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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
Me and my 2 friends were in college today and at dinner we were walking through the town center when 3 chavs approached us and starting spitting spit balls at us so my mate turned around and asked him what he was doing but they carried on walking then 2 minutes later we seen them following us in every shop we went in and when it was time to go back to college we had to go down a back street were they ran behind us and fronted us, my mate who said something was panicking but stayed there and it was like 3 of us looking at 3 of them and the next thing one of the lads smacks me mate in the jay and he goes down like a sack of potatoes and the lads just ran away, should i of helped and tried to help my mate by hitting the lads even though i knew we wouldn't win as they were about 19 and 6 foot and were 17 and 5'8/9
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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
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#1
violence is not the answer...
no one got hurt (majorly) this way and no legal problems either
i think you did the wise thing, don't consider this incedent as being "walked over" by thugs...
in 5 years when you graduate, have a nice paying job, a driving a nice car, and living in a nice house, the tables will be turned, and they woun't even matter....

so why bother?
(same applies to your friend... better not to get into these "kid issues" and unnecessary violence when you are so young, and its not worth it)

Look at the bigger picture... trust me, when you are 27 and not 17 anymore, you'll look back and feel sorry for them
#2
tbh you did the best thing 10 years ago i thin it might have been ok to knock seven barrels of s**t out of them.

However the amount of people who carry knives, you could have been looking at something far more serious than a black eye!
#3
As the other replies have already said, you did the right thing. Maybe if they were really laying into your mate and kicking the c**p out of him, then it would have been time to step in, but as they ran away, it's always best to leave it at that as you never know what could happen next and things could end a lot worse.

If you've got a good enough description, you could always ring the police and report it, but it's unlikely they'd get them now as tomorrow they'll be in different clothes, but it still might be worth doing :thumbsup:
#4
Ive been in this postion before when i was younger 15,16 and I didnt do nothing, and you feel guilty afterwards.

Its debatable what the right thing to do was weither to help him or not

next time im going to help, even if i do (most likey WILL) get my ass wooped:oops:
#5
so what now - avoid the town centre until your in your mid twenties and get the last laugh good job guys good advice
#6
I think you did the right thing, difficult as it is when your mates are involved, but things could and probably would of got very out of hand.
#7
lets just hope the guy that punched your m8 gets karma and dies a horrible death.
#8
ttsese
so what now - avoid the town centre until your in your mid twenties and get the last laugh good job guys good advice



It's very unlikely that these idiots are going to be in town every time that he goes in, and no one said avoid town. Basically, just put it down to experience, although not a nice one, as it looks like they were the target today. Tomorrow, it will more than likely be someone else.

So you're saying the best thing he could have done was stepped in, made the whole situation worse and made sure that all 3 of them were actually given a proper kicking from the chavs instead, assuming that none of the chavs had a knife on them. Personally, I'd say that wasn't the greatest advice :?
#9
It is easy after an event like this to get annoyed that the big guys always seem to win.

The thing to remember is that scum like this dont get away with it forever.

One day their behaviour will get caught on camera and they will get arrested.

Then they will finish up in borstal, then prison, and then on the scrapheap.

They will probably finish up as crack addicts in some gutter somewhere.
#10
all the advice seems sensible.
I'm tempted to tell you that you are wrong and you should've lamped them.
But i won't
Good job :thumbsup:
banned#11
I had something similar happen to me when I was about 16. There were 2 14 yo ish chavs making out that they were going to thump me. I just stood there unconcerned ('cos I would have beaten the poo out of them), then out of nowhere, this big lump jumped in and I ended up with the biggest shiner Ive ever had. Not a thing I could do. I was with some younger lads, but they legged it!

I knew of the guy that did it (and everyone said there was zero I could have done). About 6 months later - and him forgetting me and the incident, I spotted him in a phonebox. He was a fair bit bigger than me, but I opened the door and laid into him bigtime. He had nowhere to go and just had to take everything he got. He was blubbering like a baby. It was at that time I decided to make a retreat. It had been timed to perfection and I escaped on a bus with him chasing after me!

Probably not the wisest thing Ive ever done, but boy did I feel good about it afterwards! ;-) Thats a big problem with me though - I wont back down!

Luckily, I saw him not long after and he had no idea it was me. ;-)
#12
guv
I had something similar happen to me when I was about 16. There were 2 14 yo ish chavs making out that they were going to thump me. I just stood there unconcerned ('cos I would have beaten the poo out of them), then out of nowhere, this big lump jumped in and I ended up with the biggest shiner Ive ever had. Not a thing I could do. I was with some younger lads, but they legged it!

