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A rant about the NHS.....

tracyhay Avatar
6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
my little boy went to have his eyes tested again today appointment was at 9.30, he didnt get seen until 10.05. he then got the drops in so that they can check them better, which were to be left for 30 mins to take effect 11.00 still not been called in again, so I spoke to the stroppy receptionist explaining I had to be back by 11.30 to pick my girls up from nursery 11.15 walked out and told her I could not wait any longer.

so my little one didnt get his eyes tested which we have been waiting on getting done properly for 1yr the receptionist told me the next appointments are not until september!!!!!! so went home really pee'ed off,

thankfully the specialist phoned me later and said she could see him next month and he can get the eye test done the day before, they are going to give me the drops to put in, (evil things poor thing was breaking his heart) and she apologised about the disasterous morning all with a 3yo in tow what fun! rant over
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[mod]#1
Be thankful you didnt have to pay.
#2
magicjay1986;8573049
Be thankful you didnt have to pay.

+1
You dont always get seen on time but you get very good service normally.
banned#3
So you blame the hospital staff because you had to leave and pick up your other kids that you hadn't made provision for?
[mod]#4
Also, may I add that your rant should be at the actual practice and not at the NHS in general.
banned#5
magicjay1986
Be thankful you didnt have to pay.


I and my fella pay lot's of NI therefore we do pay.

NHS is badly run.

Hopefully this month he has his op.

He has waited 5 month's for it and has had about 10 appointments about it :x
#6
I used to have drops at my eye test, for glaucoma, it was lime green and my eyes looked like something from a horror movie as I walked up the High St towards the car park. I just get a puff nowadays. I do hope your little lad gets the all clear.
banned#7
Maybe you should have given yourself more time?

Bit strange you're blaming the whole NHS for you're inability to set a bit more time aside.

Maybe I should blame ALL plumbers because my bathroom tap leaks?
banned#8
slamdunkin;8573083
So you blame the hospital staff because you had to leave and pick up your other kids that you hadn't made provision for?

+1

unreal that someone with a 9:30 appointment expects to be seen and out of there by 11:15

its a NATIONAL health service

go private if you dont like it! :whistling:
[mod]#9
DLM
I and my fella pay lot's of NI therefore we do pay.

NHS is badly run.

Hopefully this month he has his op.

He has waited 5 month's for it and has had about 10 appointments about it :x


...but not everyone does pay and NI contributions are made for many, many things.

Why so many appointments?! Are they necessary or are they just prolonging?
#10
DLM;8573096
I and my fella pay lot's of NI therefore we do pay.

NHS is badly run.

Hopefully this month he has his op
He has waited 5 month's for it and has had about 10 appointments about it :x

Cant comment on individual circumstances but do you remember this
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLabourParty1900#p/u/48/6AXAjuSsBrI
banned#11
magicjay1986
...but not everyone does pay and NI contributions are made for many, many things.

Why so many appointments?! Are they necessary or are they just prolonging?


God knows.

They just tell him the same thing over and over again :roll:

Tomorrow had better be his pre-op appointment :-D
#12
My Mum is a Consultant for the NHS and they are MASSIVELY overstretched. They bring in foreign doctors who don't speak a word of English and pay them more than the doctors here. She used to work in Psychiatric care and would have 50-60 FAMILIES on her books at a time. She'd often be out until midnight with the police looking for people who had been mistakenly discharged from hospital and were a danger to themselves and the public. She was promoted 5 years ago to the top grade but has been working for the salary she was on before that because they are inept and can't sort it out. If it's not sorted within the next 4 years when she retires, she misses out on £50k of pension that she would get as a top whack Consultant, but do you see her saying "everyone who works in HR is useless" and kicking up a fuss?
I think it's pretty cheeky to have a go at people who work hard and are just following orders from above. I should imagine you were offered an appointment at 9.30 yet the optician had to see 3 people before you and wasn't given enough time to see everyone. If you don't like it, perhaps think about going private!
banned#13
WoolyM
Cant comment on individual circumstances but do you remember this
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLabourParty1900#p/u/48/6AXAjuSsBrI


Not got time to watch it at the moment but will do :thumbsup:
[mod]#14
DLM
God knows.

