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Amazing story, man sells £200,000 stash of gold and gives it to charity after reading the Bible.

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2y, 2m agoPosted 2 years, 2 months ago
What an inspiration to us all, maybe the Bible does have the power to make you a better person.
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DennisG
I don't want to start a riot, but......
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.
the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person

many godless people do good in this world too. some people think their contributions are greater because they do it without being shackled by rules or ordered to by age old books

look at bill gates and all the other philanthropists, they don't use religion as the backbone of their charity. if anything, bill gates has to waste money undoing st pope JP2's great work in africa of banning condoms which would've curbed the spread of aids.

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He wished to remain anonymous too, no bragging about it!!
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nugget
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ewwaxo
nugget

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
banned 4 Likes #5
the only amazing bit is how anyone could be so stupid
4 Likes #6
I don't want to start a riot, but......
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.
the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person

many godless people do good in this world too. some people think their contributions are greater because they do it without being shackled by rules or ordered to by age old books

look at bill gates and all the other philanthropists, they don't use religion as the backbone of their charity. if anything, bill gates has to waste money undoing st pope JP2's great work in africa of banning condoms which would've curbed the spread of aids.
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DennisG
I don't want to start a riot, but......
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.
the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person

many godless people do good in this world too. some people think their contributions are greater because they do it without being shackled by rules or ordered to by age old books

look at bill gates and all the other philanthropists, they don't use religion as the backbone of their charity. if anything, bill gates has to waste money undoing st pope JP2's great work in africa of banning condoms which would've curbed the spread of aids.

http://media.tumblr.com/5992518e63a03f648324371fd99b346b/tumblr_inline_n6mkrg0FRf1sgkwz9.gif
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All I am saying is the Bible inspired him to do a good thing.
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airfix
All I am saying is the Bible inspired him to do a good thing.
Was a selfish thing really as he only donated it so he could have eternal happiness i.e "Treasure in heaven"
1 Like #10
maybe the Bible does have the power to make you a better person.

Or maybe not.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#List_of_major_religious_wars

Obviously a bit tongue in cheek that response, as the person in the story has clearly decided a set of moral values they want to live by that are praiseworthy. However at the end of the day religious texts tend to be a cause and justification for people to be unpleasant towards others at varying degrees. Take the Westboro morons or some of the idiots in the middle east at the minute using religion for their own gains as in both cases there is clear evidence that they are not using religious ideology to better anything other than to push an agenda.
1 Like #11
I'm guessing this chap focused on the New Testament when he made the donation.
4 Likes #12
better than the rich sods.
I'm donating £450 this week to poor people and to widowed wife. They all get a share.

oh actually I'm a Muslim too and it's Ramadan. so I have to donate.
The widowed is my aunt.
banned#13
Haha what an idiot!
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Funnily enough I read Jack and the Beanstalk last week then decided to germinate a few bean seeds, I guess fairy tales have the power to inspire us all.
#15
And the same applies to the none religious, people are people some are nice some are not but all willfind something to justify their actions

DennisG
I don't want to start a riot, but......
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.
the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person

many godless people do good in this world too. some people think their contributions are greater because they do it without being shackled by rules or ordered to by age old books

look at bill gates and all the other philanthropists, they don't use religion as the backbone of their charity. if anything, bill gates has to waste money undoing st pope JP2's great work in africa of banning condoms which would've curbed the spread of aids.
#16
Some might argue that the money might be used to pay legal and compensation bills for all they rapey pedophiles that abused children in churches!
#17
its about time we had another one of these threads.....................
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airfix
He wished to remain anonymous too, no bragging about it!!
They only boast of Christ.

Their giving must always be hidden ( "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" Mathew 6,3 ), as the glory should always go to God.
Thus the giver serves God and stores up riches for himself in Heaven ( that is heavenly riches - not worldly riches).


If he gives 'openly' to gain from men then he has already had his reward on Earth.

Any reward on Earth is ultimately worthless in comparison to the eternal reward in Heaven.

That's why they give anonymously. (hope this helps peeps understand a bit more about this person's actions).


Edited By: tryn2help on Jul 03, 2014 23:58
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DennisG
I don't want to start a riot, but......
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.
the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person

many godless people do good in this world too. some people think their contributions are greater because they do it without being shackled by rules or ordered to by age old books

look at bill gates and all the other philanthropists, they don't use religion as the backbone of their charity. if anything, bill gates has to waste money undoing st pope JP2's great work in africa of banning condoms which would've curbed the spread of aids.
Hardly countless millions for every crusade or even Jihad never mind for every one person that gives to the poor.
But, if you believe what you say then you will be able to produce the concrete evidence that backs up the numbers you mention in relation to crusades, jihads and one single giver.

