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need a way of connecting a RF (old ariel) to a scart lead. the wires are under floor boards and hard wired in so i dont have a option. also i dont want to use a wireless sender as have tried 2 and… Read More
littlehoneyz Avatar
8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
need a way of connecting a RF (old ariel) to a scart lead.

the wires are under floor boards and hard wired in so i dont have a option.
also i dont want to use a wireless sender as have tried 2 and the interfearance is unreal.

currently using a video player but its on its way out and would not mind a box out of the way

cheers
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8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
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1 Like #4
take a look at this page

http://www.telly-leads.co.uk/rf-modulator.htm

It says antenna input, scart outout, so yeah, it should be fine
#5
littlehoneyz
is it possible to have a the RF as input and the scart as a output???


No it's not possible.
What you are being shown are the other way around.
If you have a DVD player with only a scart output, and an old tv with only an aeriel input, then the above are for you.

You can not go the other way round.
#6
RobInBrentwood
take a look at this page

http://www.telly-leads.co.uk/rf-modulator.htm

It says antenna input, scart outout, so yeah, it should be fine




What it says is

You existing aerial connection also plugs into the RF Modulator so there is no need to lose your normal terrestrial TV reception.

What this means is, you connect your existing aeriel into this so that you only have the one output lead that goes into your tv.
#7
Jumpingphil
What it says is

You existing aerial connection also plugs into the RF Modulator so there is no need to lose your normal terrestrial TV reception.

What this means is, you connect your existing aeriel into this so that you only have the one output lead that goes into your tv.


so i put my RF lead into this and scart it to my TV???
#8
Read post #6 again. It can't be done.

Read the first sentence in black from this site.
http://www.telly-leads.co.uk/rf-modulator.htm
It is going FROM scart TO an aeriel plug.
#9
Jumpingphil
No it's not possible.
What you are being shown are the other way around.
If you have a DVD player with only a scart output, and an old tv with only an aeriel input, then the above are for you.

You can not go the other way round.



How do you think a VCR or DVD player outputs an RF input to a TV via SCART output? It is possible, albeit not a direct conversion. However, I don't know of a dedicated device on the market to do the job specifically. The way it is done is to use a TV tuner that receives an RF input and modulate the signal. The picture can then be split into the signals of component or RGB (SCART supports component and some will support RGB, although that is not in the SCART specifications).

For the OP, one option is to buy a cheap DVD player or VCR as they will have the tuner built in which provides the intermediary for the conversion. A 5.8 GHz wireless sender may solve your problems too ([url]www.play.com[/url] sell one for £50) if you don't want the extra space taken up by a VCR or DVD player.
#10
ElliottC
How do you think a VCR or DVD player outputs an RF input to a TV via SCART output? It is possible, albeit not a direct conversion. However, I don't know of a dedicated device on the market to do the job specifically. The way it is done is to use a TV tuner that receives an RF input and modulate the signal. The picture can then be split into the signals of component or RGB (SCART supports component and some will support RGB, although that is not in the SCART specifications).




As far as I know, a DVD player doesn't have an RF input.
And I know how a VCR takes an RF input and gives you a SCART output.
And as far as I know, there isn't a dedicated device on the market to do it.
THAT, is why I said it can't be done.

What you have said above, I perfectly understand. I suspect not everyone would though.
So I think what you have posted doesn't help anyone at all.

Oh, and buying a cheap DVD player is not an option, 'cos it hasn't got a tv tuner in it.
What you are suggesting could be a waste of money for the op.
#11
Jumpingphil
As far as I know, a DVD player doesn't have an RF input.
And I know how a VCR takes an RF input and gives you a SCART output.
And as far as I know, there isn't a dedicated device on the market to do it.
THAT, is why I said it can't be done.

What you have said above, I perfectly understand. I suspect not everyone would though.
So I think what you have posted doesn't help anyone at all.

Oh, and buying a cheap DVD player is not an option, 'cos it hasn't got a tv tuner in it.
What you are suggesting could be a waste of money for the op.


OK fair enough DVD players cannot as they do not have built in tuners but DVD recorders certainly can perform the task (so it CAN be done which is why I said it CAN be done albeit indirectly - you're statement that it cannot be done wasn't made clear that the conversion is to be a direct conversion). A VCR and DVD recorder is certainly up to the task and as I mentioned the 5.8 GHz sender will almost certainly solve the problem (as the OP suggested that previous video senders have failed - assuming that these are the more common 2.4 Ghz video senders).

Feel free to have the final say.

Oh if the intended use is to transfer a DVB-T signal from RF to SCART rather than any analogue signal via RF, then this will be a cheaper option than the 5.8 Ghz video sender - http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=98752
#12
ElliottC
OK fair enough DVD players cannot as they do not have built in tuners but DVD recorders certainly can perform the task (so it CAN be done which is why I said it CAN be done albeit indirectly - you're statement that it cannot be done wasn't made clear that the conversion is to be a direct conversion). A VCR and DVD recorder is certainly up to the task and as I mentioned the 5.8 GHz sender will almost certainly solve the problem (as the OP suggested that previous video senders have failed - assuming that these are the more common 2.4 Ghz video senders).

Feel free to have the final say.

Oh if the intended use is to transfer a DVB-T signal from RF to SCART rather than any analogue signal via RF, then this will be a cheaper option than the 5.8 Ghz video sender - http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=98752


the only input from the RF is from a sky + box

will the freeview box show this?
#13
littlehoneyz
the only input from the RF is from a sky + box

will the freeview box show this?



Unfortunately not, as the the Freeview SCART plug has a digital tuner.