I knew of the guy that did it (and everyone said there was zero I could have done). About 6 months later - and him forgetting me and the incident, I spotted him in a phonebox. He was a fair bit bigger than me, but I opened the door and laid into him bigtime. He had nowhere to go and just had to take everything he got. He was blubbering like a baby. It was at that time I decided to make a retreat. It had been timed to perfection and I escaped on a bus with him chasing after me!

Probably not the wisest thing Ive ever done, but boy did I feel good about it afterwards! ;-) Thats a big problem with me though - I wont back down!

Luckily, I saw him not long after and he had no idea it was me. ;-)


haha legend!:-D
#13
Thanks for the advice guys im not as wound up now, i have no doubt i could have took them 1v1 as im well built and wont go down unless there was 2 of them on to me but my mates aren't the biggest of lads so i guess your right that i did the right thing.
#14
It's a shame none of the shops they followed you into sold baseball bats...

Seriously, though, the problem is you don't know if they were 'tooled-up' or not and it could easily have ended up with you or one of your mates either in hospital or worse. Try not to feel guilty as your mate was the one who stopped and faced them off, you didn't make that decision for him! I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame either of you for not chasing after them, if they had continued to hit him then that's a different story, but they ran off like the cowards they are!

At the end of the day you need to let thigns like this go or it just eats away
#15
This sort of thing is becoming more and more common.:x

Is anybody else sick and tired of it?

I think that a lot of kids/teens just have no respect at all.

This yob mentality is prevelant in most areas near me.

The students and goths seem to get it all the time,
a few times I have been like on the train or bus and loads of kids have picked on the lone goth/student.
Afterwards I feel angry/guilty for not helping out and feel really sorry for the poor person
attacked.
The strange thing is it happened to me on a bus a while ago and no-one helped me.
Its not as if i think "im not helping them as no-one helped me"
Weird!:oops:
#16
Ye there were like 10 people walking past us when it happened and they just carried on with there heads down, not every person would step in though although some would.
#17
yeah i wouldn't bother starting anything, cus they would only come back next time with 7 or 8 or more guys..
#18
my mate was pounced on by older teen boys on a 600cc motorbike, having stopped at a traffic lights. yes in broad daylight and busy area etc, two held him down so he couldnt move much whilst one tried to grab his helmet off - of course it's buckled so they couldnt get it off. he's a big guy and they struggled a bit but he wasn't off his bike and he couldnt ride off because of crossing pedestrians and they weren't helping. someone at nearby shops called police, kids fled but before they did ... my mate with wearing bike gloves with hard knuckles punched his chin enough to stun him but not hurt his pretty face, they ran but one managed to grab keys off the ignition so bike couldnt go anywhere needed to be pushed to side. police came and helped but nobody stopped - which was the other amazing thing - public apathy in london, minding own business pretending nothing major happened or just advocating a culture of crime.

i mean what does it take a crowd (busy human traffic in area) to get these three boys down and arrested? even with odds with the crowd, they're just floppy squids with no backbone.

forgot to add: years ago when i was travelling in bali, the people there told me in the old days they had a couple thieves (it was easy to nab them as everyone knew each other) to deal with. this is what they did: stripped both man and woman naked, paraded them around town on the pickup truck then place them in the town square, squatting and hands tied loosely behind their back. where everyone could spit on them for doing the unthinkable.

any wonder why it's safe in dubai too? they cut your hands off if you stole.

we don't need extremes but some basic common sense is definitely lacking in this country methinks.
#19
join the gym and start cage fighting. thats my plan anyway :D
#20
I don't think people not helping anymore is down to no one caring, I think it's more down to the fact you pick up a paper or hear on the news far too often these days that someone was stabbed to death in a fight, stabbed for asking teenagers to be quiet in residential areas, stabbed for interviening in a fight and so on and so on.

It's not the thought of someone smacking me one that would stop me offering help, it's the thought of what they might be carrying on them. You just never know these days :-(
#21
dcx_badass
Why did you go down the back alley when you knew you were been followed....not the brightest idea.


Its the only way back to cllege and its not like a back alley well it is but behind a load of shops but like its never empty theres always at least 5 people walking down it at any given time.
#22
ZoLa__;1642370
join the gym and start cage fighting. thats my plan anyway :D

my idea too, well not the cage fight
join gym get lean like a fighting machine next time they or anyone confronts u with threatening behaviour lamp them
believe me its either u get smacked or they do, why give them first strike?
do not ever square up to someone if you dont intend on hitting them, they will catch u off guard, remember strike while the irons hot, using this mentality also gets your clothes nice and straight :)
#23
Ye i go the gym
#24
its 100% better to do Thai boxing or Judo or some sort then to join a gym.
#25
harvie316
its 100% better to do Thai boxing or Judo or some sort then to join a gym.


fact?:w00t:

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