Try studying the crusades, try looking at how the rich and powerful of the time went after the lands and everything in them, even agreeing as to who was getting what - and the eventual failures because they betrayed each other over who got what, and try looking at how they manipulated the ignorant peasants into doing the fighting for them.
Try remembering that peasants back then could neither read the Bible (it was written in Latin) nor understand it and had to rely entirely on their 'betters' to inform them, and please do try to remember that their betters didn't actually use anything written in the Bible to send the misinformed poor into battle.
They could have told them any old thing, heck, they could have said there were millions of hidden 'weapons of mass destruction'.

Sadly, that you should refer to the crusades with such blatant ignorance is as much as we can expect from the poorly educated public these days, and the 'pulled out of the air' mathematics used in your 'countless millions for every one' quote pale into insignificance in the light of the staggering ignorance displayed in your finishing statement; 'the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person'.

My dear friend, anyone who has spent any time at all studying these things can see at a glance that you have spent little to no time at all studying these things, and yet you think yourself informed enough to comment on them.
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What a heartwarming story. Whether you believe in God or not stories like this show that religion can be a cause of good and a belief in a higher power caused this man, and countless others, to do a good deed. Even if you think it's all rubbish a lot of lives will be better off thanks to his faith and surely that's the most important thing
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UnicornRiver
airfix
All I am saying is the Bible inspired him to do a good thing.
Was a selfish thing really as he only donated it so he could have eternal happiness i.e "Treasure in heaven"

I'd take such 'selfish' individuals everyday of the week. He did it out of goodwill. Maybe he expect something better in return, so what? You need to Look at the bigger picture.
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tryn2help
DennisG
I don't want to start a riot, but......
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.
the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person

many godless people do good in this world too. some people think their contributions are greater because they do it without being shackled by rules or ordered to by age old books

look at bill gates and all the other philanthropists, they don't use religion as the backbone of their charity. if anything, bill gates has to waste money undoing st pope JP2's great work in africa of banning condoms which would've curbed the spread of aids.
Hardly countless millions for every crusade or even Jihad never mind for every one person that gives to the poor.
But, if you believe what you say then you will be able to produce the concrete evidence that backs up the numbers you mention in relation to crusades, jihads and one single giver.

Try studying the crusades, try looking at how the rich and powerful of the time went after the lands and everything in them, even agreeing as to who was getting what - and the eventual failures because they betrayed each other over who got what, and try looking at how they manipulated the ignorant peasants into doing the fighting for them.
Try remembering that peasants back then could neither read the Bible (it was written in Latin) nor understand it and had to rely entirely on their 'betters' to inform them, and please do try to remember that their betters didn't actually use anything written in the Bible to send the misinformed poor into battle.
They could have told them any old thing, heck, they could have said there were millions of hidden 'weapons of mass destruction'.

Sadly, that you should refer to the crusades with such blatant ignorance is as much as we can expect from the poorly educated public these days, and the 'pulled out of the air' mathematics used in your 'countless millions for every one' quote pale into insignificance in the light of the staggering ignorance displayed in your finishing statement; 'the same thing that has the power to make you a better person also has the power to make you a worse person'.

My dear friend, anyone who has spent any time at all studying these things can see at a glance that you have spent little to no time at all studying these things, and yet you think yourself informed enough to comment on them.
Maybe you should learn to read before commenting

for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000

not Hardly countless millions for every crusade or even Jihad never mind for every one person that gives to the poor.
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In other news; Men at Vatican read Bible and decide that their gold is better left where it is.
2 Likes #24
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.
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jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.


it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.
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ewwaxo
jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.

it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.

He's going to be pretty **** when he finds out there isn't an after life.
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ewwaxo
jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.

it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.
It can seem that way, but those who believe Jesus believe in something greater than the immediate perception of what we refer to as 'reality'.

In our present 'reality' it's often almost like dog eat dog as everyone clambers over each other in an effort to get to the top to try to ensure some type of security.
There is an obvious amount of violence in that model of 'reality' and some of it can of course be hoped to be avoided by trade-offs - so, yes I can see where you're coming from, but in the 'reality' of Jesus, worldly riches are worthless and can't buy anything in Heaven.

