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A request for all those on Anti-depressants who have had to go cold turkey to get off them

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Hiya all, I'm currently pregnant with my 2nd baby and have had to go cold turkey to get off my anti-depressants. My psychiatrist has told me that there's no liquid form and would like to know if anyo… Read More
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
Hiya all,
I'm currently pregnant with my 2nd baby and have had to go cold turkey to get off my anti-depressants. My psychiatrist has told me that there's no liquid form and would like to know if anyone else has been made to do the same? I'm going to see a solicitor and lodge an official complaint. I checked and they do a liquid form of the tablet so wouldn't have had to be so ill. He's done it to me before on other medication. My mom's friend also see's him and she had a problem with this support worker and he's making her complain in front of the support worker- basically intimidating her when her nerves are shot to pieces anyway.

So please get in touch and let me know- positive and negative stories about their psychiatrists. Mine has messed me about too much and he thinks he's untouchable. And before anyone says anything, I don't want compensation, I want him to be punished for what he's put me through. I have a young son, and he doesn't need a suicidal mother crying all the time!! If I was a drug taker I would have been given methadone etc but he's literally just sent me packing, ignored phone calls from myself and my GP and my GP's letters. I don't think those with genuine mental health problems should be treated like this so would especially like to hear from anyone who goes to Hallam Street Hospital in Birmingham. (Private messages if you're not comfortable in posting on here)
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1 Like #1
I think it is time to maybe find another psychiatrist as yours sounds terrible! My daughter is at uni training to be 1 and she gets annoyed daily by the attitudes of her fellow students. They are there for the money and not the want to learn and fix people. I will ask her tomorrow for her opinion for you and hope in the mean time that you have people who you can trust close by. Your depression is your business and it is extremely brave of you to openly tell everyone here about your problem, hope you are prepared for the idiots (I hope you don't get them) and I hope everyone replying remembers this is a public forum.
#2
Soziberry
I think it is time to maybe find another psychiatrist as yours sounds terrible! My daughter is at uni training to be 1 and she gets annoyed daily by the attitudes of her fellow students. They are there for the money and not the want to learn and fix people. I will ask her tomorrow for her opinion for you and hope in the mean time that you have people who you can trust close by. Your depression is your business and it is extremely brave of you to openly tell everyone here about your problem, hope you are prepared for the idiots (I hope you don't get them) and I hope everyone replying remembers this is a public forum.


Lol. I'm ready for the small minded idiots. I've had a lot of carp happen and I was put on anti-depressants because of this, not because "my boyfriend dumped me" etc. I would state everything but people will say I'm attention seeking.

Anyway, It's nice to hear your daughter's going to be a psychiatrist- please can she come treat me! lol. My mom saw this lovely young asian psychiatrist just out of UNI and he was so helpful to her.

Also, changing psychiatrists isn't that easy, I have to write and complain and say that I want to change, the secretary for the psychiatrist was so rude and unhelpful so I'm going to complain about her too. They're all there for the money instead of helping others and it's very rare to see those who want to help others. If they went through it maybe they'd be more sympathetic. My mom saw someone (think it was a councillor) who had injected himself with adrenaline and made himself sit still so he could experience a panic attack and be able to help his patients more, my mom said he was fantastic. Maybe they should all be made to experience it in some way or another and maybe they'd be more sympathetic!!
#3
I say name and shame him for treating you in this way. Also if he is reported officially that will be on his record forever. The difference here with other medical professionals is that they expect a high rate of suicides and so he is in a position to just dismiss your suffering without regard of final consequences. Its kind of sinister, almost like he is getting off on this little power trip. Don't be a lab rat statistic. You deserve better than that and so do your family your kids etc. From what you have said about him he sounds very arrogant and doesn't give a damn about your suffering. I did read your last post that you made. I think its time you got more people involved. I would go to the citizens advice bureau and see if you have any help there from a legal point of view of what you are entitled to not money but proper medical care during your pregnancy. A second opinion would be great too. Can you afford to get health care cover and try a private doctor just to see you through this pregnancy and help you? i can tell you are really distressed and its not helping your baby.
#4
kaits
I say name and shame him for treating you in this way. Also if he is reported officially that will be on his record forever. The difference here with other medical professionals is that they expect a high rate of suicides and so he is in a position to just dismiss your suffering without regard of final consequences. Its kind of sinister, almost like he is getting off on this little power trip. Don't be a lab rat statistic. You deserve better than that and so do your family your kids etc. From what you have said about him he sounds very arrogant and doesn't give a damn about your suffering. I did read your last post that you made. I think its time you got more people involved. I would go to the citizens advice bureau and see if you have any help there from a legal point of view of what you are entitled to not money but proper medical care during your pregnancy. A second opinion would be great too. Can you afford to get health care cover and try a private doctor just to see you through this pregnancy and help you? i can tell you are really distressed and its not helping your baby.


