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Anyone know anything about loft ladders? Looking for a loft ladder to make an office in the loft. Can make new loft hatch pretty much any size. Am looking for as near to vertical ladder as possible… Read More
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9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
Anyone know anything about loft ladders?

Looking for a loft ladder to make an office in the loft. Can make new loft hatch pretty much any size. Am looking for as near to vertical ladder as possible, ie takes up as little space when down as possible. Preferably in wood as it looks and feels better IMO. Ideally one that you can lift up again from the inside (although I guess that's not supposed to happen for fire risks?). Also if it could take up the smallest amount of space in the loft that would be useful, although not necessary.

Oh, and for the best price!

Any advice welcomed,
Thanks.
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9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
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#1
just dont get a metal one there **** mines is lol. yh get a wooden one theres a design where it slides up and you have a stick which you use to pull it down.

http://www.loftladderbrochure.co.uk/images/loft_ladder.jpg

mines is like this:

http://www.loftladders999.co.uk/images/Loft%20Ladders/AL4downF.jpgurl]
#2
Thanks, that's the sort of thing I am after. Have looked at a few sites and prices seem to be around the £150 mark. I guess you could pull that up from inside but not sure how you would put it down again?

Only problem is that the space I have on the landing is about 1.5m long. ie the ladder can only be about a metre or so in horizontal length if that makes sense? Any longer and it'd be on the stairs. Think that a sliding one takes up less space? And may be easier to pull up from the top?
#3
http://www.loftshop.co.uk/products_detail.asp?catID=4&typeID=15&pID=19

I know it's not wooden but that looks like the right angle to me. I need one as close to 90 degrees as possible!
#4
I think this is simaler to the woden one above but seams quite steep IYKWIM
http://www.bpsaccesssolutions.co.uk/timberloftladders-2.jpg

Or what about this
#5
jennybubbles

Or what about this



Yeah, I've seen that one but I don't want to end up looking like the bloke in the photos!

I don't think my mrs would like that either, it's a bit scary looking! Would be perfect for the size but not very nice looking and doesn't look too safe for her to use.
#6
jennybubbles
I think this is simaler to the woden one above but seams quite steep IYKWIM
http://www.bpsaccesssolutions.co.uk/timberloftladders-2.jpg



I think they're pretty much the same, I think they both stick out slightly past the hatch if that makes sense. Meaning they are about 130cm in length. I probably don't have that much space there! If it came down to that or a metal one that was stepper I'd go for the metal one.



Whilst writing that I've just had a brain wave!!! I think you have to cut the wooden ones anyway to fit the height needed. Therefore if I cut it a bit shorter it'd be steeper right? Probably only need to take about 10cm more off of it to make it fit within about a metre. I guess the locking mechanism would still work ok?
#7
"The protective pads included are to be attached to the bottom of the ladder after adjusting the ladder length."

Seems that idea should work ok. Trying to work out if the catches holding the hatch would still reach, looks like from the first pic they'd be fine. I'm sure that would reach all the way round to 90 degrees whereas the 2nd one would probably not go as far (although far enough I think)
#8
Anyone know what's to stop the ladder folding once you're half way up? The bottom fold is in the other direction so your weight will be keeping it straight, the one on the hatch is the other way so you'd surely make it fold whilst climbing up? I guess there's a catch or something that clips into place and has to be pushed out to fold it up again.
#9
what about a rope ladder ... would be good if you hang it from one wooden supports in the loft.
thats what i would do just cause i would have fun every time i went up it....

if not then it would be a bit more expensive but see if you could get someone that can work wood to build you one of the concetena (sp?) ones as that would be perfect not sure if it would be strong enough tho
[mod]#10
Iceman1610
what about a rope ladder ...


:thumbsup: And when you're bored you can swing on it. :w00t:
#11
Iceman1610
what about a rope ladder ... would be good if you hang it from one wooden supports in the loft.
thats what i would do just cause i would have fun every time i went up it....

if not then it would be a bit more expensive but see if you could get someone that can work wood to build you one of the concetena (sp?) ones as that would be perfect not sure if it would be strong enough tho



Thanks for the suggestions, but I think I'll stick to the normal wooden one. I'll just cut it shorter so it's steeper.
#12
Syzable
:thumbsup: And when you're bored you can swing on it. :w00t:


yeah thats another good thing about a rope ladder.

Benjimoron the way the top hinge one doesnt fold down is that it the hinge has like 10 bolts on it. so it wont break and aslong as the ladder is longer than the distance from the hinge to the floor then it will swing down and form a triange with the floor.
#13
Iceman1610
yeah thats another good thing about a rope ladder.

Benjimoron the way the top hinge one doesnt fold down is that it the hinge has like 10 bolts on it. so it wont break and aslong as the ladder is longer than the distance from the hinge to the floor then it will swing down and form a triange with the floor.



