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Adding an Access point to a WIFI Network

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Just a quick question to all the braniacs. I already have a Pre-N Wireless Router (see here - http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=186900 ) which is great. I have just boug… Read More
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
Just a quick question to all the braniacs. I already have a Pre-N Wireless Router (see here - http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=186900 ) which is great. I have just bought a second one off ebay (exactly the same) to extend the range further. I will set the 2nd one as purely an Access Point (rather than a router etc;) which you can do in the config. My question is this - will the network be slower with 2?

Also as a side note where is the best place to place the 2nd one: at the strongest signal area of the house or on the very tip of existing coverage?
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
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#1
a couple of things, are you hardwiring the new access point or using it to repeat the signal?

no more than a 15% overlap if using the same channel, the 3 non-over lapping channels are 1, 7 and 13 if you wish to go for no interference; after a WLAN survey of other channels in use in your area for optimum performance. (this the most common problem with domestic WiFi, too many people using the same channels in a small area)
#2
Hi,

Sorry dont know the answer to your question but would really like to know, how big your house is that you dont get coverage in some part of the house?

I have a Belkin N1 vision (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=450535) and I get 3 or 4 bars even at the end of the garden and can also surf the net from down my street...

So wouldnt it be easier just to sell your routers and buy a wifi n?

Just a thought... best of luck..
#3
zish_uk
Hi,

Sorry dont know the answer to your question but would really like to know, how big your house is that you dont get coverage in some part of the house?

I have a Belkin N1 vision (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=450535) and I get 3 or 4 bars even at the end of the garden and can also surf the net from down my street...

So wouldnt it be easier just to sell your routers and buy a wifi n?

Just a thought... best of luck..


N doesn't denote the range by the way only the level of maths applied to the signal interpretion to gain greater bandwidth, even then its still half duplex.
#4
If you're picking up the wireless signal from one and then re-broadcasting it then there will be a performance loss on that side because of of the extra relay.

Obviously placing it at the edge of coverage will give you the most coverage, but if the second router can only pick up a very poor signal, thus very slow and/or intermittent, then that's the best it will be able to provide. as you know the farther away you get the slower the connection becomes to try and compensate for the degraded signal, so if router 2 can only get a 10mbit signal then that's the most you'll get when connected to it even with a perfect signal (you pc will report full speed, but anything only attached to router one such as internet will be really slow). So what I'm saying really is that you need to try and find the best compromise between extending your signal and preserving the quality. and If you have the function to upgrade the aerials on your routers you should, they're not expensive and going to 9db can treble your range.

hope that helps
#5
I thought if it was repeating, you used the same channel? since it's the same data. I mean obviously every device on one network is on the same channel? I thought you only needed to use a different channel for an entirely different network?

Still the best option for the OP i think is either to upgrade the aerials on one router, or put them at opposite ends of the house and connect them via HomePlugs (I'm assuming ethernet isn't an option)
#6
bruffterman
I thought if it was repeating, you used the same channel? since it's the same data. I mean obviously every device on one network is on the same channel? I thought you only needed to use a different channel for an entirely different network?

Still the best option for the OP i think is either to upgrade the aerials on one router, or put them at opposite ends of the house and connect them via HomePlugs (I'm assuming ethernet isn't an option)


if its a standalone repeater (not hardwired) then yes the RF channel should match, but if you have a hardwired access point network then mesh design using the channels 1, 6, and 11 (or 1, 7,13)

eg:

http://www.wlanbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/1_6_11_layoutsm.gif
#7
Hi guys - thanks for the info so far. The second one will just be being used as a WIFI access point (not network hardwired). I presumed it would have to be on the same channel, SSID and security setup?

With regards to signal my router is in my cellar (because thats where the cable comes in) so my bedroom is actually quite a way including all the walls and floors. And it certainly doesn't make it to the end of the garden.

Interesting to note about replacing the ariels. Is there a specific one I would need for my router or are they generic? Thanks again for everyones time...
#8
there are a couple of different types but the most common by far is RP-SMA, you'll probably see it mentioned somewhere in the manual

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