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banned6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
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Anyone But England



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8733373.stm


Some sensible and some not so sensible comments within...... Worth a Read!

Police visited a Aberdeen clothes shop to warn staff that a T-shirt on display bearing the ABE slogan could be construed as racist. Predictably, the store would go on to report a surge in orders for the garment.

Racist? Banter? Insecurity? Inferiority Complex? Jingoism?

You decide!


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banned#1
#2
in b4 the arguments
#3
banter, im english and it doesnt bother me. end of the day we are in the world cup they arnt!
#5
Are you really just privy to this now?

Or are you just bored and want to start an argument?
#6
the shop the police visited in february was actually in edinburgh(on the royal mile) so they have their facts wrong there.

sports direct are also selling tshirts with the slogan "I support 2 teams-Scotland and whoever England are playing"
banned#7


Haha... I'd not seen that one! Amusing I guess, but clearly just banter and not as nasty.
banned#8
moob
Are you really just privy to this now?

Or are you just bored and want to start an argument?


Yes. I'd not seen this before. You should have posted it if you were aware already!

BTW... you didnt answer the question.

barky
the shop the police visited in february was actually in edinburgh(on the royal mile) so they have their facts wrong there.

sports direct are also selling tshirts with the slogan "I support 2 teams-Scotland and whoever England are playing"


Newcastle fans will tell you the guy is an arse!
#9
doesnt bother me..... in other news I hate the welsh.
#10
guv
Yes. I'd not seen this before. You should have posted it if you were aware already!

BTW... you didnt answer the question.


Why would I bother - plenty of others have been rabbiting on about it for the past few weeks. It's been on every thread to do with football top offers, amongst a ton on the misc.

Surprised given the time you spend on here you haven't seen it.

To answer your questions:

No, yes, no, no.
#11
guv-out of interest-if a club team is playing in europe who ARENT your club do you support them against foreign opposition or do you want them to lose?

A lot of threads I have read on here seem to indicate that man utd fans/arsenal/chelsea/liverpool etc take great delight in one another LOSING in europe-seems to be a very common thing.

So there really is no difference to me in that attitude and that of Scots who want England to lose-I dont get any of it tbh.

Support ALL british teams in europe,support all British countries against foreign opponents-thats my attitude. The only time I want England to lose is when Scotland play them. The only time I want rangers or celtic to lose if if hibs play them.

You can be Scottish and British at the same time-I know I may be the minority,But I am one million percent behind England in the world cup.
#12
Just have Team GB then its all sorted nice and inclusive for all the [COLOR="Black"]UK[/COLOR], although that will bring out all the bigots......
banned#13
moob
Why would I bother - plenty of others have been rabbiting on about it for the past few weeks. It's been on every thread to do with football top offers, amongst a ton on the misc.

Surprised given the time you spend on here you haven't seen it.


Obviously not as much as you think then. Ive not heard of "ABE" before.

To answer your questions:

No, yes, no, no.


So this obvious hate being shown here... It's because I'm English and will be supporting my country in the World Cup, isn't it? (Awaits the predictable response.)
#14
will the irish support france if they play england in the world cup lol
banned#15
barky
guv-out of interest-if a club team is playing in europe who ARENT your club do you support them against foreign opposition or do you want them to lose?

A lot of threads I have read on here seem to indicate that man utd fans/arsenal/chelsea/liverpool etc take great delight in one another LOSING in europe-seems to be a very common thing.


I always want them to win... Apart from Ars*nal, and they are French anyhoo.

So there really is no difference to me in that attitude and that of Scots who want England to lose-I dont get any of it tbh.


If there is no difference, you should all be wanting us to win.... I want Scotland to do well. (Well I would!!!!!)

Support ALL british teams in europe,support all British countries against foreign opponents-thats my attitude. The only time I want England to lose is when Scotland play them. The only time I want rangers or celtic to lose if if hibs play them.


|Likewise (though I obviously couldnt care about Hibs, Celtic or Rangers)

You can be Scottish and British at the same time-I know I may be the minority,But I am one million percent behind England in the world cup.


