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With a report which took evidence and with representation by Labour, SNP and Tories Corbyn still wont accept his failure - simply because he doesnt understand leadership but does understand the value … Read More
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8m, 6d agoPosted 8 months, 6 days ago
With a report which took evidence and with representation by Labour, SNP and Tories Corbyn still wont accept his failure - simply because he doesnt understand leadership but does understand the value of bullying.

Among its findings were:

- Labour MP Luciana Berger received more than 2,500 abusive tweets in three days in 2014

- Since walking out of the launch of a report on anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, the Jewish Labour MP Ruth Smeeth has reported more than 25,000 incidents of abuse

- Police-recorded anti-Semitic hate crime in England and some parts of Wales increased by 29% between 2010 and 2015, compared with a 9% increase across all hate crime categories

- A fifth of British Jewish people responding to an Institute for Jewish Policy Research study had experienced at least one anti-Semitic harassment incident during the last year, with 68% of incidents taking place online
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30 Likes
More corbyn bashing - yawn
8 Likes
Labour are 100% finished & will never win another election.
They have been the laughing stock of Westminster for many years now & rightly so.
Seriously, how can you take Labour serious when the leader hangs around with IRA terrorists & then sticks 2 fingers up at "our" Queen.
Remove the idiot & start again !!
6 Likes
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.
5 Likes
Spasho
Error440
davewave
sofiasar
everyone knows how much you love conservatives! anything negative about corbyn your cage rattles in joy!
Tories can at least raise themselves above terroristic support, Corbyn is a very dangerous and influential man.
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Government cuts.

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30 Likes #2
More corbyn bashing - yawn
#3
Wonderlust7
More corbyn bashing - yawn
Yeah - Anti-semitism is the only bigotry by a major party which Corbynistas and Labour politicians revel in!
6 Likes #5
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.
3 Likes #6
they also asked shami some questions. she failed to answer them and ignored requests. amazing human rights activist, she went running to get in the lord's after her white wash enquiry. if this happened in America we would be laughing at them.
8 Likes #7
Labour are 100% finished & will never win another election.
They have been the laughing stock of Westminster for many years now & rightly so.
Seriously, how can you take Labour serious when the leader hangs around with IRA terrorists & then sticks 2 fingers up at "our" Queen.
Remove the idiot & start again !!
#8
davewave
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.

Because it's obviously better to just put our fingers in our ears and blindlessly bomb people because we don't like what they're saying...
2 Likes #9
WheresMeNuts
Labour are 100% finished & will never win another election.
They have been the laughing stock of Westminster for many years now & rightly so.
Seriously, how can you take Labour serious when the leader hangs around with IRA terrorists & then sticks 2 fingers up at "our" Queen.
Remove the idiot & start again !!


the problem is, he as the mandate of the members, so he is in bubble, I don't personally know anyone who will vote for him, I can't say that about any leader of any party ever.
2 Likes #10
shadey12
WheresMeNuts
Labour are 100% finished & will never win another election.
They have been the laughing stock of Westminster for many years now & rightly so.
Seriously, how can you take Labour serious when the leader hangs around with IRA terrorists & then sticks 2 fingers up at "our" Queen.
Remove the idiot & start again !!
the problem is, he as the mandate of the members, so he is in bubble, I don't personally know anyone who will vote for him, I can't say that about any leader of any party ever.
Why do they have him as leader ?
They obviously must know they can't won anything with him as leader & that's nothing short of weird thinking/planning.

Maybe as long as they pick-up a **** each week, that's all they care for :-/
#11
P A Y C H E C K <------ classed as swear word on here lol.
3 Likes #12
WheresMeNuts
P A Y C H E C K <------ classed as swear word on here lol.
Pay cheque... Seems to work if you spell it correctly. ;)

Edited By: stuarthanley on Oct 16, 2016 09:52
banned 3 Likes #13
everyone knows how much you love conservatives! anything negative about corbyn your cage rattles in joy!
#14
Brexit let people speak their mind, at least for the white majority who feel they have had there lives stitched closed for the last 10 years. Its hardly going to be popular for Corbyn or anyone else to come out as the PC police.

I think racism etc. will go up and down over the next few years and eventually find a level.

Just let it play out and accept that you know what's right or wrong for you. I think trying to be the boss of it will only cause you trouble and headaches, life's to short.

