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michelle2207 Avatar
6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
hi all. been decorating cakes for a while now for family and friends. been told that i should start my own business and start selling them. i appreciate their comments but i still dont feel confident enough. pls answer honestly how much u would pay for my cakes (see following posts). any feedback welcome.
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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
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#1
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/michelle2207/mrtwisterspartyandjackcakes011.jpg

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#2
You'd be better taking them to a farm shop (or somewhere similar) and ask them. At least they will be able to taste the cakes beforehand, as that's a bit hard to do on here ::whistling:

EDIT: Posted before the pics....was thinking more home-made cakes, rather than b'day cakes etc :oops:
#3
awww they are lovely if they was in a shop i would buy but as for the price i wouldnt have a clue. it all depends on how good they taste i surpose.
i do know my mate bought a birthday cake for her daughters 1st birthday and spent £60 on it and it wasnt anything special looking for that price.
#4
jellybaby22
cakes like those ones..sell in the little cake shop down the road from me for about £50...easily...

they look gorgeous...


£50 seems alot of money for a cake! :?
banned#5
very good, cales like that are really expensive, my mate got one from marks and it was like a fairy princess castle and it was just a sponge and think it was nearly £80
#6
michelle2207
£50 seems alot of money for a cake! :?


i know personally i wouldnt spend that but some do lol.i wouldnt spend any more than £25 but its each to there own.
banned#7
Taking into consideration the time to make, cost of materials and a fall back plan (Incase your dog eats it)

£35 - 60 for a personalised cake is the norm.
#9
i think what i'll do is charge a low amount say £15-£30? so i can get more practice and build up my photo collection for examples maybe......
#10
i used to know someone that did a smal cake bussiness,
make a book with a pics of all cakes you've dont in to show customers+leaflet with pics+prices etc
do markets etc every few weeks and advertise in farm shops etc :)
also could start up website
:thumbsup:
#11
Best thing is to speak to a local independent bakers shop and see about selling cakes through his business. Obviously he will want a cut but he will have access to plenty more customers. Your biggest problem in setting up will be to find enough customers to make a decent living, at £60 a cake you'll need to sell at least 1 a day to earn a living. The cakes look good and you're clearly skilled, but you will need to get some exposure before you go into sole business.
banned#12
michelle2207
i think what i'll do is charge a low amount say £15-£30? so i can get more practice and build up my photo collection for examples maybe......


i wouldnt do that, people will either think there yuck and cheap for a reason or buy and not be to happy when you double the price, start as you mean to go on and good luck :thumbsup:
#13
michelle2207
i think what i'll do is charge a low amount say £15-£30? so i can get more practice and build up my photo collection for examples maybe......


i would defo do it at the £25 to £30 mark £15 is just too low and people will always want them at that price. i agree with the comment about speaking to your local bakery.
#14
greyparrot
i would defo do it at the £25 to £30 mark £15 is just too low and people will always want them at that price. i agree with the comment about speaking to your local bakery.


I would say £25-30 is still to low, how much profit would you make at that price?
#15
If you are baking at home and selling to the public you will have to be inspected by Health and Safety too.
Your cakes look lovely by the way.
#16
Nice cakes, but lol at the ducks with liposuction:giggle:
#17
Goonieman
I would say £25-30 is still to low, how much profit would you make at that price?


i dont know to be honest but you can buy nice birthday cakes for £40 and that is m&s so at £25 to £30 that isnt bad she would have more of a chance of people buying them to try out.she cannot go charging prices like £50-£80 as she doesnt have a shop and isnt well known. you have to start small and work your way up.
#18
My sister recently paid £100 for nephews birthday cake. It was quite similiarly done.......... except that it had a mickey mouse theme to it.
I think anywhere between the £75-100 mark would seem reasonable.
#19
sassie
i wouldnt do that, people will either think there yuck and cheap for a reason or buy and not be to happy when you double the price, start as you mean to go on and good luck :thumbsup:


i was thinking that i would say there were at that low price as to build up portfolio, but yes i understand what your saying about upping the price later, i wouldnt be too chuffed if someone did that to me. lol.
#20
I would honestly say about £30 is fine, its a decent price, if you minus ingredients and work out how long it takes to make one (excluding baking time)

Check out places like Waitrose who make those sort of birthday cakes to order and they are around the £25-£35 mark (upto £50)....a friend of mine recently had a cake made privately that cost him £70 for his kids first birthday he was really dissapointed at the quality.