You are a star Barky. :thumbsup:
banned#16
Guv,

Did you forget to append a question mark to your tag ?

Don't go on the wind up today and attempt to confuse banter with racism, there's enough nonsense about at the moment already.
banned#17
aScottishBloke
Guv,

Did you forget to append a question mark to your tag ?

Don't go on the wind up today and attempt to confuse banter with racism, there's enough nonsense about at the moment already.


Sorted. :-D

Can you sort out the hate mail I just received from a one of your angry fellow countrymen? :-D:w00t: (Serious Business!) :w00t:
#18
guv
Sorted. :-D

Can you sort out the hate mail I just received from a one of your angry fellow countrymen? :-D:w00t: (Serious Business!) :w00t:


Can't you just reply to me like a man, instead of crying about it like a little girly?
#19
guv
Obviously not as much as you think then. Ive not heard of "ABE" before.


I was making assumptions based upon the fact you have nearly 27k posts, and have been on the site about the same time as me.

guv
So this obvious hate being shown here... It's because I'm English and will be supporting my country in the World Cup, isn't it? (Awaits the predictable response.)


I really don't know what to say to that - other than to use one of your well used phrases:

WOW - just wow! :lol:

I don't have any hate at all for you - if I did it wouldn't have anything to do with your nationality. I like winding you up from time to time, that's all.

All that said - I genuinely think you're playing dumb here and are trying to incite an argument.
#20
Saw it months ago. Its only a bit of banter - looks fab worn with a kilt though :thumbsup:

There's even a facebook group called ABE which is taking it a bit too far I think - haven't even wasted my time reading any of it so no idea what it says.
banned#21
guv;8814087
Sorted. :-D

Can you sort out the hate mail I just received from a one of your angry fellow countrymen? :-D:w00t: (Serious Business!) :w00t:


Guv,

You have shown your true colours. I thought you were a little wiser than your OP suggests. It's nothing more than rivalry between 2 teams/nations who share the longest rivalry in international football. To attempt to take it down another line is poor, very poor indeed.

If you have received an abusive pm and wish to complain, do it through the relevant channels.
banned#22
I can say anyone but israel i'm not racist just against their foreign policy. Is israel even playing?
banned#23
moob
Can't you just reply to me like a man, instead of crying about it like a little girly?


But I'm all upset now. Boo hoo...... It's real tears you know. :w00t:

PS.. Please keep this On Topic. You dont seem to have got the hang of that itt.

Now.... as far as "true colours" aSB... as I've already said, I'd genuinely not heard about this shop being raided. Obviously the police didnt see it as "friendly banter / rivalry"...... so dont shoot the messenger. Many of the remarks on that page are actually very heartening to read.
#24
guv


PS.. Please keep this On Topic. You dont seem to have got the hang of that itt.



My reply was on topic - specifically the part you conveniently chose to edit out.
banned#25
moob
My reply was on topic - specifically the part you conveniently chose to edit out.


Sorry.... you're still off topic.... and i never edited anything out of your post (conveniently or otherwise.)



Nope... i checked.... nothing else found in that post. (Are you sure you "just like winding me up"?)

Your turn. :-D (Probably wise to remove your tags though) :-D
#26
These things always give me a cheap laugh.

Those offended lack a sense of humour.
#27
ridgerama
will the irish support france if they play england in the world cup lol


hell no, england all the way! The only time i'll say that!
banned#28
Alfonse
Just have Team GB then its all sorted nice and inclusive for all the [COLOR="Black"]UK[/COLOR], although that will bring out all the bigots......


Would a Team GB include any players who weren't English?

Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale and, um.....

But I will say this - I would definitely support Scotland in a major football competition.

(I say that safe in the knowledge that Scotland will never make the finals of an international tournament).
#29
FilthAndFurry
Would a Team GB include any players who weren't English?

Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale and, um.....


Craig Gordon - definitely better than any keeper in the English squad at the moment.


FilthAndFurry
(I say that safe in the knowledge that Scotland will never make the finals of an international tournament).