To be honest I can't afford private health care, I'm on incap benefit and my partner's an engineer earning £1000 a month, sounds a lot but after £400 for rent alone it's virtually all gone on bills!!

Thing is, I'm depressed but not the sort to slit my wrists, I suffer majorly with anxiety, and with my depression I don't take care of myself, I struggle with housework and just want to sleep all the time, but coming off these tablets I've wanted to kill myself. Ibegged my mom to take me to hospital to sedate me whilst coming off the tablets. I used to be suicidal with thing of having the thoughts everyday but there was always a reason for not commiting suicide- like taking pills would make me vomit (have a huge phobia) It would hurt if I slit my wrists. Ridiculous I know!

He is one of those doctors who if you're with a male will talk to him about your feelings! He put me on these tablets Venlafaxine, which have a half life of about 5 hours, so after that time you start to feel withdrawal symptoms (hence feeling ridiculously tired all the time) and he refused to change me until my mom phoned up and demanded that he did. He didn't like it because a) a female stood upto him and b) he was forced to change them. I'm going to try and get a solicitor, to be honest I want him to be fired. That's my goal. It sounds horrible I know, but my son's had to suffer seeing me so ill and my baby has had to suffer the effects in the womb. Why should he be allowed to work and be a sort of puppeteer over his patients, when he is sort of sadistic.
I may have mental health problems but I'm not stupid and I'm not mentally unstable (mad sometimes but not all the time :whistling:) I'm really going to fight this one. He's f'd things up with my withdrawal twice (with my son when I had to withdraw then) and now, and the way he's bullied my mom's friend. I really want to speak to his other patients but I know it's against the data protection act so it's bugging me that I can't find others too lol.
#5
keep looking plus more people will message you. People are frightened to talk about their personal stuff like this because of the stigma attached to mental illness. I am glad you are going to get some legal advice. How about using a newspaper reporter too because isn't it mental health week? they will lap up stories like this and they can draw attention to your case. More people will come forward then. Also see if you can get a social worker involved she could mediate possibly. One other thing i wanted to ask was do you take any vitamins? sometimes vitamins have toxicity that causes even more mental problems. People take them as supplements without realising some of them actually cause more harm than good. For instance : St John's wort
1 Like #6
I can't say I have had to go cold turkey from anti depressants, for the simple fact I never took the ones I was given in the first place. The side affects freaked me out even more, and I just point blank refused to take them. Man I know there is so much stigma attatched to mental health issues, and that blows chunks big time, esspecialy when you consider that at least 25% of the population suffer with some sort of mental health issue, and tbh they are the people who have been to seek help, what about all of those who never go to the doctors?

Deffinetly log a complaint about him, and his medical secetary, put it into the practice they work from, and the local health authority. I hate people like him, who have no regard for their patients, does my head in big time.