Edited By: groenleader on Oct 16, 2016 09:55
#15
stuarthanley
WheresMeNuts
P A Y C H E C K <------ classed as swear word on here lol.
Pay cheque... Seems to work if you spell it correctly. ;)
It's all one word lol.
1 Like #16
WheresMeNuts
stuarthanley
WheresMeNuts
P A Y C H E C K <------ classed as swear word on here lol.
Pay cheque... Seems to work if you spell it correctly. ;)
It's all one word lol.
Paycheque
3 Likes #17
stuarthanley
WheresMeNuts
stuarthanley
WheresMeNuts
P A Y C H E C K <------ classed as swear word on here lol.
Pay cheque... Seems to work if you spell it correctly. ;)
It's all one word lol.
Paycheque
For some reason I had become all American for a second lol.
2 Likes #18
WheresMeNuts
stuarthanley
WheresMeNuts
stuarthanley
WheresMeNuts
P A Y C H E C K <------ classed as swear word on here lol.
Pay cheque... Seems to work if you spell it correctly. ;)
It's all one word lol.
Paycheque
For some reason I had become all American for a second lol.
Gaddamn! ;)
4 Likes #19
davewave
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.


And the tories like to rub shoulders with israels politicians who are responsible for many crimes against humanity, double standards yet again I see dave in your war on corbyn, if I was him I'd be flattered by your level of seething hatrid shows he's doing something right.

Its time the establishment stopped pretending that the anti semitism in the uk (arabs are a semitic people too btw) is baseless racism and accept that is anti zionist, time the international community condemned and acted against israel the same way they do any other nation in the region, israel itself is promoting it as a race war by propagations that anti israel talk = anti jew, that the two are inexplicably linked and there is no such thing as a jew who is againsts the policies and actions of israel. No other country on earth attempts to warp both public thinking and government policy in that way in order to prevent criticism and thus increase hatrid.

Edited By: Error440 on Oct 16, 2016 10:03
4 Likes #20
Looks like Shami Chakrabarti’s report on anti-semitism was purely a job application.
#21
Wonderlust7
More corbyn bashing - yay!


Corrected. :D
banned 1 Like #22
Error440
davewave
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.
And the tories like to rub shoulders with israels politicians who are responsible for many crimes against humanity, double standards yet again I see dave in your war on corbyn, if I was him I'd be flattered by your level of seething hatrid shows he's doing something right.
Its time the establishment stopped pretending that the anti semitism in the uk (arabs are a semitic people too btw) is baseless racism and accept that is anti zionist, time the international community condemned and acted against israel the same way they do any other nation in the region, israel itself is promoting it as a race war by propagations that anti israel talk = anti jew, that the two are inexplicably linked and there is no such thing as a jew who is againsts the policies and actions of israel. No other country on earth attempts to warp both public thinking and government policy in that way in order to prevent criticism and thus increase hatrid.

You recently said on another thread that Russian and Syrian forces should obliterate civilians in Aleppo to bring the whole situation to a swift ending with no further foreign intervention (strangely you seemed happy for Russians to be involved).

Using that in Israel, are you happy for the legitimate Israeli forces to obliterate those that are against them in their own land for the sake of bringing the whole mess to a swift conclusion.

Or is a Palestinian life somehow different from a Syrian one




Edited By: cchopps on Oct 16, 2016 10:20: Edit
1 Like #23
Yet another confirmation bias thread... all started with things as trivial as how he does up his tie.
4 Likes #24
cchopps
Error440
davewave
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.
And the tories like to rub shoulders with israels politicians who are responsible for many crimes against humanity, double standards yet again I see dave in your war on corbyn, if I was him I'd be flattered by your level of seething hatrid shows he's doing something right.
Its time the establishment stopped pretending that the anti semitism in the uk (arabs are a semitic people too btw) is baseless racism and accept that is anti zionist, time the international community condemned and acted against israel the same way they do any other nation in the region, israel itself is promoting it as a race war by propagations that anti israel talk = anti jew, that the two are inexplicably linked and there is no such thing as a jew who is againsts the policies and actions of israel. No other country on earth attempts to warp both public thinking and government policy in that way in order to prevent criticism and thus increase hatrid.
You recently said on another thread that Russian and Syrian forces should obliterate civilians in Aleppo to bring the whole situation to a swift ending with no further foreign intervention (strangely you seemed happy for Russians to be involved).
Using that in Israel, are you happy for the legitimate Israeli forces to obliterate those that are against them in their own land for the sake of bringing the whole mess to a swift conclusion.


Actually if you bothered to read it properly and not insert your own biased into my words I stated that the west has a long history of failure and that putin is right to regard all as mercenaries, destabilising a country and putting it in the hands of rebel groups who are a unknown entity is madness, the assads are not religious nutcases but its most likely that tne rebels are.

Israel on the other hand is occupied Palestine, the zionists are extremists and they are stealing land and squeezing the palestinians into a corner without so much as a embargo from the west who happly still fund their terrorism right upto government level.

The only thing both areas have in common is the fact western interference has and will continue to make matters worse.

In syria it was the disabling of neighbouring countries which threw more groups into the mix with differing ideological ideas of what they want perpetuating the troubles, arming and helping those groups will just create more trouble.