Cheers,

So it doesn't fold back because it's being forced in to the ground because of your weight on it?

Interesting stuff!

Can anyone find one cheaper than £115? That's the cheapest I've found so far.
#14
HU5TLER
just dont get a metal one there **** mines is lol. yh get a wooden one theres a design where it slides up and you have a stick which you use to pull it down.


We have a metal one like that and its great, havent had a problem with it at all
#15
kelly_o_fanatic
We have a metal one like that and its great, havent had a problem with it at all



Wooden is surely alot nicer for look and feel?
#16
metal seems more secure in my opinion, and we dont have it down much so doesnt matter how it looks
#17
Wooden ladders do look nicer but tend to flex overtime more than metal.

We've just got some standard step ladders (the cheap £20 ones!) so getting into the loft can be fun and games sometimes! (Normally at christmas trying to get down the sodding tree!)
#18
I have the loft as an office and potentially a spare bedroom too (I know it's not supposed to be because of access etc) so it'll be down 99% of the time. Needs to look nice! Don't mind too much if it flexs, if it means that I'd need to buy another in 5-10 years then so be it.
#19
Benjimoron
Anyone know anything about loft ladders?

Looking for a loft ladder to make an office in the loft. Can make new loft hatch pretty much any size. Am looking for as near to vertical ladder as possible, ie takes up as little space when down as possible. Preferably in wood as it looks and feels better IMO. Ideally one that you can lift up again from the inside (although I guess that's not supposed to happen for fire risks?). Also if it could take up the smallest amount of space in the loft that would be useful, although not necessary.

Oh, and for the best price!

Any advice welcomed,
Thanks.



Yea make sure you get planin permission 1st :giggle:
#20
pavilion
Yea make sure you get planin permission 1st :giggle:



Are you joking???

I have a temporary office up there at the moment but am going to lay floorboards and platerboard ceiling etc soon. I don't need planning permission for that do I?
#21
I think you need planning permission if you intended to sell the house.

It would be worth checking the joists etc are strong enough though.....
#22
Benjimoron
Are you joking???

I have a temporary office up there at the moment but am going to lay floorboards and platerboard ceiling etc soon. I don't need planning permission for that do I?


Im not jokin you do need plannin permission. I no sumone that got ****** for it plus its got to have a window as well. do your homwork b4 you go head :thumbsup:

Use google
#23
Benjimoron
Are you joking???

I have a temporary office up there at the moment but am going to lay floorboards and platerboard ceiling etc soon. I don't need planning permission for that do I?


Just so you know, the beams in the roof are not designed for walking on, they are there primarily to support the ceilings and roof. If you are going to make this a permanent office/roof. You would be better increasing the size of these by doubling up the beams. I would advise you to talk to professionals in regard to this.

TW. I seen a great telescopic roof ladder on QVC made from aluminium with the great advantage in that it didn't take up much space when stacked away. (If that makes sense)

QVC Loft Ladder
#24
that is true they arnt meant to be supporting alot of weight, so if you are putting desks, pc's etc up there that will all be in a single spot ie the desk area. then it would be worth checking it wont fall through and hurt someone (and if you havent had planning permision etc i doubt any home insurance would pay out if it did)
#25
reason why i hate metal is its uncomfortable lol while going up bare footed although its securer but the wooden one looks so much better.
#26
mrtootough
Just so you know, the beams in the roof are not designed for walking on, they are there primarily to support the ceilings and roof. If you are going to make this a permanent office/roof. You would be better increasing the size of these by doubling up the beams. I would advise you to talk to professionals in regard to this.

TW. I seen a great telescopic roof ladder on QVC made from aluminium with the great advantage in that it didn't take up much space when stacked away. (If that makes sense)

QVC Loft Ladder



Thanks, think I prefer the wooden ones, nice idea though, if I wasn't married I would probably get that one!

I have to double the beams up anyway as I have to raise the floor level to the same as the centre beam to make a flat floor. So the beams will be doubled although I was going to do it in the opposite direction, do you think it'd be better to lay them in the same direction and then lay the floorboards on those? I was going to lay them at right angles and that would allow me to lay them closer together to make it stronger.
#27
HU5TLER
reason why i hate metal is its uncomfortable lol while going up bare footed although its securer but the wooden one looks so much better.


argeed.



dcx_badass
I use a chair or a step ladder and pull myself up, and as long as you don't try and sell it as a pernament room, theni don't think you need planning permission, as all your doing is sitting up there, not converting it.


I can jump up and down without a chair or ladder! Don't think it's best in the long run and my feet usually leave marks on the walls!

Not planning on selling it as a permenant room, if people like the look of it when viewing the house it might make them more inclined to buy. Depends what you call a conversion, there's no window or extension but a proper floor and plasterboarded ceiling.

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