I know all about the sleeping lots, the suicidal thoughts, the anxiety, I suffer with them a hell of alot, and it is so so difficult, part of mine is down to a thyroid condition, the other part is down to my ex, who I have found out cheated on me with at least 5 different women (I knew about 3 of them when I left him, more keep on coming out of the woodwork now)

I really do hope you get the medication to help you, and all so get somthing done about the psychiatrist. And I wish you lots of luck for the future :)
1 Like #7
I really really feel for you. I have been taking ant-depressants for 15 years (now at a low dose) as every time I came off them I was ill again. I don't think I'll ever be able to stop them. With them I am a capable, hardworking professional. Without them I cannot cope and spend every moment wanting to die. You need to see someone else, who has some degree of understanding. The one you see now sounds awful.
Do you have another hospital nearby? If so, ask your GP to send you there. No-one should have to cope with depression without treatment, ever.
1 Like #8
I Dont Get Depressed,dont Know Why,i Just Get Angry When Things Dont Go Right(now And Again) Im Not A Public Type Person And Have Total Shyness In Crowds And Im Not A Very Cleaver Chap When It Comes To People And Confrontation,interviews
What I Say On This Cannot Be Acted Upon As I Have Never Been In This Situation I Just Wish I Could Bottle Up My Happy Go Lucky Juice And Give It To You All When Other People Hurt So Do I.
#9
I can't really say much other than if you make a formal complaint and address it to the right people the case should be investigated at least, if other people do the same then some action should be taken against the psychiatrist. Good luck.
#10
Thank you all for your support. Definitely going to get a solicitor involved, I may end up having to do fund raising if I can't afford (but if a muslim teacher can get help then I'm pretty sure I should be entitled to it as teachers earn loads! I tried the calculator last night and it said I was entitled but I just estimated the figures so not so good :S)

Anyway, yeah I feel as though this is something to draw attention to. I had to keep asking to be seen by someone to give me some therapy as well as going to my 5 minute appointment which he hardly listened to me. He hardly speaks to me in there, and in all honesty, how many of you have gone in and gone "yeah I'm fine etc etc" only to leave and still be the same suicidal person as when you go in?

Also, I'm not going to let people judge me who haven't suffered yet- their time will come when they break down and realise just what people have been through who they have ridiculed. My father in law to be used to never believe me but when his handicapped daughter sadly died, although he didn't go down hill you can see it affected him terribly, and he now has a lot more respect for me. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it comes to something when something so tragic has to happen for him to believe me. My own uncle didn't believe me and claimed that I was lazy and couldn't be bothered to work. Like i've said I wanted to be a criminal psychologist, I wanted to stay a size 10 instead of the size 26 that I am now!! I was so out going and was always going to rock gigs so to suddenly suffer panic attacks devastated me just like it's done to millions of others. The thing with many psychiatrists is that they're there for the high wage and not to help others. I really am grateful to the few who are genuinely trying to help others, and I'm hoping I can see one of them soon!! (I've got to make an official complaint and until they've read it and made a decision, I cannot see another psychiatrist. Either the receptionist is lying or they've got a flawed system.)
#11
raptorcigs;4706016
I Dont Get Depressed,dont Know Why,i Just Get Angry When Things Dont Go Right(now And Again) Im Not A Public Type Person And Have Total Shyness In Crowds And Im Not A Very Cleaver Chap When It Comes To People And Confrontation,interviews
What I Say On This Cannot Be Acted Upon As I Have Never Been In This Situation I Just Wish I Could Bottle Up My Happy Go Lucky Juice And Give It To You All When Other People Hurt So Do I.

Raptorcigs that was so sweet of you , it made me smile :)

I hope that more people read these posts and consider giving a little input so that this thread can be kept alive.
#12
kaits
Raptorcigs that was so sweet of you , it made me smile :)

I hope that more people read these posts and consider giving a little input so that this thread can be kept alive.