They just tell him the same thing over and over again :roll:

Tomorrow had better be his pre-op appointment :-D


That is absurd!! I have never had a bad experience on NHS. My work pays for me to go private but I still use the NHS. If I needed an emergency OP I would take advantage of my private care.

Fingers crossed your other halfs situation is sorted soon!
banned#15
If everybody needed precisely 15 mins to be treated things would run a lot smoother
but life isn't like that
banned#16
magicjay1986
That is absurd!! I have never had a bad experience on NHS. My work pays for me to go private but I still use the NHS. If I needed an emergency OP I would take advantage of my private care.

Fingers crossed your other halfs situation is sorted soon!


The waiting and all the time he has had to have off work is crazy.

Finger's crossed here too :thumbsup:
#17
Interesting-I wonder what they would have said if you were half an hour late for the appointment. NHS works on very different standards to private enterprises-they expect you to be on time. My doctor makes a note in my notes if I am late but he is always at least half an hour late but does not make any notes when he is or apologises for the delay.

A good rule of thumb is when ever you go for a procedure at a hospital make arrangements to have a whole day free and take plenty of money for the parking meter!
#18
slamdunkin
So you blame the hospital staff because you had to leave and pick up your other kids that you hadn't made provision for?


+1
OP ought to be thankful that they live in the UK and dont have to pay for it all. Maybe OP had better look into going private next time.. You'll even get a cuppa and a biccy but somehow i get the feeling that the cuppa will be a) too weak b) too strong c) not PG Tips
#19
The NHS is a very poor now. Appointment times are a joke are rarely adhered to if at all. I would go private, if they would refund me the NI that I already pay to the NHS. Stupid that you are forced into paying for healthcare whether you need it or not. NHS is seriously flawed but no-one want to tackle the system,
banned#20
BendyBadger
The NHS is a very poor now. Appointment times are a joke are rarely adhered to if at all. I would go private, if they would refund me the NI that I already pay to the NHS. Stupid that you are forced into paying for healthcare whether you need it or not. NHS is seriously flawed but no-one want to tackle the system,


Don't pay NI then. Go and live in another country.
[mod]#21
BendyBadger
The NHS is a very poor now. Appointment times are a joke are rarely adhered to if at all. I would go private, if they would refund me the NI that I already pay to the NHS. Stupid that you are forced into paying for healthcare whether you need it or not. NHS is seriously flawed but no-one want to tackle the system,


...if you do not make contributions and fall out of work you may not be entitled to the following:

Contribution-based Jobseeker's Allowance (Class 1 National Insurance contributions only)
Incapacity Benefit (if you can't work for long periods due to illness or injury)
Contribution-based Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
State Pension
Additional State Pension (Class 1 National Insurance contributions only)
Widowed Parents' Allowance
Bereavement Allowance
Bereavement Payment

Your NI payments do not just go towards the NHS.
#22
BendyBadger
The NHS is a very poor now. Appointment times are a joke are rarely adhered to if at all. I would go private, if they would refund me the NI that I already pay to the NHS. Stupid that you are forced into paying for healthcare whether you need it or not. NHS is seriously flawed but no-one want to tackle the system,


what a complete idiot
#23
BendyBadger
The NHS is a very poor now. Appointment times are a joke are rarely adhered to if at all. I would go private, if they would refund me the NI that I already pay to the NHS. Stupid that you are forced into paying for healthcare whether you need it or not. NHS is seriously flawed but no-one want to tackle the system,


Personally, I disagree that it's stupid. How many people would die or suffer simply because they couldn't afford to pay for a serious illness that suddenly cropped up ? Yes, if health care was made private then people should pay into a monthly private policy, but in a lot of cases that wouldn't happen as poorer families would be choosing food and clothing and hoping that they didn't become ill. I think that taking contributions directly at source and then giving health care when it's needed, without the stress of worrying about cost, is much easier.

