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A possible dilemma!

brettytopbanana Avatar
7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
Well as some of you will know I have just got a jobw hich i start next thursday.

I have the second interview for another job next tuesday, this is based in a care home.

the job I have taken is ok money but its working for a government organisation so a fairly stable job.
the job in the care home is around 2 grand more a year but i suppose its not all that stable.
Im jumping the gun a little here but if i was to get the job in the care home with more money I have no idea whether i would take it!

What do you lot think?
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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
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#1
A few things to consider, most importantly which one would you feel the most HAPPY in, which is more important to you (which you are already mulling) money or security, and really which one would offer career progression...the government organisation job may be low pay but would it have career progression options?

The old addage really of happiness, security, money and career progression.
#2
i'm not understanding why the care home position isn't seen as "stable"? Who owns the care home?
#3
just remember money doesnt equal happiness
#4
if you get the 2nd job then I'd say go with the one you like the most, ie the people you'd be working with, commute times and costs, shifts, etc

you could also try telling the govenment job boss about the offer and check whether there is scope for a payrise in the near future or matching the salary. but i'd only do that if you were happy to risk pee'ing them off and maybe taking the other job.

goodluck with the interview
banned#5
ClarityofMind
i'm not understanding why the care home position isn't seen as "stable"? Who owns the care home?


Not sure why a 'government job' is thought as stable

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brown-says-one-in-five-civil-servants-will-lose-jobs-755954.html
#6
Look at the 'extras', not just the money. Does one job give you better sick pay, holidays, pension, other perks ? These can all soon add up.
#7


yes I think we're all of us living in uncertain financial times.
#8
Remember: Salary is only part of the question.

The difference is £2k/year, which after Tax (22%) and National Insurance (10%), is about £1360 in yer pocket, or a shade over £26 a week or £5.20 a working day.

There's the whole package to consider; both what the job offers plus what the cost/benefit is to your overall lifestyle.

Pension: What contributions will the firm make? Add this to your package. How much will your contributions cost? Take this away.

Travel to/from work: How much and what's the difference? Work that out over a year (Say 45 working weeks) - with even a reasonable difference in travelling costs, this alone could stack up to a difference of £5.20 a day, if you say it costs 50p a mile overall to run a car or different train/bus fares, etc.

Perks: difference in Clothes provided etc.

Holiday entitlement?

Chances for promotion?

Do either offer recognised training to better yourself?

Bonuses?

etc, etc., etc.
#9
cico to be honest id feel happy in either job purely because im glad to be back in work. I did ask about progression in the government place and they said there isnt that much progression but occassionally opportunities do arise. As for the care home well it didnt seem like that kind of place to be honest and i guess there is probably about the same amount of progression. the company that owns the care home is 11 years old but there is nothing to say that it wont have to make cut backs. I know the government place could make cut backs but i see it as more of a stable option.
#10
the thing is i have been looking for work for 6 months so i cannot afford to be to picky but im just unsure of what would be the best bet. Both jobs have equal travelling distances.
#11
Working in a care home shouldn't be looked on as an unstable career, as my wife found out. She worked really happy in a care home for over 5 years and only left to go into hospital nursing. The care home put her through NVQs which were a step up the ladder for her when applying for the job in the local hospital.

If caring for the elderly or disabled is your calling, then you've got to go with your heart. If stability is a problem, there will always be other care homes, people are living longer and longer these days and they'll always need that "Special Person" to take care of them.

My wife didn't leave the elderly behind. She now works in a ward for the elderly and gets many visits from ladies she used to look after in the care home. She says, they always remember her and have beaming smiles when they know that it's her ward they're on.

Remember, government job could mean you just become a number, in the care home you could become an elderly persons friend!!
#12
brettytopbanana
the thing is i have been looking for work for 6 months so i cannot afford to be to picky but im just unsure of what would be the best bet. Both jobs have equal travelling distances.


well none of us know what might happen in either position... personally i'd go for more money x x
#13
clarity thats exactly my thinking, and although the extra money would be nice, i have no idea which job i would be happy in.
just for the record i wouldnt be a carer this is for an office job!
#14
its a problem but a nice problem to have.

I mean if i was offered the job for the care home maybe it would be worth going back to the government place and explaining that a job had cropped up offering me more money. Im not sure whether they would offer me more but it might be worth a try.
#15
go for the interview next Tuesday but start your new job on Thursday, tell them at the interview you have to give 2 weeks notice (or going away for 2 weeks) then you can trial the Government job if you then get offered the other job you will have an idea if you will like the government job, if you don't just leave and take the other job.
At the moment no job is safe but out of choice i would feel safer in the Government job than in the private sector.
#16
brettytopbanana
its a problem but a nice problem to have.

I mean if i was offered the job for the care home maybe it would be worth going back to the government place and explaining that a job had cropped up offering me more money. Im not sure whether they would offer me more but it might be worth a try.


I've just completed 30 years working for the Government, they don't work like that.
A lot depends on which part of the Government you will be working at,
look at the Government pension, although they may be about to change it will take some beating.
#17
I think that Fluffykins has made some very good points re the money. The pension especially is a lot more a risk, even if there is a good scheme, with the care home. A gov pension will be a safe bet. Others have made good points about the working environment, which you can check out when you go to the interview.
When it comes down to it though, we don't have crystal balls so go with your instincts Mysterio!!;-)
Nice that you have this choice to make and good luck with whatever you decide.:thumbsup:

edit: good points adding to the pension info from The Fox as well.
#18
the thing is both places looked decent, a care home is a care home, quiet as you would expect. The government place looked really relaxed as well, there is only 50 people working there.
#19
brettytopbanana
the thing is both places looked decent, a care home is a care home, quiet as you would expect. The government place looked really relaxed as well, there is only 50 people working there.


Think about the workload, the care home is owned by a private owner (?), he/she will want you to work hard and will not expect you to take time off unless it's convenient for them, sick will be frowned on, now the Government job will be totally different, if you go sick, then as far as they are concerned either someone else will do your work or you do it when you get back but you are not required to work hard to catch up. you will just work at your own pace.
The only problem you have with the Government job is if you don't like the job or don't like the people you are working with, this is why i suggest trying it for a couple of weeks so you can still take the other job if you don't like it.
If you are at present unemployed, does the care home know? can you tell them you have to give a months notice, this will give you a longer time to check out the Government job.
are you sure you would like the care home job?
have you spoken to any of the workers there?
banned#20
melissab;5703003
Look at the 'extras', not just the money. Does one job give you better sick pay, holidays, pension, other perks ? These can all soon add up.

+1

you get a gilt edged final salary pension with most civil service jobs :thumbsup:
#21
csiman
+1

you get a gilt edged final salary pension with most civil service jobs :thumbsup:


that's if pensions even exist in a few years from now :whistling:

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