Thank you. I'm tempted to start wearing a bandage on my head because of people can't see it's there they don't believe it!! A lot of those suffering from depression tend to do the "I'm fine" act and people don't see it's there. I've read somewhere that depression is supposed to affect really intelligent people, not sure if it's true?!
#13
midjet666;4706472
Thank you. I'm tempted to start wearing a bandage on my head because of people can't see it's there they don't believe it!! A lot of those suffering from depression tend to do the "I'm fine" act and people don't see it's there. I've read somewhere that depression is supposed to affect really intelligent people, not sure if it's true?!

Hey Midjet666 :) sorry i had to cut out last night i was falling asleep, I'll drop you an email later :)
Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Isaac Newton, Franz Kafka come to mind but there are probably loads more.
#14
I have a young son, and he doesn't need a suicidal mother crying all the time!!


Jesus, that's really upsetting to read. Whatever the outcome of this situation, I sincerely hope things get better for you. Do they know what the cause of the depression is? Chemical imbalance, stress, unresolved issues, any of that sort of thing? And do you feel you've gotten better since you started seeing this psychiatrist? Drop me a PM with a MSN address in it if you like, if you can spare the time, I'd like to try and help you talk the problems out.
#15
i was on them for 6 months and in the end i just stopped takening them . the side affects were really bad for week but after that i slowly got back to my happy self x
#16
dxx
Jesus, that's really upsetting to read. Whatever the outcome of this situation, I sincerely hope things get better for you. Do they know what the cause of the depression is? Chemical imbalance, stress, unresolved issues, any of that sort of thing? And do you feel you've gotten better since you started seeing this psychiatrist? Drop me a PM with a MSN address in it if you like, if you can spare the time, I'd like to try and help you talk the problems out.


Hiya,
To be honest they haven't actually said what they think is causing it, I had the test for a brain tumour where they do the can you put your leg this way etc but that was an incapacity benefit test not from the doctors etc.

My mom and a lot of others in my family suffer with different forms of depression and anxiety, my second cousin is an alcoholic and manic depressive, he's been ridiculously let down by the system. He wouldn't be an alcoholic was it not for the depression.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the cause of my depression is what's happened in my life, I had cancer when I was 14 and my dad decided to leave before my treatment ended so it really messed me up. Things happened before and after that too but those are the two main things in my life. I did psychology for a year at college and they do a test as part of one of the psychologists and if you had something over 10 then you were bound to be depressed or something,and I scored nearly 100!! And things have happened since then too lol. Everyone in my class was gobsmacked but I've always been depressed for as long as i can remember.

And thankfully the crying has only lasted about 5 days, touch wood it's going off now. I have to be careful and not watch anything sad lol. my family were brilliant and have really looked after me, and my son kept coming up to me and loving me up. He's actually sat here now as Im typing this watching mister maker!!
#17
Kitten13;4705960
what about all of those who never go to the doctors?


That's a good question.
Maybe if we keep this thread going more people reading this might come in and share their experiences of how they coped without any medical intervention.

I hope that everyone has a good day today. I am off out to get some air and enjoy a bit of sunlight. It looks like its going to be a lovely day. :)
#18
kaits
That's a good question.
Maybe if we keep this thread going more people reading this might come in and share their experiences of how they coped without any medical intervention.

I hope that everyone has a good day today. I am off out to get some air and enjoy a bit of sunlight. It looks like its going to be a lovely day. :)


Have a nice day Kaits, I feel like going back to sleep, I had about 3 hours sleep last night!!

I think actually going on medication has ruined my life more than if they would have sent me for intense therapy to help me out. It's their quick fix solution and it means the problem isn't fixed and you're just drugged up until you finally realise/get sick of being on tablets and decide to confront the problem yourself.
#19
mumbojumbo
Crikey! I can't believe you've got so much energy to vent your spleen against your doctor in this way! Great to see you can do so much without the anti-depressants. :thumbsup:


Thanks for the positive comments... when it comes to seeing your son upset by the change his mother's health and the affects it may have had on my unborn baby then you'd have the same anger too.
#20
I don't quite understand the relevance of there being a liquid form of the medication or otherwise - can you explain?
#21
moob
I don't quite understand the relevance of there being a liquid form of the medication or otherwise - can you explain?