Yes, certain things within the NHS need addressing, but I don't think scrapping it is the answer
[mod][Moderator] 1 Like #24
BendyBadger
The NHS is a very poor now. Appointment times are a joke are rarely adhered to if at all. I would go private, if they would refund me the NI that I already pay to the NHS. Stupid that you are forced into paying for healthcare whether you need it or not. NHS is seriously flawed but no-one want to tackle the system,


Having worked in the NHS for over 22 years as a frontline nurse, I would have to disagree with you, we have the best free healthcare system in the world, for all those whingers who complain about the NHS, go private, that would leave more time for the hardworking staff members to provide on the whole excellent service to the rest. Appts run over, god forbid last time my son saw his specialist for his ongoing serious illness, his appt took over an hour, 30 mins had been allocated, but since all those attending the clinic were there for the same problm, they didn't moan, they realised next time that it could very well be them needing extra time.
#25
If the option was not to pay NI then I wuld but unfortunately we do not have to option of an opt-out. I know not all of my NI contribution goes to the NHS in the same way all my road tax does not go into roads. It would be a ideal to have a say in where your money actually goes but we are far away fom ideals.

The NHS is flawed and the sooner we admit that then the sooner we can go about fixing healthcare issues.
#26
wishihadadonkey
Having worked in the NHS for over 22 years as a frontline nurse, I would have to disagree with you, we have the best free healthcare system in the world, for all those whingers who complain about the NHS, go private, that would leave more time for the hardworking staff members to provide on the whole excellent service to the rest. Appts run over, god forbid last time my son saw his specialist for his ongoing serious illness, his appt took over an hour, 30 mins had been allocated, but since all those attending the clinic were there for the same problm, they didn't moan, they realised next time that it could very well be them needing extra time.


here here... well said and have some rep for being a hard working Nurse. :thumbsup:
#27
Charlie&Lola

Yes, certain things within the NHS need addressing, but I don't think scrapping it is the answer


I agree but reforms must be made in some way
[mod]#28
BendyBadger
If the option was not to pay NI then I wuld but unfortunately we do not have to option of an opt-out. I know not all of my NI contribution goes to the NHS in the same way all my road tax does not go into roads. It would be a ideal to have a say in where your money actually goes but we are far away fom ideals.

The NHS is flawed and the sooner we admit that then the sooner we can go about fixing healthcare issues.


The NHS is flawed?! Haha. That is hilarious.

The police take 30 minutes to get to me. Our policing is flawed.
#29
magicjay1986
Be thankful you didnt have to pay.


I have paid via my taxes and NI fyi! what a daft comment

slamdunkin
So you blame the hospital staff because you had to leave and pick up your other kids that you hadn't made provision for?


I had to leave because the clinic was running over an hour later, had they been on time it would not have been an issue, you dont have kids do you, fyi I pretty much raise the kids just me and hubby as family are not interested, which is why the appointment was made for this time, to leave plenty of time, but an hour later...........seriously:x why squeeze so many people in if they dont have the time? it just leads to people feeling like the NHS is a mess, we had already waited 1 yr to get the appointment
#30
tracyhay
fyi I pretty much raise the kids just me and hubby as family are not interested


Umm... Your point being? If YOU have children, they're YOUR responsibility!
[mod]#31
tracyhay
I have paid via my taxes and NI fyi! what a daft comment



I had to leave because the clinic was running over an hour later, had they been on time it would not have been an issue, you dont have kids do you, fyi I pretty much raise the kids just me and hubby as family are not interested, which is why the appointment was made for this time, to leave plenty of time, but an hour later...........seriously:x


You have moaned about the NHS. Your moan should be directed at the particular practice you visited. What makes you think every practice is run as yours is?!
#32
magicjay1986
The NHS is flawed?! Haha. That is hilarious.

The police take 30 minutes to get to me. Our policing is flawed.

Yep, policing is flawed too. Why do people stick up for the NHS so much? It is not free healthcare as some describe it because most people will pay for it in some way.

I too worked for the NHS for 10 years and after seeing what a state it was in decided to get out of it. Money squandered, unobtainable targets, fixing of performance results and the list could go on.

I still use the NHS but there is much to be improved upon and it is not the same bastion of healthcare that it was before.
[mod][Moderator]#33
tracyhay
I have paid via my taxes and NI fyi! what a daft comment



I had to leave because the clinic was running over an hour later, had they been on time it would not have been an issue, you dont have kids do you, fyi I pretty much raise the kids just me and hubby as family are not interested, which is why the appointment was made for this time, to leave plenty of time, but an hour later...........seriously:x


Clinics over run, your lo could be the cause of one running over in future, I'm sure any patient who caused your inconvenience today will be grateful for your understanding:whistling:
banned#34
BendyBadger;8573268
If the option was not to pay NI then I wuld but unfortunately we do not have to option of an opt-out. I know not all of my NI contribution goes to the NHS in the same way all my road tax does not go into roads. It would be a ideal to have a say in where your money actually goes but we are far away fom ideals.