Or you mean your lack of knowledge, bearing in mind the fact we have qualified for several already. Lest we forget 1978, when we did qualify and you didn't, remarkably.:)
banned#30
moob

Or you mean your lack of knowledge, bearing in mind the fact we have qualified for several already. Lest we forget 1978, when we did qualify and you didn't, remarkably.:)


Times have changed. Scotland might have qualified in the past but the whole UEFA region has become far more competitive and you'll struggle to get a favourable seeding, which means you'll always be the third best team in your group (at best).

You may get the odd European Championship spot, which will be nice for you. But it's no World Cup:thumbsup:

EDIT: just seen your Euro 2012 group....how about 2016?
#31
FilthAndFurry
Times have changed. Scotland might have qualified in the past but the whole UEFA region has become far more competitive and you'll struggle to get a favourable seeding, which means you'll always be the third best team in your group (at best).

You may get the odd European Championship spot, which will be nice for you. But it's no World Cup:thumbsup:


you underestimate us, ok atm were simply not good enough but we have some quality players coming though now and i honestly think we will qualify for the next WC
banned#32
micoo
you underestimate us, ok atm were simply not good enough but we have some quality players coming though now and i honestly think we will qualify for the next WC


To be fair, I dont think he has. Its getting harder to qualify than it ever has been and your world ranking is simply a further handicap on top of not being very good.

But lets hope you do get there one day.
banned#33
guv
To be fair, I dont think he has. Its getting harder to qualify than it ever has been and your world ranking is simply a further handicap on top of not being very good.

But lets hope you do get there one day.


You've got to think though, by the time Scotland get to an international competition they could've just moved south, lost the accent, improved their health and met a nice English girl and pretty much consider themselves 'English'.
#34
FilthAndFurry
You've got to think though, by the time Scotland get to an international competition they could've just moved south, lost the accent, improved their health and met a nice English girl and pretty much consider themselves 'English'.


And you wonder why everyone outside England thinks you act like a nation of tadgers with an attitude like that.:whistling:
banned#35
moob
And you wonder why everyone outside England thinks you act like a nation of tadgers with an attitude like that.:whistling:


We don't use that word down here - you'll need to learn that if you want to be one of us:thumbsup:
#36
FilthAndFurry
Times have changed. Scotland might have qualified in the past but the whole UEFA region has become far more competitive and you'll struggle to get a favourable seeding, which means you'll always be the third best team in your group (at best).

You may get the odd European Championship spot, which will be nice for you. But it's no World Cup:thumbsup:

EDIT: just seen your Euro 2012 group....how about 2016?


I'm well aware of this. I was taking you to task on your poorly constructed remark - which made it out like Scotland hadn't qualified for a major final.

The seedings move continuously - it was only a few years ago we were actually seeded above England. I'm surprised you didn't know this what with your 'knowledge' of the game...:roll:

That, plus the comment you made about no other player than an English one would make the GB team - which, as is your want, was edited to spare your blushes.
#37
FilthAndFurry
You've got to think though, by the time Scotland get to an international competition they could've just moved south, lost the accent, improved their health and met a nice English girl and pretty much consider themselves 'English'.


lol, this type of attitude explains the avatar <<<<<<<
#38
wouldnt it be nice if scotland just got their own media,and stopped bitching over the garden fence.
absolutely nothing wrong with english commentators talking about england,problem is,through quirks of our british union,scotland has to listen to england talking.
cant you get scottish commentators for STV, or the bbc games,
we dont want you to have to endure our commentators,seriously,just causes resentment
but im sure 'some' scots would hunt down the english commentary anyway,to reinforce their bitterness
#39
FilthAndFurry
We don't use that word down here - you'll need to learn that if you want to be one of us:thumbsup:


But you understood it, which was the important part.:thumbsup:
#40
FilthAndFurry
Times have changed. Scotland might have qualified in the past but the whole UEFA region has become far more competitive and you'll struggle to get a favourable seeding, which means you'll always be the third best team in your group (at best).

You may get the odd European Championship spot, which will be nice for you. But it's no World Cup:thumbsup:

EDIT: just seen your Euro 2012 group....how about 2016?


remember euro 08 qualifying we got drawn with italy france and ukraine, who thought wed get anywhere in that group? and we went out on a bad ref decision

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