I was on a 10mg tablet which could only be broken in half, even still those halves could be 6mg and 4mg meaning I'm on an unstable dose and messing up the withdrawal effect.
If I had been put on the medicine, in a dosing syringe I could have taken an exact amount which may have been off very slightly but no where near as much as 0.02mg. So I could have lowered the dose accordingly and help to withdraw easier, without any symptoms or as little as possible and without putting my body through an extremely dangerous withdrawal, especially as I'm pregnant.
#22
midjet666
I was on a 10mg tablet which could only be broken in half, even still those halves could be 6mg and 4mg meaning I'm on an unstable dose and messing up the withdrawal effect.
If I had been put on the medicine, in a dosing syringe I could have taken an exact amount which may have been off very slightly but no where near as much as 0.02mg. So I could have lowered the dose accordingly and help to withdraw easier, without any symptoms or as little as possible and without putting my body through an extremely dangerous withdrawal, especially as I'm pregnant.


Sounds like you're on Diazepam?

I used to work in Pharmacy, and I can say with reasonable confidence, that the difference in halving a tablet are negligible and wouldn't significantly affect your ability to withdraw from the drug. I wouldn't say are grounds for making a formal complaint to be honest. Perhaps there are other factors regarding your Psychiatrist's behaviour and lack of professionalism that we haven't been told.

Either way, you should be able to get another referral from your GP to get another practitioner to assist you here.

Not meaning to come across unsympathetic, but were you not advised to avoid conceiving whilst undergoing this treatment?
#23
moob
Sounds like you're on Diazepam?

I used to work in Pharmacy, and I can say with reasonable confidence, that the difference in halving a tablet are negligible and wouldn't significantly affect your ability to withdraw from the drug. I wouldn't say are grounds for making a formal complaint to be honest. Perhaps there are other factors regarding your Psychiatrist's behaviour and lack of professionalism that we haven't been told.

Either way, you should be able to get another referral from your GP to get another practitioner to assist you here.

Not meaning to come across unsympathetic, but were you not advised to avoid conceiving whilst undergoing this treatment?



I am on cipralex and with due respect, until you've taken the tablet yourself, you do not know how the feeling on withdrawal is, if I forgot to take it, a few hours later I would start to have withdrawal symptoms.
So the fact that my psychiatrist has left me to withdraw by going cold turkey whilst i'm pregnant has nothing for me to complain about? Druggies and criminals complain about less so I don't see why I shouldn't complain about my mental health being seriously affected because of my psychiatrists negligence.

Also, I can't get a referral from my GP as I'm still classed as being under my psychiatrists care although he's ignoring phone calls and letters from both myself and my GP.
Also, no I wasn't advised no to conceive whilst undergoing treatment, I suffer from migraines too and was given a special drug and was told not to conceive whilst taking that so I never took it, but there's such things as accidents, and I don't believe in abortion unless in certain circumstances personal to the lady, but for me it's a definite no.
#24
I'll be back online later.
banned#25
mumbojumbo
Crikey! I can't believe you've got so much energy to vent your spleen against your doctor in this way! Great to see you can do so much without the anti-depressants. :thumbsup:


yes, rather shocked too, although i would be trying to spend my time and energy in sorting out the real issues here, most have had a real bad yime in life, one thing or another, or loads, maybe put your energu into learning how to move on from them
#26
psychiatrist being cautious, antideppresents esp the old school variety of drugs (tricylciics) can affect the fetus.

different drugs affect the fetus/developing baby at different stages of its development

as a matter of safety current medicinal teachings state that the expectant mother should be tapered off them towards the end of her final trimester, and be withdrawn from them 2-3 weeks before due date.

you can always go back on them, once you have had your baby.