Asuming that the video senders you tried unsuccessfully were 2.4 GHz types, you can try one using the 5.8 Ghz frequency which should not suffer interference unless your home and surrounding areas are full of devices transmitting at that frequency which I very much doubt. The 5.8Ghz sender is £50 at Play.com and £60 at Maplins but a VCR or DVD Recorder is far cheaper.
#14
all this discussion and i'm still not sure just what the op is trying to achieve, might be an idea for it to be stated clearly as i fear some people are on diff pages here
#15
i have a RF lead coming out of a sky box.
i have a TV with a scart lead coming out of the back.

i need a way to connect the RF to the Scart - currently using a videobut its too big for some new shelving.
the tv is built in and cant be moved and the sky box is no ware hear the TV hense the RF lead which goes under the flooring.

IS THERE A DVD PLAYER WITH A RF INPUT?

thanks for your help thus far everyone
#16
sorry OP but,you cannot connect a scart lead "directly" to a rf lead, he electronics "after" each connection are very different.
Again the description doesn't go much further in explaining what it is you are tryin to do., is this a second connection(in another room) you are trying to set up?
haven't seen any dvd players with an rf input because there is no logical reason to have one just the same as a washing machine doesn't have one, a dvd RECORDER is a different matter and usually will have both rf input and output.

Think you may be over complicating the solution, for instance the rf(coax) lead under the floor is this an aerial feed from the roof? if so just attach a splitter
#17
littlehoneyz
i have a RF lead coming out of a sky box.
i have a TV with a scart lead coming out of the back.

i need a way to connect the RF to the Scart - currently using a videobut its too big for some new shelving.
the tv is built in and cant be moved and the sky box is no ware hear the TV hense the RF lead which goes under the flooring.

IS THERE A DVD PLAYER WITH A RF INPUT?

thanks for your help thus far everyone


Don't be confused by what I said earlier regarding DVD players. I actually made a mistake and meant DVD Recorders (rather than players when mentioned within the same context as VCRs) because DVD Recorders have a TV tuner. The DVD Recorder option will work but as I mentioned last night, if you don't want the space taken up, you can use the 5.8 GHz Video Sender.
#18
ElliottC
Don't be confused by what I said earlier regarding DVD players. I actually made a mistake and meant DVD Recorders (rather than players when mentioned within the same context as VCRs) because DVD Recorders have a TV tuner. The DVD Recorder option will work but as I mentioned last night, if you don't want the space taken up, you can use the 5.8 GHz Video Sender.


spot on mate, just looked at some DVD recorders that fit the bill. all of them have a RF input so thanks for the lead.

massivly appreciated.
#19
maddogb
sorry OP but,you cannot connect a scart lead "directly" to a rf lead, he electronics "after" each connection are very different.
Again the description doesn't go much further in explaining what it is you are tryin to do., is this a second connection(in another room) you are trying to set up?
haven't seen any dvd players with an rf input because there is no logical reason to have one just the same as a washing machine doesn't have one, a dvd RECORDER is a different matter and usually will have both rf input and output.

Think you may be over complicating the solution, for instance the rf(coax) lead under the floor is this an aerial feed from the roof? if so just attach a splitter


the description explains exactly what i needed hense me getting a answer from people.
#20
littlehoneyz
the description explains exactly what i needed hense me getting a answer from people.

why the snipe? you actually got 4 diff answers so it wasn't that clear and the answer you were so expressively grateful for was also stated in my post!
and a dvd recorder will not enable you to connect a scart to an rf cable which is what you asked for?
so whilst the problem is still avoided and still unstated i guess you are trying to distribute a sky signal to another room via the rf lead is this the case because it wil require using a dvd recorder with both rf through put and scart through put which many will not have.
#21
maddogb
why the snipe? you actually got 4 diff answers so it wasn't that clear and the answer you were so expressively grateful for was also stated in my post!
and a dvd recorder will not enable you to connect a scart to an rf cable which is what you asked for?
so whilst the problem is still avoided and still unstated i guess you are trying to distribute a sky signal to another room via the rf lead is this the case because it wil require using a dvd recorder with both rf through put and scart through put which many will not have.


the bus for the hair splitting convention has allready left - did you miss it:whistling:
#22
wtf, u try to help someone and they abuse you?? nice show you got going there!
#23
maddogb
wtf, u try to help someone and they abuse you?? nice show you got going there!


all aboard - split split
#24
maddogb
why the snipe? you actually got 4 diff answers so it wasn't that clear and the answer you were so expressively grateful for was also stated in my post!
and a dvd recorder will not enable you to connect a scart to an rf cable which is what you asked for?
so whilst the problem is still avoided and still unstated i guess you are trying to distribute a sky signal to another room via the rf lead is this the case because it wil require using a dvd recorder with both rf through put and scart through put which many will not have.



To be fair, it was quite evident that the OP stated (in post 4) that the intention was for a source accepting an input signal from an RF connector and distributing a converted signal via SCART. This is exactly what a DVD recorder or VCR can do - a UHF signal from an aerial or even Sky Box (such as the RF2 output tuned to a frequency that does not interfere with terrestrial analogue frequencies) is sent to the tuner inside the DVD recorder or VCR (or any device that can modulate a UHF signal). As the DVD recorder or VCR usually contain SCART or SVideo (which usually carries the same signal as SCART but using different plugs) then it provides the RF input/SCART output solution. A DVD recorder or VCR will work and I am sure you've used one before!

Your reply regarding differences with electronics "after" each connection is open to some objective debate too (see Post 17). The term "after" (sic) really doesn't describe anything at all due to the fact that the signals are actually similar because composite signals in SCART, SVideo or RCA connector are modulated onto radio frequency platforms just like UHF signals of amphenol coaxial connectors which is the type used in TVs and been loosely termed RF connector in this thread.

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