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Advice needed - CANON LENS - 50mm Prime better than 18-55 IS ?

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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
hi, does anyone here own both these Canon lenses;

EF-S 50mm f1.8 prime lens ( £ 80 or so )

EF-S 18-55mm IS lens ( £ 120 or so )

the IS zoom lens is the new kit lens, included with 450d etc, and has had good reviews, I know the prime lens is cheap but has had amazing reviews for sharpness and clarity / colour rendition.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has both these lens, and if so could they let me know how the IS zoom lens compared to the prime.

I have the stock 18-55 kit lens , which I have to admit I find very low quality, the sharpness is extremely poor for a slr lens of any price, Im used to Zuiko lens, with excellent sharpness and are the best kit lenses you can get, but as I also have a Canon slr, Im wanting to get rid of the stock lens, but am not sure about buying the new zoom IS lens, unless it is a major improvement over the non IS version.

so before I order any of those 2 lens, I really would like to hear from anyone who owns both and can make a direct comparison between them, and also compared to the stock non-IS 18-55 kit lens

thanks.....
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#1
I really depends on what your shooting.

The 18-55 will be the same as the stock lens, but has the IS which helps you remain steady in low light situations.

Canons IS is fantastic and I wouldn't be without it on my 70-200L IS 2.8, but to see the real benefit and feel you get your monies worth from the IS range I would say you need to go for the L series lenses.

I found the the 18-55 IS to be as 'cheap' build quality as the stock lens, to be frank I hate it.
It is however more versatile than the 50mm having the zoom capability and the wide angle option low down.

The 50mm is a cracking lens probably my favourite 'cheapy' lens it really is sharp, OK the build is not much better than the stock range but because it has no moving bits (zoom) it feels better quality as it doesn't rattle and clunk, as far as the 50mm goes it is pretty damn sharp and very very fast even in low light.

Depending on which model you go for the MK1 or MK2, the MK1 has a metal lens mount which I prefer to those plastic ones, but it can be a bit slow on auto focus and doesn't half make a racket while it hunts. The MK1 is a little tricky to get a hold of as its a bit old now, but you can pick them up in mint condition between £80-110. You really don't want to be paying more than £70 with postage for the MK2 version.

If your looking for a walk-about lens the 18-55IS will fill a hole in your kit and do the job.

If your looking for a quick and small lens for low light use without a great deal of reach go for the 50mm I think everyone should have this lens in their kit, its my favourite lens to use at parties, it gives pretty damn good background blur owing to the aperture size and for the price its almost dispoable as far as lenses go.

I have been tempted to go for the better build 50mm f1.2L but thats expensive and I dont think I could justify the cost when that money could be spent elsewhere, incidently I used said money and bought a 24-70 2.8L which is my favourite lens at the moment even though it weighs the same amount as a small house
#2
The only major improvement is the IS in my opinion, the aperture range is pants so the lens doesn't let in enough light meaning the slightest movement due to a lower shutter speed means you will end up with blurred photos, the IS does eliminate this but its not fool proof, if your subject moves you still have a shakey shot so to speak.

Don't get me wrong, for a budget its a good walk about lens and it does do the job and is versatile.

The problem in comparing them is they are 2 very different lenses and have 2 different applications, what are you intending on using the lens for predominantly?

In terms of sharpness I think the 50mm is unreal for the cost, I had to spend £700+ to see that type of sharpness in a pro lens, obviously the background blur quality is much higher in the more expensive lenses as the number of blades the aperture uses increases which creates smoother blur, but for under £100 the 50mm is sweeeeeet.
#3
I have the standard kit lens - and it's underrated - with a bit of Photoshop sharpening the results are great.
I have the 1.8 lens too - not IS - that is sharper but obviously more specialist. It is a good lens if a bit cheaply built.
I have the Canon 28-135mm IS - this is a great lens and also pretty punchy in the right conditions.
I also have the 70-200mm L USM non-IS this is a fantastic lens but big and cumbersome - looks nice. But never use it 'cos it is too big.

My favourite lens is my SIgma 18-200mm OS - BRILLIANT for the money - tweak on the sharpness sometime otherwise it's spot on.

There is too much snobbery in photography - really - get a Sigma 18-200mm and then go buy an adapter for you old SLR prime lens to fit your DSLR

DOWN WITH PHOTO SNOBBY NERDS - YEA!!!!!
#4
Bobef90
I have the standard kit lens - and it's underrated - with a bit of Photoshop sharpening the results are great.
I have the 1.8 lens too - not IS - that is sharper but obviously more specialist. It is a good lens if a bit cheaply built.
I have the Canon 28-135mm IS - this is a great lens and also pretty punchy in the right conditions.
I also have the 70-200mm L USM non-IS this is a fantastic lens but big and cumbersome - looks nice. But never use it 'cos it is too big.