in severe cases of depression, mothers can continue taking anti-depressents as a maintenence dose, but docters and health experts judge each patient on a case by case basis

on this matter i agree with your psychiatrist
banned#27
What you doing getting pregnant while depressed? My Mum had a break down when I was 8/9 when my dad left she ended up smacking me and my brother nightly because we needed the toilet in the night with slippers, wooden spoons...etc. we ended up urinating in the corner of the room we were so scared to go to toilet at night. Really not a good idea if you ask me.

p.s. just saying what I'm thinking
#28
midjet666
I am on cipralex and with due respect, until you've taken the tablet yourself, you do not know how the feeling on withdrawal is, if I forgot to take it, a few hours later I would start to have withdrawal symptoms.
So the fact that my psychiatrist has left me to withdraw by going cold turkey whilst i'm pregnant has nothing for me to complain about? Druggies and criminals complain about less so I don't see why I shouldn't complain about my mental health being seriously affected because of my psychiatrists negligence.

Also, I can't get a referral from my GP as I'm still classed as being under my psychiatrists care although he's ignoring phone calls and letters from both myself and my GP.
Also, no I wasn't advised no to conceive whilst undergoing treatment, I suffer from migraines too and was given a special drug and was told not to conceive whilst taking that so I never took it, but there's such things as accidents, and I don't believe in abortion unless in certain circumstances personal to the lady, but for me it's a definite no.


From what I've read, you want this man's job because you feel he's a chauvinist, and is insensitive to your needs. I think that's taking it a bit far, personally. You also claim the majority of people in the same profession are only there for the money - I don't think that's a fair statement really.

You claim he's being negligent, but from what info you've provided, and baring in mind, there's always two sides to every story, he's simply refused to prescribe you with a liquid version of your medication, instead of you halving the tablets to reduce the dose.

I have sympathy for your condition however, and still maintain that you should write that letter and request another opinion. Like you've said he's ignored these in the past, so perhaps you should enquire with the BMA about his actions and ask them to intervene.

I would say however, that this is perhaps not the best place to discuss such sensitive matters.
#29
Maybe if there is a liquid form you try order online somewhere.
Yeh I've been depressed at times,mainly over life events,maybe not depressed so much but just like upset over something happening. I have heard from people meds are hard to come off so never took any despite being offered by GP.... they sometimes find it easier to send you away with a prescription for something.

It does cross my mind why you didn't come off whatever you taking before getting pregnant,is the baby not planned or something.
#30
Mum2Connor&Cerys
Maybe if there is a liquid form you try order online somewhere.


You can't buy prescription only medicine online.
#31
No the baby wasn't planned it was an accident. My psychiatrist gave me 3 weeks to come off the tablets- take one every other day for a week, take one every 3rd day for 2 weeks then stop completely. This is how he told me stop the tablets.

I am telling you all how my psychiatrist have been, I am not asking what you think of my life so to be honest you can all keep your negatives views about my life to yourself. I am asking for people to give positive and negative experiences that people have had whilst visiting their psychiatrist. I want to know if mine is the only one being this way or if it's a common thing and from what I've received message wise, It's quite a common thing.

Also the person who said about their mother smacking them etc whilst depressed, why haven't you gone to the police and reported her for negligence if that's what happened? I wouldn't harm my son in anyway, he's loved so dearly and cared for better than you can imagine. He plays up like most 3 year olds with his tantrums but touch wood it's quite rare. He's got the best manners in his nursery and everyone comments on what a well educated and happy little boy he is. I would never lay a finger on my son, so for you to have such negative views just because I suffer depression shows that you're the one with the problem- not me.

Sassie, I have seen many psychologists and councillors trying to get help to move on from my past- after being put on tablets. I'm struggling to move on and need to have a lot of help which I'm currently getting.

adam2116, my depression wasn't severe, it was a side effect of going cold turkey, as was head tremors, feeling nauseous, getting the shakes etc. It was like a proper druggie going cold turkey, I'm still suffering from head tremors and feeling nauseous now, thankfully I have a laptop so I can lie down and type. Also, I'm just wondering why you agree with my psychiatrist to make me withdraw in such a dangerous way?