Its also a bit hard to gauge the size on here...are they for 6-8, 8-12 people etc?

Try some samples, approach your local bakers, see if you can put adverts up around schools, perhaps a school news letter advertisement with 10% discount. You could start low then increase until you find the right "biting" point

Good luck with it though, my partner and I are keen to do something like this as we are always cooking and baking.

:thumbsup:
#21
queenlush
If you are baking at home and selling to the public you will have to be inspected by Health and Safety too.
Your cakes look lovely by the way.


yeah. starting a business is a very scary idea. am def gonna look into it then hopefully i will be told everything i need to know and do. e.g i'm sure i'll need a food hygiene certificate.
#22
I think you need to work out exactly how much a cake costs to produce before you can put a price on them. You need to factor everything in, ingredients, fuel, your time and work out how much to charge to make it a viable business.
#23
You'd need to take account of all the costs involved (materials etc) and also little things like overheads (as simple as the cost of your oven being on for an hour, or however long it takes to bake a cake). Work out that total, then add whatever percentage you would like for profit. Then decide how much you want to be paid for your time.

Easily adds up to over £50 I'd guess?

Other than the decoration tho, the cakes will have to taste really nice!!
#24
Dannyb2007
I would honestly say about £30 is fine, its a decent price, if you minus ingredients and work out how long it takes to make one (excluding baking time)

Check out places like Waitrose who make those sort of birthday cakes to order and they are around the £25-£35 mark (upto £50)....a friend of mine recently had a cake made privately that cost him £70 for his kids first birthday he was really dissapointed at the quality.

Its also a bit hard to gauge the size on here...are they for 6-8, 8-12 people etc?

Try some samples, approach your local bakers, see if you can put adverts up around schools, perhaps a school news letter advertisement with 10% discount. You could start low then increase until you find the right "biting" point

Good luck with it though, my partner and I are keen to do something like this as we are always cooking and baking.

:thumbsup:


i never thought about how many they would feed. that would depend on if u like a big slice or not lol. i dont think i'm able to advertise am i untill i'm registered as a business?
#25
i would like to add that they taste lovely! ha ha. i could do samples for people????
#26
i personally if i was you would get my food hygiene certificate and then start giving out leaflets at local schools and even though peoples doors. then maybe look into a wedsite to sell from that way you could charge high end prices without the costs of opening a shop. i have had a quick look through google and found this cake shop that is all done homemade to order take a look at there prices it will give you an idea.http://www.thesugarfairy.co.uk/index.htm
#27
greyparrot
i personally if i was you would get my food hygiene certificate and then start giving out leaflets at local schools and even though peoples doors. then maybe look into a wedsite to sell from that way you could charge high end prices without the costs of opening a shop. i have had a quick look through google and found this cake shop that is all done homemade to order take a look at there prices it will give you an idea.http://www.thesugarfairy.co.uk/index.htm


thats great advice, thanks very much. :thumbsup:
#28
Have a look at this website

http://craftycakesofyorkshire.co.uk/default.aspx

They have lots of designs you can look at, and also a price list on the left hand side which might give you an idea.