My favourite lens is my SIgma 18-200mm OS - BRILLIANT for the money - tweak on the sharpness sometime otherwise it's spot on.

There is too much snobbery in photography - really - get a Sigma 18-200mm and then go buy an adapter for you old SLR prime lens to fit your DSLR

DOWN WITH PHOTO SNOBBY NERDS - YEA!!!!!


I tend to believe do the job right first time, you don't need to fix it after.

Its nothing to do with photo snobbery, the OP asked what the lenses were like so I gave them my opinion, the OP didn't ask how much photoshopping was required after using a shoddy lens.
#5
The 80mm is an awesome lense for the money you pay, its a bit sketchy around 1.8 but still pretty hot.

Not sure if i'd bother with the 18-55, the IS is nice, but i think there are better options out there, Sigma for example do a fantastic lens at this range, or the 18-200 which is ace also.

But yes, 80mm for the win. :thumbsup:
#6
Let us know how you get on :thumbsup:
#7
Can anyone tell me if the 18-55 canon lens is a macro lens. Please excuse my ignorance, I bought the 400d a few months ago, and I want to take photos extremely close up.

Have seen them on ebay for about £35-£45 quid used.

Is there any other lenses that I should look out for?

Thanks in advance,
#8
Celticsun
I tend to believe do the job right first time, you don't need to fix it after.

Its nothing to do with photo snobbery, the OP asked what the lenses were like so I gave them my opinion, the OP didn't ask how much photoshopping was required after using a shoddy lens.


I meant no offence I assure you but there is rarely a photo taken by any serious amateur or professional that will not require some kind of tweaking - sharpness being in need of adjustment 90% of the time regardless of lens or ability.
#9
Closest Focusing Distance: 0.28m / 0.92 ft. to infinity

see this test : http://photo.net/equipment/canon/efs18-55/

You can buy my one for £40 if you are interested - it's in great condition and has little use. But as I ssadi earlier - for the price it's good value - for £40 it's Christmass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#10
Is this the 50mm one you were talking about?

http://www.onestop-digital.com/catalog/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=GBP&products_id=109

I was looking at getting it, that's the best price i've found, roll on christmas
#11
Its in very good order - little used
#12
Thanks Bobef90,

thanks for your offer, Im just having a little look around at the moment, but will give this some serious thought now,
#13
Let me know how you get on, perhaps show a couple of pics. Loads of people have said it's amazing and i really want one but having just bought a Laptop and a 20d and a lense i can't really justify it!!
#14
My ex-wife got mugged last year, had her credit cards stolen..I never reported it cos the mugger was spendin less than she was
#15
cats
will do... i will take identical pics with the new 50mm prime, and exising 18-55 kit lens

will also take one with my sony T9 compact to spice things up


Sounds like a plan!

cats
My ex-wife got mugged last year, had her credit cards stolen..I never reported it cos the mugger was spendin less than she was


Funny, but i'm guessing in the wrong thread lol
#16
A lot of the 'sharpness' would depend on which aperture you are using. The 50mm 1.8 isn't that sharp at the wide end (1.8, 2.8), however its equal to L series lens once you get to 4.5, 5.6.

That said, the Olympus lense is a cracker, with a focal length closer to *actual* 18-55. The difference between that and both the canon stock lens and 50mm is that it is consistanly sharp over most of the range. However, it is slightly unfair to match a zoom lens and a prime lens. You are right in saying that people underestimate the olympus DSLR's, most of them are fanastic cameras, much like the OM range of film cameras were.

As for the macro question, many telephotos (70-200) offer a macro setting at the full zoom, however to get 'proper' macro you'd need a macro prime lens, and it gets costly. The 18-55 would do a level of macro at the top end which would give you a taste of what *proper* macro is like.
#17
50mm lens at good price here. I find it invaluable for indoor photography without flash.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-50mm-1-8-Lens/dp/B00005K47X/ref=pe_13931_12763721_as_txt_6/
#18
Funnily enough DPR only rate the 14-42mm as recommended but the 50mm F1.4 (the midrange version of the 50mm F1.8) gets highly recommended...

The Olympus 50mm which is a different optical design from the 'classic' ones is a different design and very sharp, even more so than its high quality siblings. The 7-14mm and 35-100mm are incredible lenses especially the 35-100mm which I originally didn't think would get enough use to justify the price but the results make it well worth it.

John
#19
Bertt
50mm lens at good price here. I find it invaluable for indoor photography without flash.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-50mm-1-8-Lens/dp/B00005K47X/ref=pe_13931_12763721_as_txt_6/


Even better at my link :thumbsup:
#20
sancho1983
Even better at my link :thumbsup:


But Amazon is official UK seller and Onestop Digital is Hong Kong based.
#21
People have a lot of difficulty getting over the 'small' sensor which is an immediate dealbreaker, much of the sensitivity advantage is balanced by the fast Zuiko glass available which is fully usable wide open.

John

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