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I've been asked to help a family member out, They want a computer so their son can play call of duty 4. They have a poweracer f5 tower. http://www.acerdirect.co.uk/Acer_Power_F5_PS.PF5C6.U05/… Read More
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
I've been asked to help a family member out,

They want a computer so their son can play call of duty 4.

They have a poweracer f5 tower.

http://www.acerdirect.co.uk/Acer_Power_F5_PS.PF5C6.U05/version.asp

They would prefare to upgrade the tower to cut costs. Looking around I found the form factor of the case to be uATX

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2503523&CatId=0

Is they any difference between uATX and mATX?

Would it be possible to straight swap motherboards in acer's prebuilt systems?
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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uATX and mATX are both the same ,What parts are you thinking of upgrading as you will probably be better off just buying another PC,
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motherboard, memory, cpu, graphics card and prob... powersupply.

I know the current motherboard will house a Intel Pentium D 950 3.4 GHz anyone know if that would be anygood at running call of duty 4 with good graphics combo?
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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=black]Can You Run It :thumbsup:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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if the motherboard doesn't have PCI-E on it then you need to start again. but in this instance i think you pretty much have to anyway. what were you actually intending to keep for the old machine? the DVD-ROM? Flog it and build or buy somthing from scratch.

In answer to motherboard / case sizes.

motherboards go ITX > uATX (micro atx), mATX (mini atx) and ATX

cases go ITX > uATX, mATX, Midi ATX (ATX) and the full tower (ATX)

A midi ATX case and above can fit a full size ATX board (then you just have to think about the depth of the case vs the size of the gfx card), Any size case is compatible with all the boards in the sizes below it. so you can fit an ITX board in an ITX case (those shuttle ones) or in a full tower and anywhere in between.
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bruffterman


In answer to motherboard / case sizes.

motherboards go ITX > uATX (micro atx), mATX (mini atx) and ATX

cases go ITX > uATX, mATX, Midi ATX (ATX) and the full tower (ATX)

A midi ATX case and above can fit a full size ATX board (then you just have to think about the depth of the case vs the size of the gfx card), Any size case is compatible with all the boards in the sizes below it. so you can fit an ITX board in an ITX case (those shuttle ones) or in a full tower and anywhere in between.


I'm sorry, you're talking nonsense. There's no such thing as Mini ATX.

mATX and uATX are both ways of writing μATX (Micro ATX).

ITX is a set of motherboard standards, but they're a lot smaller and not very common. The only two that apply here are μATX and ATX. μATX is identical to ATX except for having fewer expansion slots so it's shorter. μATX will fit in ATX cases but not vice versa. The only difference between midi and full towers is that the latter is larger to allow for things like more drives. Some midi-towers may be μATX only, but that's down to the specific case rather than any sort of standard.

If you've got an μATX case then you need an μATX motherboard.

Boogie83e
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=black]Can You Run It :thumbsup:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]


These sites are generally useless and go by misleading numbers like the processor frequency, so if you do have a look then take whatever it says with a large pinch of salt.

antony4462
motherboard, memory, cpu, graphics card and prob... powersupply.

I know the current motherboard will house a Intel Pentium D 950 3.4 GHz anyone know if that would be anygood at running call of duty 4 with good graphics combo?


The Pentium D 950 came out in January 2006 so it's virtually four years old, definitely not something you want to be upgrading to.

With a four year old, bottom of the range hard drive the PC will be a bit sluggish, the DVD could well be IDE and with a case like that you don't want to large cables blocking airflow, it was only designed for integrated graphics and doesn't appear to have a front air intake so cooling in general may be a problem and the copy of Windows is likely to be an OEM version and may think it's on another computer after the extensive upgrade and refuse to work.

In other words, you could upgrade it but it would be a learning experience if your computer knowledge currently doesn't extend to cover μATX. If your relatives don't have patience then I'd recommend you encourage them to buy a new computer instead.
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Thank you for your good advice Endless wave and the good intentions of the others, you've saved time on my behalve and probally heart break on theirs.

I will suggest building a computer from scratch or if patience is not the thing i'll look for a prebuilt system capable of their needs, i've already suggested http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170254 would you know of a better recommendation?

I've built a few systems but normally use custom pc recommended components as a guide each time I learn something :)

Thanks again

ps. not sure about the budget I think my uncle is been a little shy of the information in the hope i'll come up with something far below budget I would say the 300 pound mark would be what he'd like to spend!.
#7
EndlessWaves
I'm sorry, you're talking nonsense. There's no such thing as Mini ATX.

mATX and uATX are both ways of writing μATX (Micro ATX).



You are right, i'm not sure what I was thinking, I just remember seeing mATX in referece to motherboards before which is obviously incorrect and should only be used to refer to cases.

and I couldn't be bothered to try and find the Mu key, to write micro correctly. no one else ever does, i'm glad you did tho. I know ITX isn't suitable to his needs but I was just trying to give all the information so anyone who read it understood, that all the boards have correct mounting points for the ATX standard even ITX, and any board will fit in a full size case. I can imagine people thinking they might need to buy a full ATX board to put in a full size case.



ITX is a set of motherboard standards, but they're a lot smaller and not very common. The only two that apply here are μATX and ATX. μATX is identical to ATX except for having fewer expansion slots so it's shorter. μATX will fit in ATX cases but not vice versa. The only difference between midi and full towers is that the latter is larger to allow for things like more drives. Some midi-towers may be μATX only, but that's down to the specific case rather than any sort of standard.

If you've got an μATX case then you need an μATX motherboard.



These sites are generally useless and go by misleading numbers like the processor frequency, so if you do have a look then take whatever it says with a large pinch of salt.



The Pentium D 950 came out in January 2006 so it's virtually four years old, definitely not something you want to be upgrading to.

With a four year old, bottom of the range hard drive the PC will be a bit sluggish, the DVD could well be IDE and with a case like that you don't want to large cables blocking airflow, it was only designed for integrated graphics and doesn't appear to have a front air intake so cooling in general may be a problem and the copy of Windows is likely to be an OEM version and may think it's on another computer after the extensive upgrade and refuse to work.

In other words, you could upgrade it but it would be a learning experience if your computer knowledge currently doesn't extend to cover μATX. If your relatives don't have patience then I'd recommend you encourage them to buy a new computer instead.
#8
bruffterman
and I couldn't be bothered to try and find the Mu key, to write micro correctly. no one else ever does, i'm glad you did tho.


windows key>type charmap>hit enter and then search for the name of the symbol you want.

I think you can also get the character map up through the accessories group in the start menu, but mine went awol a while ago after I accidentally deleted the entire programs group. :roll:


My point about patience was that if you wanted to keep some of the components of the old system they may trip you up and result in a less than satisfactory PC that you may have found hard to diagnose the cause of.

I can't really recommend any good deals and and I don't know what the ebuyer one is like for quality (of build and usability, like noisiness) but it will be more than fast enough.

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