I always think it is really hard ot make money from this sort of thing unless you can make lots of them. Maybe you could charge more for more complicated designs, like pastillage flowers, that sort of thing?
#29
Hey, How can i contact you?? Need a Cake for my daughter's 1 bday next month///

have been looking for a really yummy and no expensive cake...
#30
I think they look fantastic and you should def start a business. If you can sell them at a reasonable price you would do well as people love cakes like this for parties but often can't afford it. I would be happy to pay around £50 for a cake like that :) Where abouts do you live as would love special cakes for my kids bdays this year! x
#31
whosthere?
My sister recently paid £100 for nephews birthday cake. It was quite similiarly done.......... except that it had a mickey mouse theme to it.
I think anywhere between the £75-100 mark would seem reasonable.


for a cake?????????????? omg!
#32
We pay around £20ish for cakes very similar to those shown in pics, from a lady who appears to be in a very similar position to you (works from home etc etc). I'd say you should try to branch into weddings, we paid her over £300 for our wedding cake :w00t: and that was over £100 cheaper than the next quote

i think what i'll do is charge a low amount say £15-£30? so i can get more practice and build up my photo collection for examples maybe......


That's what I'd do. Put a very basic cake in there for £15 and charge £30 for anything complicated. £20 for a bit of lettering and a train round the edge - that sort of thing

EDIT in light of the other prices I've sen over the last 10 minutes you might be better starting at £30 :w00t:
#33
Yeah wedding cakes is a good thing to get in to as they are crazy prices so if you can undercut people you should do well :) A friends mum made mine for £100 which was £200 cheaper than I was quoted elsewhere but still made her a nice profit.
1 Like #34
mummylace
I think they look fantastic and you should def start a business. If you can sell them at a reasonable price you would do well as people love cakes like this for parties but often can't afford it. I would be happy to pay around £50 for a cake like that :) Where abouts do you live as would love special cakes for my kids bdays this year! x


Was trying to find someone in your area around the £30 mark, and found this, which might give the OP some ideas as well. (lots of pictures of past work). I'm amazed that £45-50 seems to be the going rate, I thought I was getting ripped off @ £20 LOLs

http://www.funcakes.co.uk/birthdaycakes.html

http://www.utterlyscrumptious.co.uk/sizingandprices.htm

^^ Someone else's pricing guide
#35
Johnboy_1975
Was trying to find someone in your area around the £30 mark, and found this, which might give the OP some ideas as well. (lots of pictures of past work). I'm amazed that £45-50 seems to be the going rate, I thought I was getting ripped off @ £20 LOLs

http://www.funcakes.co.uk/birthdaycakes.html

http://www.utterlyscrumptious.co.uk/sizingandprices.htm

^^ Someone else's pricing guide


Thanks very much for that :thumbsup: rep added for help x
#36
mummylace
Thanks very much for that :thumbsup: rep added for help x


You are very welcome :thumbsup: Thanks for the rep
#37
mummylace
I think they look fantastic and you should def start a business. If you can sell them at a reasonable price you would do well as people love cakes like this for parties but often can't afford it. I would be happy to pay around £50 for a cake like that :) Where abouts do you live as would love special cakes for my kids bdays this year! x


thanks. gonna make a few phone calls in the morning, find out everything i need to know/do, so fingers crossed. .......... i'm in the north east x
banned#38
Gorgeous cakes :thumbsup:
#39
Johnboy_1975
We pay around £20ish for cakes very similar to those shown in pics, from a lady who appears to be in a very similar position to you (works from home etc etc). I'd say you should try to branch into weddings, we paid her over £300 for our wedding cake :w00t: and that was over £100 cheaper than the next quote



That's what I'd do. Put a very basic cake in there for £15 and charge £30 for anything complicated. £20 for a bit of lettering and a train round the edge - that sort of thing

EDIT in light of the other prices I've sen over the last 10 minutes you might be better starting at £30 :w00t:


i feel like if i charge more than £30 it would put people off....... how can people afford to pay £50/£100 for a cake!!!!!
#40
DLM
Gorgeous cakes :thumbsup:


thankyou x

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