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8y, 11m agoPosted 8 years, 11 months ago
sorry i did have another thread i created but cant seem to find it.

My uncles friend is going to New york for christmas so i thought it would be a good time for me to get a dslr from b&h.

At the moment my first choice is the pentax k100d super with kit lens which can be had for $500 ~ £250. i have been checking the site allmost everyday and they allways seem to be out of stock. I can get the k100d super [U without a lens for $470 ~ £235. If the k100d kit isnt in stock would it be worth me getting the one without a kit? i dont want to spend too much on a lens as im new to dslr. how much would a deacent lens cost?

I also had a look at the olympus Evolt E-510, its £50 more thek the k100d kit but the features look better. does any one have one of these?

Thanks
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8y, 11m agoPosted 8 years, 11 months ago
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My friend just bought the E3 n it's Superb.....
I'm going to buy the Sony a700 when price drops as I got Minolta lenses..
If you buy in USA there will be NO Warranty on it...So think twice n seriously before buying...Any Defects n you'll have to go back to USA to get it fixed..

The E510 is supposed to be better than the k100d. The k10d is better than the k100d..
Go to dpreview.com and have a good read n ask questions in the forums.
Good Luck
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Hi, i found out the pentax will provide you with an international warranty card if purchased in the us so warranty wont be a problem. im going to ask on dpreview aswell but does any one no if the olympus Evolt E-510 will be compatible with other makes of lens such as sigma for example?
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You can use Sigma lenses provided it is made for the Pentax lens mounting. Sigma make a lens and tend to do it with various lens mounts for the different camera manufacturers usually Canon and Nikon. Lens mounts tend to be proprietary to each camera manufacturer
#4
I'm personally a big fan of 4/3, I currently have the E-1, E-330, E-500, E-510, E-3 and Panasonic L1. Lenses wise I have all the kit lenses apart from the 40-150mm mk II (14-42mm, 14-45mm, 17.5-45mm and 40-150mm) plus the ZD 14-54mm, Leica D 14-50mm, ZD 12-60mm, Sigma 30mm, ZD 50mm, ZD 50-200mm, Sigma 50-500mm, ZD EC-14, ZD EC-20 (the two teleconverters) and the two flashes (FL-36 and FL-50). For the last six months or so I've been primarily using the E-510 which I think is a good all round camera, the onboard IS is extremely handy and the two kit lenses are small, light and well regarded for their high quality as kit lenses. The 4/3 sensor is slightly smaller than in Canon/Nikon/Pentax crop SLRs which means the high ISO performance isn't quite as good and at default settings the dynamic range is slightly less as well although you do get the benefit of slightly greater depth of field. The default settings aren't great either, the noise filter in particular is set too high which means it scrubs too much detail. The two lenses gives you a good coverage from 28 to 300mm (equivalent), if you go for this pack that would do you for a while without needing an immediate lens purchase.

The E-510 is a 4/3 compatible body which means it will take any 4/3 lens - those are primarily the Zuiko Digitals but there are a few Sigma lenses as well. You need to check the lens comes in a 4/3 version (rather than Canon, Nikon, Pentax or SA mount), not all of them do. Neither Tamron or Tokina currently produce lenses for 4/3.

I'm not sure how familiar with SLR cameras so ignore the following if you're familiar with it already. Each SLR manufacturer has their own lens system which is primarily Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony (formerly Minolta), 4/3 and Sigma SA (they have their own lens system as well as producing lenses for other companies). Fuji don't have their own mount, they use their sensors in a reworked version of a Nikon body. You can't use the different lenses on different companies, so you can't put a Canon lens on the E-510, nor can you put a 4/3 lens on a Nikon body.

This means you have to be careful when choosing a body because it's not just the body you're choosing, you're buying into a system as well. Take a careful look at the types of lenses you are interested in for each system to see which suits you better.

John
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Hi well im failry new to dslr but have used film slrs before. The one i am thinking about buying comes with a "[SIZE=2]14-42 mm f 3.5-5.6 Zuiko Digital Zoom Lens", mainly i will be taking photos of architecture and a few pictures of family. would the above lens be ok for that?

thanks everyone will leave rep
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#6
The 14-42mm lens is one of the best kit lenses on the market, it's extremely small and light plus the quality from it is very good. With the E-510 having in body IS you also get the benefits of image stabilisation with this lens.

In 35mm terms the lens covers 28-84mm giving you a reasonable wide angle for shooting buildings and people although something to bear in mind is that if you want to go wider than this your options are limited and relatively expensive. The 11-22mm is around the 500 pound mark, while it's a very good lens it is expensive - unfortunately Sigma don't make any of their wide angle lenses for 4/3 (such as the 10-20mm), depending on how wide you are planning on shooting you might need to take this into consideration.

John
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The pentax k100 is a Samsung body i believe, so its not great, the K10 however is not, and far far better.

i'd go for the olympus, you may not yet have the super wide lens, but you'll probley find that the 14-42mm kit lens is more than fine. I like it as it feels a lot like the old OM series.

I suppose you could consider the 400D, but thats a bit of an obvious choice, although you do get the benefit of a full canon+sigma lens range.
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thanks, ending up going for the olympus.
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Jonster
The pentax k100 is a Samsung body i believe, so its not great, the K10 however is not, and far far better.

i'd go for the olympus, you may not yet have the super wide lens, but you'll probley find that the 14-42mm kit lens is more than fine. I like it as it feels a lot like the old OM series.

I suppose you could consider the 400D, but thats a bit of an obvious choice, although you do get the benefit of a full canon+sigma lens range.


Other way round, Samsung basically rebadge the Pentax body and kit lens - it is actually a Pentax body and lens, Samsung have no involvement with the hardware itelf. There is also a Samsung version of the K10D known as the GX-10. Apparently this to allow Samsung to build brand familiarity before they launch into their own SLRs.

John
#10
ah my bad, i knew they were related somehow. Im still unsure with Samsungs as cameras anyway, their NV series despite having some cool features, never really convinced where it matters - the picture quality.

Im sticking with my 20D for the time being anyway.
#11
I definitely agree, I'm puzzled by their strategy really - the Pentax and Samsung cameras are pretty much identical apart from slight firmware differences, even the cost from what I've seen seems to be very similar. They seem to have gone to all this effort to provide the rebranded Pentax cameras then done nothing to separate themselves.

The daft thing is I think it would be easy for Samsung to do so, in general they tend to provide devices which are 'flashy' whereas Pentax as a brand could be conveyed as being slightly dull. Samsung could easily do something like add a bright, high resolution screen, hdmi output etc. the sort of features that would attract buyers while keeping the heart of the camera Pentax.

John
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[SIZE=4]Hi, one last question. is it worth me spending an extra £45 to also get a [/SIZE][SIZE=4]40-150 mm Lens ?[/SIZE]
#13
Up to you really - the 14-42mm kit lens gives you coverage from 28-84mm which is wide to normal range. The 40-150mm then takes up you to 300mm (equivalent), personally I think for 45 pounds it's well worth taking as it's a very compact telephoto lens (although its aperture is not very wide) and give you a very useful combined focal length.

John
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phoenix123
[SIZE=4]Hi, one last question. is it worth me spending an extra £45 to also get a [/SIZE][SIZE=4]40-150 mm Lens ?[/SIZE]


If its only £45 more, I'd say go for it. You never know when it will come in handy - though you would be using the standard lens for pretty much everything.

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