? Have you only just become aware of it?


Sitting here waiting for a thread that never came and finding that strange.
1 Like #25
iwashere2000
yea, we bomb the hell out of them and ruin their country and then have guts to say its normal now for them to kill each other in Afghan and the rest! show some remorse in your hypocrisy


Yeah, like they weren't killing themselves for centuries before the west tried to help them! oO
#26
Error440
davewave
what stopped you from posting it before now?

Have you only just become aware of it?

Sitting here waiting for a thread that never came and finding that strange.


perhaps others were also waiting...what a shame eh that others are being criticised by you for doing the same thing as you.
#27
It's just muslims killing muslims way of life to them !!!!!
Wait till they start doing it here.
#28
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
It's Afghanistan. It's more commonplace ergo less newsworthy and we simply care more about things that are closer to home.
Most people in 2017 understand this.

Unfortunately this.

I know we are all human but I guess we just accept it is commonplace in the Middle East, central Asia and North Africa.
3 Likes #29
davewave
perhaps others were also waiting...what a shame eh that others are being criticised by you for doing the same thing as you.


And yet you of all people are normally the first to shout terrorism and excitedly post over any incident. Did you have a couple of days off?
#30
Error440
davewave
what stopped you from posting it before now?
Have you only just become aware of it?
Sitting here waiting for a thread that never came and finding that strange.
Your view is precise. Your post is a consequence of the comments that you had read in these threads. Your sense of ordering and sequencing , which is a human innate trait, of the comments had caused you to see the irrationality and perversity and made you do this thread, IMHO.
#31
So a thread not actually about the attack, but bait to attack other members.

Seems like Spam to me.
#32
splender
Error440
davewave
what stopped you from posting it before now?
Have you only just become aware of it?
Sitting here waiting for a thread that never came and finding that strange.
Your view is precise. Your post is a consequence of the comments that you had read in these threads. Your sense of ordering and sequencing , which is a human innate trait, of the comments had caused you to see the irrationality and perversity and made you do this thread, IMHO.

I've gotten very logical over the past few months, i view most things thru anyletical eyes based on all the books i keep reading from a site that provides free psychology ebooks
#33
tadcaster
It's just muslims killing muslims way of life to them !!!!!
Wait till they start doing it here.

Already has...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3509367/Muslim-shopkeeper-stabbed-death-hours-posted-happy-Easter-message.html
#34
Error440
splender
Error440
davewave
what stopped you from posting it before now?
Have you only just become aware of it?
Sitting here waiting for a thread that never came and finding that strange.
Your view is precise. Your post is a consequence of the comments that you had read in these threads. Your sense of ordering and sequencing , which is a human innate trait, of the comments had caused you to see the irrationality and perversity and made you do this thread, IMHO.
I've gotten very logical over the past few months, i view most things thru anyletical eyes based on all the books i keep reading from a site that provides free psychology ebooks
A fraction of the controversy here in MISC, far and near, is a consequence of the huge controversy that's broadly named, "The Iraq Question". If you went on holiday as a Brit to neutral countries, if one happens to stray into, "are you scared in London?", ordinary natives most likely pin the issues we have at home here with why o why there were missions to Iraq a while ago.
#35
I simply don't care!
#36
It could be that the posters of some of these threads were busy when the story broke..

We do have a new story from today though..

http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/35-bodies-found-resorts-world-manila-philippines-official-says-2707488
4 Likes #37
Graham1979
I simply don't care!

BBC LICENCE FEE!

Did that wake you up?
banned 1 Like #38
chocci
iwashere2000
yea, we bomb the hell out of them and ruin their country and then have guts to say its normal now for them to kill each other in Afghan and the rest! show some remorse in your hypocrisy


Yeah, like they weren't killing themselves for centuries before the west tried to help them! oO


dear chocci,
wait one minute..... wait one minute... what did christians and Catholics do around the globe since man came to planet ??? oh pitty, pitty. ..... that's called what????
British ruled and took over a 1/5 th of the planet, america belonged to the native indians and they killed billions of them.
The christians, atheists and Catholics can i say without offending anyone have been killing each other since mankind began! they even crucified Jesus !! stoles billions of wealth, gold, tea, chocolate and still at
:( greed never ends does it
#39
Error440
davewave
perhaps others were also waiting...what a shame eh that others are being criticised by you for doing the same thing as you.


And yet you of all people are normally the first to shout terrorism and excitedly post over any incident. Did you have a couple of days off?


i was waiting for you to post., were you waiting for me?
#40
I'd like to know more information about a local rapist than a rapist from Afghanistan raping Afghan woman. I'd also prefer it was talked about more often on forums such as this one and TBH the Afghan rapist shouldn't even get a mention.

Similar principle applies here. Although 90 people dying over some nut job is a tragedy. It should be on the news here (As it was), but i'd soon prefer to know more about people dying more local to home than somewhere, someplace, far far away that doesn't immediately effect where i live. Or a place that has a large amount of British tourists, Afghanistan isn't one of them. You could call it selfish, if we knew about all the murders all over the world we'd all be in a state of depression.

Edited By: J4GG4 on Jun 02, 2017 13:31

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