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Hi There you may or may not be aware that the .tel domains came out for sale yesterday. so instead of .com or .co.uk they released .tel any way i had a look at at all the big companys, sky, bbc… Read More
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
Hi There

you may or may not be aware that the .tel domains came out for sale yesterday.
so instead of .com or .co.uk they released .tel

any way i had a look at at all the big companys, sky, bbc, fox ect ect and they had allready shapped theres up. I managed to register 118.tel

anyway, i received a call this morning offering me £10000 for it, i havent got a clue what its worth, and whilst £10000 is alot, i dont want to shoot my self in the foot.

any one got any experience in this?
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
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banned#1
meh... sounds like a reasonable offer. Most go for sort of $500-$2000 for just a common term, so £10000 does at least give you something for getting a very decent domain.

I'd be very wary as to whether its genuine though.
#2
Tell them to take a hike as it's value is prob 10 times that if not more.
#3
that is awesome!! well done. I have no idea what they are worth, but seems like easy money!! wish i was that entrepernuerial!
#4
i'd wait, if they offered £10,000 straight away, they will pay more! How much did you pay for it?
1 Like #5
10k is 10k. It accept personally. They may not want it otherwise, then your stuck with a domain name and nothing to show for it!
1 Like #6
Just a word of warning: I have a friend who is a lawyer and specialises in Intellectual Property Rights. I've asked him about domain names in the past (as I've speculated like you in the past). He advised me not to waste time and money doing it. Apparently if you don't have a personal connection to the domain you've purchased (like family name, registered company name etc.) A court of law would almost certainly force you to hand over the domain without any payment.

Obviously it's not always in the companies interest to take this route, I'm just thinking if you get greedy they might be willing to pursue it!

Good luck
#7
Jumpingphil


i found that too. I think some one is telling porkies!
banned 1 Like #8
is this serious?
#9
DazzyB
Just a word of warning: I have a friend who is a lawyer and specialises in Intellectual Property Rights. I've asked him about domain names in the past (as I've speculated like you in the past). He advised me not to waste time and money doing it. Apparently if you don't have a personal connection to the domain you've purchased (like family name, registered company name etc.) A court of law would almost certainly force you to hand over the domain without any payment.

Obviously it's not always in the companies interest to take this route, I'm just thinking if you get greedy they might be willing to pursue it!

Good luck


As stated here, take it and run since you will find it very difficult to actually have any rights to it.

However, if the post above regarding not allowing numbers only is correct then I wonder if you have been mis-sold something anyway.
#10
REDRANGER86
i found that too. I think some one is telling porkies!


Might just be a less than reputable company selling domains that can't exist.
#11
I snapped up manchestercityfc.tel, seemed worth a punt for £12.50 !!!!!
#12
DazzyB
Just a word of warning: I have a friend who is a lawyer and specialises in Intellectual Property Rights. I've asked him about domain names in the past (as I've speculated like you in the past). He advised me not to waste time and money doing it. Apparently if you don't have a personal connection to the domain you've purchased (like family name, registered company name etc.) A court of law would almost certainly force you to hand over the domain without any payment.

Obviously it's not always in the companies interest to take this route, I'm just thinking if you get greedy they might be willing to pursue it!

Good luck



i can confirm this is true it happened to someone close to me so if the offer is there and real id take it now, its a good offer
#13
Darryl2312
I snapped up manchestercityfc.tel, seemed worth a punt for £12.50 !!!!!


waste of money you wanted to get [url]www.mcfc.tel[/url]
banned#14
Darryl2312
I snapped up manchestercityfc.tel, seemed worth a punt for £12.50 !!!!!



I hope not, as you've wasted your money. What a bad domain. Why not the more obvious ManchesterCity.tel? Not that that is much better.
#15
vibeone
I hope not, as you've wasted your money. What a bad domain. Why not the more obvious ManchesterCity.tel? Not that that is much better.


their main site is [url]www.mcfc.co.uk[/url] i assume it would be [url]www.mcfc.tel[/url].

I also hope he/she didnt waste their money
#16
Where can you buy these from?
#17
gemmyw
Where can you buy these from?


any domain registry. i.e. http://www.123-reg.co.uk/
#18
Is anyone going to try and buy one>
#19
gemmyw
Is anyone going to try and buy one>


What would be the point? It will just be a dead domain suffix similar to .biz etc. In the UK you need .co.uk or .com, anything else and you will lose out.
#20
pghstochaj
What would be the point? It will just be a dead domain suffix similar to .biz etc. In the UK you need .co.uk or .com, anything else and you will lose out.

so how has this person been offered 10 grand?
#21
gemmyw
so how has this person been offered 10 grand?


I am not sure that they have, given the above comments. 118.tel for example might be worth something due to the link to telephones with 118, hence "yell.tel" would of basic use. However, overall, most people will just ignore the .tel.
banned#22
Darryl2312
I snapped up manchestercityfc.tel, seemed worth a punt for £12.50 !!!!!