Moob- to say that I want this man's job is ridiculous and laughable! Yes I could his job but I wouldn't want to do it personally. He hasn't done his job properly, he has left me to withdraw dangerously and hasn't monitored me, he has ignored any phonecalls or letters written by myself and my GP, for all he cares I could have killed myself. He didn't refuse to prescribe the liquid form, he lied and told me there wasn't a medicine form. He has a mimm's book like every doctor- one glance in there would have told him that there's a medicine form. He only had to admit he wasn't sure but every time I've wanted to withdraw he claims there isn't a medicine form on about 3 different tablets (including this one). The fact that he hasn't bothered to check and has ignored me when I've asked for more help is being negligent. If you're in a hospital and you ask for help and they ignore you, you say it's negligent. I was at his practice inHallam Street Hospital and told him I couldn't cope with withdrawal and begged for medicine tohelp withdraw, he said there wasn't any. Like I said, he could have admitted he didn't know and double checked but he didn't bother.

Yes I agree it's not a place to discuss sensitive issues but why should they be brushed under the carpet? I have been unfairly treated by him many times and it's time for him to realise he cannot play with people's lives. He has put many people on medication, and to leave them on them without carefully monitoring them is dangerous. The majority of them have a side effect of severe depression. On wikipedia, the dangers of withdrawal is- "unbearable withdrawal symptoms from the total absence, causing tremendous stress on heart and blood vessels and in a worst case scenario possible stroke or heart failure."
#32
OK, wee bit confused here...

In your last post you said:

to say that I want this man's job is ridiculous and laughable! Yes I could his job but I wouldn't want to do it personally.


But, previously, you said:

I want him to be punished for what he's put me through.


I'm going to try and get a solicitor, to be honest I want him to be fired. That's my goal.


Moving onto how he told you to come off your pills, you said:

No the baby wasn't planned it was an accident. My psychiatrist gave me 3 weeks to come off the tablets- take one every other day for a week, take one every 3rd day for 2 weeks then stop completely. This is how he told me stop the tablets.


Then you said this, when it is a very common method of getting people off anti-depressants - in fact, it's the recognised way...

He hasn't done his job properly, he has left me to withdraw dangerously and hasn't monitored me


Not meaning to be offensive towards you, but you seem a bit confused about what's happened and who's done what. It certainly seems you require to move on from this practitioner and get advice from another, as you've clearly lost faith in his abilities. You appear to have many issues for someone so young, especially with another child on the way.

I hope you get over them and things get better for you, but I feel you need to have a much more positive perspective on things in general to be able to achieve this. Good luck.
banned#33
my post wasnt a dig, i do feel that you should use this energy to put your life in order, i know you are only young and you have many years to live yet, but moving on will be of more help to you than wasting what energy you have in trying to get this person punished, refuse to see him and move on, if his behaviour is that bad then people should refuse to see him, without clients he wont have a job

Im not going to go into a rambling into my life, but lets just say its been good and been bad, for a long time i felt why me, then i relaised why not me, im no more special than anyone else, you can move on with life but only you can do that, your posts state that you think its lifes episodes that make you like you are, dont allow them to make you unhappy, use what you have to your advantage and move on, as said dont waste what energy you have on being bitter
#34
The medication you are on, does not need to be so carefully withdrawn gradually. Many of you are confusing this with the old type of antidepressants (benzodiazepenes), these did give severe side effects if withdrawn suddenly, that is why very few people are on these now. Using terms such as cold turkey is not relevant to this medication.

I am not saying your symptoms are not real, just not related to withdrawl. Your main problem is anxiety and you are terrified that you cannot manage without the medication. That is totally understandable.

Personally, I don't believe this is the right place to criticise someone who has no chance of giving their side of the story. Stand back and look at the bigger picture here. Don't waste years of your life persuing a personal vendetta or fighting a legal case that will go nowhere. Your Dr's concern is for the baby and they have to make sure it is not harmed in any way, or THEY would be liable.