The NHS is flawed and the sooner we admit that then the sooner we can go about fixing healthcare issues.

you do realise NI is mainly used for paying pensions. :whistling:

Income tax generally pays for the social security budget and its the business taxes that generally covers everything else like NHS, defence etc

So, dont buy any petrol or do any banking and then you wont be paying taxes for the NHS lol

TBH, your attitude stinks and would hope that you never get a serious illness and have to depend on the NHS for treatment
banned#35
i pay NI and masses ans masses of tax and i dont moan, im happy to pay because i think the service is run well considering, the vic is a great hospital i think its gone down abit since doubling in size but it is still very good.

the problem with the nhs is that the country is full of sad weak stupid people that cost it millions because they go to the doctors for nothing or alcoholics, smackheads, fat people and so on that are the way they are due to their own fault think they should get treartment. i dont go doctors or hospital and never will i have problems most of which are because i have abused my body over the years my choice and my fault i dont deserve help with it and wont ever try and get help.
banned#36
BendyBadger
If the option was not to pay NI then I wuld but unfortunately we do not have to option of an opt-out. I know not all of my NI contribution goes to the NHS in the same way all my road tax does not go into roads. It would be a ideal to have a say in where your money actually goes but we are far away fom ideals.

The NHS is flawed and the sooner we admit that then the sooner we can go about fixing healthcare issues.


yes that would improve things, letting the people choose where the money is spent

moron:thumbsup:
[mod]#37
BendyBadger
Yep, policing is flawed too. Why do people stick up for the NHS so much? It is not free healthcare as some describe it because most people will pay for it in some way.

I too worked for the NHS for 10 years and after seeing what a state it was in decided to get out of it. Money squandered, unobtainable targets, fixing of performance results and the list could go on.

I still use the NHS but there is much to be improved upon and it is not the same bastion of healthcare that it was before.


Your list of problems with the NHS can be mentioned in most large organisations.

You seem to have many problems but not enough solutions.
banned#38
churchill
i pay NI and masses ans masses of tax and i dont moan, im happy to pay because i think the service is run well considering, the vic is a great hospital i think its gone down abit since doubling in size but it is still very good.

the problem with the nhs is that the country is full of sad weak stupid people that cost it millions because they go to the doctors for nothing or alcoholics, smackheads, fat people and so on that are the way they are due to their own fault think they should get treartment. i dont go doctors or hospital and never will i have problems most of which are because i have abused my body over the years my choice and my fault i dont deserve help with it and wont ever try and get help.


But you'll happily use the NHS for your unnecessary back pain?
banned#39
tracyhay
I have paid via my taxes and NI fyi! what a daft comment



I had to leave because the clinic was running over an hour later, had they been on time it would not have been an issue, you don't have kids do you, fyi I pretty much raise the kids just me and hubby as family are not interested, which is why the appointment was made for this time, to leave plenty of time, but an hour later...........seriously:x why squeeze so many people in if they don't have the time? it just leads to people feeling like the NHS is a mess


I do have kids...But unlike your good self when going to hospital we have the foresight to make contingency plans...I personally think you should be billed for the time you have now wasted and you should also feel ashamed of yourself as someone who would have appreciated the appointment could have had your waisted slot....just think how long you would have to wait for appointments if everyone was like you.
#40
baffledsalmon
Umm... Your point being? If YOU have children, they're YOUR responsibility!


my point being I cannot possibly be in 2 places at once, the appointment should have taken 30 mins I gave it 1hr30mins and still didnt get seen, or should I have kept the girls out of nursery and brought them with me so I could spend all day there and everyone could listen to 3 screaming fed up kids???? be practical, to wishihadadonkey part of my point is that they cram in too many appointments and not giving the time that is needed to each child, shame for the staff and those kept waiting, would be nice if the receptionist had been a bit less stroppy though

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