Rather, worldly riches are for the world and the people in the world, and it's up to the individual how they use these worldly riches.
But, ultimately even for those who opt to reject Jesus' reality in favour of the worldly reality will come to the point
where they realise how worthless their riches actually are when they lay on their deathbed.
#28
I thought it was a breath of fresh air to read it in the newspapers, especially after all the dreadful stories about religion and whats going on in Iraq and the Middle East. It just shows the two ends of the spectrum, I mean young people from Bradford going to fight against an enemy who are killing their Muslim brothers and not even realizing the 'enemy' are also of the same religion. It's just so depressing what the influence of a holy book can achieve.
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Thats great thats almost enough to pay the CEO of Oxfam his yearly salary. Not really enough but it will be a start.
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airfix
I thought it was a breath of fresh air to read it in the newspapers, especially after all the dreadful stories about religion and whats going on in Iraq and the Middle East. It just shows the two ends of the spectrum, I mean young people from Bradford going to fight against an enemy who are killing their Muslim brothers and not even realizing the 'enemy' are also of the same religion. It's just so depressing what the influence of a holy book can achieve.
even more depressing to read that the uk and us had planned to fund and train these nutters

didnt we arm the taliban too?
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jaybear88
In other news; Men at Vatican read Bible and decide that their gold is better left where it is.

I expect they do actually read the Bible, but I'm not so sure they use it to determine where to put their worldly riches.

In fairness to them, and to many other religious movements, they do have a track record of putting vast amounts towards poverty, education and support etc, but they tend not to shout from the rooftops about it ( the Vatican in keeping with Mathew 6;3, and other religions with similar texts in their holy scriptures).
However, in this world any good news is always ignored in favour of bad news, because only bad news makes the news.

But I do take your point Jaybear, that they might be more concerned with their riches than their followers (if that is indeed your point?).
Alas, when we look through history we find this sort of thing (ungodly selfishness) rages rampant in almost every religious - and indeed non-religious - establishment.
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airfix
I thought it was a breath of fresh air to read it in the newspapers, especially after all the dreadful stories about religion and whats going on in Iraq and the Middle East. It just shows the two ends of the spectrum, I mean young people from Bradford going to fight against an enemy who are killing their Muslim brothers and not even realizing the 'enemy' are also of the same religion. It's just so depressing what the influence of a holy book can achieve.
I'm no authority on the Koran (or indeed any Holy book), but from the little I have read I cannot say with any certainty that those following the violent path do so because they were influenced by the Koran.
Rather, when the Koran (like most Holy books) is read in context it becomes clear that the underlying but overall message is one of love and peace.

However, this message (for whatever reason) is often lost to mankind.
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DennisG
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.

tryn2help
Hardly countless millions for every crusade or even Jihad never mind for every one person that gives to the poor.

I didn't say there were millions for every jihad.
I didn't say there were millions of fighters of holy wars for every person who gives to the poor.

By this point your argument had already lost weight but I thought I'd read the rest of it just to humour you.

It amused me how you portrayed yourself as an expert and assumed I know nothing about these things.
Just by bandying around terms like staggering ignorance and poorly education, you think you qualify yourself as the one true voice and opinion of all matters on this subject. There are many people who will agree with that statement. There are countless examples that prove it throughout history. It's people like you who read what I have written and refer to that line as my 'finishing statement' who, to me, display 'staggering ignorance and poor education' because, if you look carefully, that was only the 2nd of 4 points I made, but don't let this 'pulled out of the air' mathematics confuse you.
And just because you think you know a little bit about this pocket of history, you shouldn't walk around with an air of superiority, because there are plenty more people out there who know more than you, not just of that subject, but across the rich tapestry of human knowledge. And soon enough, your terms of 'staggering ignorance and poor education' will come back and bite you.

Anyway, the internet is not the place to engage narrow-minded, sanctimonious, deluded geniuses, so I am taking leave of this thread. You can continue to argue in silence.
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tryn2help
jaybear88
In other news; Men at Vatican read Bible and decide that their gold is better left where it is.

I expect they do actually read the Bible, but I'm not so sure they use it to determine where to put their worldly riches.

In fairness to them, and to many other religious movements, they do have a track record of putting vast amounts towards poverty, education and support etc, but they tend not to shout from the rooftops about it ( the Vatican in keeping with Mathew 6;3, and other religions with similar texts in their holy scriptures).
However, in this world any good news is always ignored in favour of bad news, because only bad news makes the news.

But I do take your point Jaybear, that they might be more concerned with their riches than their followers (if that is indeed your point?).
Alas, when we look through history we find this sort of thing (ungodly selfishness) rages rampant in almost every religious - and indeed non-religious - establishment.