You have to have confidence in yourself that you can manage without the medication for the sake of your baby.
#35
iglimpse
The medication you are on, does not need to be so carefully withdrawn gradually. Many of you are confusing this with the old type of antidepressants (benzodiazepenes), these did give severe side effects if withdrawn suddenly, that is why very few people are on these now. Using terms such as cold turkey is not relevant to this medication.

I am not saying your symptoms are not real, just not related to withdrawl. Your main problem is anxiety and you are terrified that you cannot manage without the medication. That is totally understandable.

Personally, I don't believe this is the right place to criticise someone who has no chance of giving their side of the story. Stand back and look at the bigger picture here. Don't waste years of your life persuing a personal vendetta or fighting a legal case that will go nowhere. Your Dr's concern is for the baby and they have to make sure it is not harmed in any way, or THEY would be liable.

You have to have confidence in yourself that you can manage without the medication for the sake of your baby.


Couple of points on this.

Cipralex is recommended to be withdrawn over 1-2 weeks - as mentioned on the company website here. I thought that was the case with most SSRI's. So basically the physician was doing the right thing in gradually reducing the dose, a point regarding the OP's original query that I still can't fathom, nor has she given a specific reason for having a problem with his methods in this regard.

Benzodiazepenes are most often referred to as anti-anxiety drugs or sedatives, and not usually anti-depressants, from my understanding.
#36
There are many different classes of antidepressants, and unfortunately most have effects associated with dependancy and withdrawal. I think OP, you've made a decision that what the doctor did was dangerous - I'm not trying to be patronising, but i'm sure the doctor knows much more about the medications than yourself. No amount of googling can beat experience and knowledge in a field.

I recommend people reading articles on [url]www.patient.co.uk[/url] - I recommend these to people - they have a lot of the information leaflets given out by GPs to their patients, and also have more technical articles for health professionals and patients who want to know more.

Whatever your issue with this doctor, it's obvious that it has affected you in a big way - Your first step should be to obviously speak to this doctor about the problem. If that does not work, you need to speak to the hospital where you see them - Every hospital has a PALS service (patient advisory and liason service) or a complaints department - from my experience, they work very quickly, you are able to meet with and speak to senior people at the hospital directly, and they tend to be very good at trying to sort out your problems.

Rather than going straight to a solicitor, which will actually take longer, I think it's a better idea to do as above - The complaints department will take the matter further if that is what you want, and can investigate the matter fully. Then, if you choose to involve your own lawyer, they can help you with whatever you need.

As someone in the medical profession, that is my advice, but do let us know how you get on.
#37
moob
You can't buy prescription only medicine online.


Ok well not directly but I thought you could get a Dr to prescribe on some online site or something like they assess you some way or other,it would be costly though.
#38
Maybe a visit to your GP or see a Midwife,varies from area to area to get a booking in appointment.See if they can get you to perhaps see someone else about it all. I just know that midwife got quick referrals on some things,I seen a form where they could get women a speedy referall to quit smoking program on NHS.

Hope it all goes well with you having the baby.
#39
Mum2Connor&Cerys
Ok well not directly but I thought you could get a Dr to prescribe on some online site or something like they assess you some way or other,it would be costly though.


There's no way a GP would do such a thing, nor do they have the ability to do so. Online sites only sell medication that isn't POM, as POM medicines must be dispensed under the supervision of a qualified pharmacist.

POM = Prescription Only Medicine.
#40
Mum2Connor&Cerys
Maybe a visit to your GP or see a Midwife,varies from area to area to get a booking in appointment.See if they can get you to perhaps see someone else about it all. I just know that midwife got quick referrals on some things,I seen a form where they could get women a speedy referall to quit smoking program on NHS.



Thing is, she's already referred to a psychiatrist by her GP in the first place, and has mentioned on the thread that the GP has sent letters to this psychiatrist without reply. A midwife is not clinically qualified to refer a patient to a psychiatrist.

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