Nah. You need to wait for the .win domains

Mancity.win is quite rare! :p
#23
If they have offered £10,000 like you claim (I would be highly surprised ) I would snap their hands off. As if this went to court you would not receive a penny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting

The law translates well to uk law as well, there have been a lot of cases.
banned#24
I've just registered William.

Some Swiss geezer just offered me a bag of apples and a bow and arrow!
banned#25
sven256
If they have offered £10,000 like you claim (I would be highly surprised ) I would snap their hands off. As if this went to court you would not receive a penny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting

The law translates well to uk law as well, there have been a lot of cases.


I have a company called DIY

Does this mean I can take diy.co.uk from B&Q without cost?

118 is a number. No one owns that (though no one owns the domain 118.tel as its invalid)
banned#26
Some of the absolute **** being posted in this thread is beyond comical.
#27
guv
I have a company called DIY

Does this mean I can take diy.co.uk from B&Q without cost?

118 is a number. No one owns that (though no one owns the domain 118.tel as its invalid)


b & q is a diy shop so they have a interest in the name i think it means if some on regestered argos for example and they didnt have a shop or a name or anything that connects them to the word argos :thumbsup:
#28
guv's on a roll here. I might register ho. for my pimping businesses...
#29
guv
I have a company called DIY

Does this mean I can take diy.co.uk from B&Q without cost?

118 is a number. No one owns that (though no one owns the domain 118.tel as its invalid)



Read the article there are also many others as well.

If you did own diy no b&q could not, as it in no way relates to the company name. Were if you have B&Q.co.uk and have just bought it for the intent of making a profit, then yes they could

To quote him.

"any way i had a look at at all the big companys, sky, bbc, fox ect ect and they had allready shapped theres up"

In order to stop a cybersquatter, the trademark owner must prove all of the following:

* the domain name registrant had a bad-faith intent to profit from the trademark
* the trademark was distinctive at the time the domain name was first registered
* the domain name is identical or confusingly similar to the trademark, and
* the trademark qualifies for protection under federal trademark laws -- that is, the trademark is distinctive and its owner was the first to use the trademark in commerce.

He bought the domain in a attempt to make a profit, which if any company wanted proof this thread would show.
banned#30
alot of these companies mgiht not have the time to go through the legal process, and may just opt to payout surely?
#31
sven256;4733403
Read the article there are also many others as well.

If you did own diy no b&q could not, as it in no way relates to the company name. Were if you have B&Q.co.uk and have just bought it for the intent of making a profit, then yes they could

To quote him.

"any way i had a look at at all the big companys, sky, bbc, fox ect ect and they had allready shapped theres up"

In order to stop a cybersquatter, the trademark owner must prove all of the following:

* the domain name registrant had a bad-faith intent to profit from the trademark
* the trademark was distinctive at the time the domain name was first registered
* the domain name is identical or confusingly similar to the trademark, and
* the trademark qualifies for protection under federal trademark laws -- that is, the trademark is distinctive and its owner was the first to use the trademark in commerce.

He bought the domain in a attempt to make a profit, which if any company wanted proof this thread would show.

You've quoted the US legislation, and we are not in the US.
#32
i lost out on a very nice .eu domain name once to someone else who had same idea
with .eu it was a first come basis but with some other guidelines.
anyway the day after he got it he emailed me and offered to sell it to my company for 5k (i think it cost around £100 to register as .eu ones had a load of forms to fill out)
anyway this was some time ago and i still get emails from him the price is down to £350 and i still dont want it....
banned#33
It's funny I just checked 118.tel, and it said invalid which i believe means you can't register that address!

Liar
#34
seancampbell
You've quoted the US legislation, and we are not in the US.


And as I posted in my previous post, the law translates well over here also. Just a bit harder to find examples over here, as searches tend to bring up American cases first.
#35
sven256;4733590
And as I posted in my previous post, the law translates well over here also. Just a bit harder to find examples over here, as searches tend to bring up American cases first.

Actually it doesn't. Try searching Lexis, Westlaw or Lawtel.
#36
seancampbell
Actually it doesn't. Try searching Lexis, Westlaw or Lawtel.


It doesn't?


http://networks.silicon.com/webwatch/0,39024667,39118158,00.htm

There is one case Yes they had paid £130 previous,but that is irrelevant in the final outcome. The ruling was in the case of the claimant

"According to Wired Sussex, the cybersquatters had no legitimate connection with the domain names and it did, so the ruling went in its favour. "

to quote the article

There are many more if you want to search.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/05/02/fulham_fc_wins_cybersquatting_case/

Etc there are loads.
#37
bargainsgalore
It's funny I just checked 118.tel, and it said invalid which i believe means you can't register that address!

Liar


WHAT ON EARTH????

it was registered at Telivo
http://www.telivo.com/whois.cgi
banned#38
Below are the registered details of the current owner of 118.tel.

This information has been provided by the registry for this Top Level Domain (TLD).
This domain is in the process of being registered.

Back to search results
banned#39
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now ;)

I just made an impulsive buy and bought a well known company name, not saying which, because I think it gives away my address.

Might have been a waste of a tenner, oh well.
banned#40
Just checked my whois details, had it 10 years this November no chance of mine being taken off me by a court :)

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