Agreed - we see this kind of thing everywhere, but it's just that much more infuriating when someone becomes rich under the pretense of protecting the poor. I was really just pointing out that simply being a Christian or reading the Bible has as much to do with being a better person as having a car means that you will visit London; it can be used as a vehicle to achieve it, but in no way does it mean it will happen, nor is it the only means to do so. Religion can make a good person better, but it can also make a bad person worse.
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ewwaxo
jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.

it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.

So you don't really see it as a selfless act?
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jaybear88
ewwaxo
jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.

it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.

So you don't really see it as a selfless act?


absolutely not. he said it himself as well.
#37
ewwaxo
jaybear88
ewwaxo
jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.

it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.

So you don't really see it as a selfless act?

absolutely not. he said it himself as well.

Fair enough, I agree but see it from DarkEye's POV - if everyone spent their lives doing good, the belief that they'll be rewarded is all but irrelevant.
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jaybear88
ewwaxo
jaybear88
ewwaxo
jaybear88
Fair play to the guy though; it's always good to see someone reading a holy text and taking some good from it.

it seems though that he is investing in a treasure in the after life though.

So you don't really see it as a selfless act?

absolutely not. he said it himself as well.

Fair enough, I agree but see it from DarkEye's POV - if everyone spent their lives doing good, the belief that they'll be rewarded is all but irrelevant.

hmmm.. a one up for religion then. (_;)
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DennisG
DennisG
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.

tryn2help
Hardly countless millions for every crusade or even Jihad never mind for every one person that gives to the poor.

I didn't say there were millions for every jihad.
I didn't say there were millions of fighters of holy wars for every person who gives to the poor.

By this point your argument had already lost weight but I thought I'd read the rest of it just to humour you.

It amused me how you portrayed yourself as an expert and assumed I know nothing about these things.
Just by bandying around terms like staggering ignorance and poorly education, you think you qualify yourself as the one true voice and opinion of all matters on this subject. There are many people who will agree with that statement. There are countless examples that prove it throughout history. It's people like you who read what I have written and refer to that line as my 'finishing statement' who, to me, display 'staggering ignorance and poor education' because, if you look carefully, that was only the 2nd of 4 points I made, but don't let this 'pulled out of the air' mathematics confuse you.
And just because you think you know a little bit about this pocket of history, you shouldn't walk around with an air of superiority, because there are plenty more people out there who know more than you, not just of that subject, but across the rich tapestry of human knowledge. And soon enough, your terms of 'staggering ignorance and poor education' will come back and bite you.

Anyway, the internet is not the place to engage narrow-minded, sanctimonious, deluded geniuses, so I am taking leave of this thread. You can continue to argue in silence.
DennisG
DennisG
for every one person who reads the bible and donates £200,000, there are countless millions who go on crusades and jihads.

tryn2help
Hardly countless millions for every crusade or even Jihad never mind for every one person that gives to the poor.

I didn't say there were millions for every jihad.
I didn't say there were millions of fighters of holy wars for every person who gives to the poor.

By this point your argument had already lost weight but I thought I'd read the rest of it just to humour you.

It amused me how you portrayed yourself as an expert and assumed I know nothing about these things.
Just by bandying around terms like staggering ignorance and poorly education, you think you qualify yourself as the one true voice and opinion of all matters on this subject. There are many people who will agree with that statement. There are countless examples that prove it throughout history. It's people like you who read what I have written and refer to that line as my 'finishing statement' who, to me, display 'staggering ignorance and poor education' because, if you look carefully, that was only the 2nd of 4 points I made, but don't let this 'pulled out of the air' mathematics confuse you.
And just because you think you know a little bit about this pocket of history, you shouldn't walk around with an air of superiority, because there are plenty more people out there who know more than you, not just of that subject, but across the rich tapestry of human knowledge. And soon enough, your terms of 'staggering ignorance and poor education' will come back and bite you.

Anyway, the internet is not the place to engage narrow-minded, sanctimonious, deluded geniuses, so I am taking leave of this thread. You can continue to argue in silence.
Sorry my post annoyed you DennisG, and sincere apologies for any offence caused.

As to exactly what you and I have written, people can read it and make their own minds up.
#40
I see no problem with someone singling out a peaceful excerpt from a religious text and acting on it, while ignoring the violence. We need to focus on those who wish to impose the entirety of the text, as the barbaric acts described have no place in the world today.

If someone said they wanted to enforce the punishments described in the Old Testament, I would recommend reporting them to the police to prevent inhumane acts from being carried out.

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