In israel it was the carving up of a nation by outsiders in the first place and the continued expansion of that nation by hardliners sitting there taking their que from a book that promised them the whole area to themselves and the crushing of anyone who thinks different. But we support those religious fruitcakes to perpetuate what they are doing.

Its arrogance by the west thats destabilising the whole region, egged on by Saudi who want to reform it in their own image.
banned 1 Like #25
Error440
cchopps
Error440
davewave
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.
And the tories like to rub shoulders with israels politicians who are responsible for many crimes against humanity, double standards yet again I see dave in your war on corbyn, if I was him I'd be flattered by your level of seething hatrid shows he's doing something right.
Its time the establishment stopped pretending that the anti semitism in the uk (arabs are a semitic people too btw) is baseless racism and accept that is anti zionist, time the international community condemned and acted against israel the same way they do any other nation in the region, israel itself is promoting it as a race war by propagations that anti israel talk = anti jew, that the two are inexplicably linked and there is no such thing as a jew who is againsts the policies and actions of israel. No other country on earth attempts to warp both public thinking and government policy in that way in order to prevent criticism and thus increase hatrid.
You recently said on another thread that Russian and Syrian forces should obliterate civilians in Aleppo to bring the whole situation to a swift ending with no further foreign intervention (strangely you seemed happy for Russians to be involved).
Using that in Israel, are you happy for the legitimate Israeli forces to obliterate those that are against them in their own land for the sake of bringing the whole mess to a swift conclusion.
Actually if you bothered to read it properly and not insert your own biased into my words I stated that the west has a long history of failure and that putin is right to regard all as mercenaries, destabilising a country and putting it in the hands of rebel groups who are a unknown entity is madness, the assads are not religious nutcases but its most likely that tne rebels are.
Israel on the other hand is occupied Palestine, the zionists are extremists and they are stealing land and squeezing the palestinians into a corner without so much as a embargo from the west who happly still fund their terrorism right upto government level.
The only thing both areas have in common is the fact western interference has and will continue to make matters worse.
In syria it was the disabling of neighbouring countries which threw more groups into the mix with differing ideological ideas of what they want perpetuating the troubles, arming and helping those groups will just create more trouble.
In israel it was the carving up of a nation by outsiders in the first place and the continued expansion of that nation by hardliners sitting there taking their que from a book that promised them the whole area to themselves and the crushing of anyone who thinks different. But we support those religious fruitcakes to perpetuate what they are doing.
Its arrogance by the west thats destabilising the whole region, egged on by Saudi who want to reform it in their own image.

It's there to see.

And here

Israel occupies Israel, get over it. Syria has ruled for 48 years with emergency law. They're nutcases alright, Assad's father was at it for years.

What makes matters worse for people of your ilk, is that outside of the old Soviet Union the largest group of Russian speaking people are in Israel. That's why they have the support of both the 'west' and the Russians. We've witnessed recently in Crimea and Ukraine what Russia does to protect its people if under threat.

So again I ask, should Israeli army obliterate the terrorists/undesirables/mercenaries within their land in a similar manner to Assad in Syria. Of course just to bring all of this mess to a swift end.

When people have hatred in their heart it oozes out. You basically stated that civilian death in Aleppo was ok, because Putin was doing it rather than the West. I've shown here that your hatred for the West and your hatred for Israel snookers you.

For the record I don't think Israel should eliminate its opponents within its land, but then I don't think Assad should be doing that in Aleppo either.




Edited By: cchopps on Oct 16, 2016 11:07: Edited
1 Like #26
Its not their land simple as that, the sooner people get round a table and negotiate the better, that will never happen until at least all the settlements that have spouted up since 1948 have been bulldozed.

What is your opinion on the Falklands by the way
1 Like #27
Who actually likes Corbyn apart from lazy people and students?
banned#28
Error440
Its not their land simple as that, the sooner people get round a table and negotiate the better, that will never happen until at least all the settlements that have spouted up since 1948 have been bulldozed.
What is your opinion on the Falklands by the way

Falkland islanders want the status quo to remain. I can't really see any need for change. And your opinion?
#29
cchopps
Error440
Its not their land simple as that, the sooner people get round a table and negotiate the better, that will never happen until at least all the settlements that have spouted up since 1948 have been bulldozed.
What is your opinion on the Falklands by the way
Falkland islanders want the status quo to remain. I can't really see any need for change. And your opinion?


My opinion is that if you support the Falklands still being protected by us to the tune of millions of pounds if not billions when trouble starts you can't really complain abourt Russian protectionism over the crimea which is home to important Russian military infrastructure and has a large number of russian supporters resident in it.

Overall tho my view of the Falklands is that it is a farce, a rock discovered by the dutch, populated by the French, taken over by the British and disputed by people of spanish origin. Ergo farce.
#30
delboyd
Who actually likes Corbyn apart from lazy people and students?
Thanks for that Paxman, good to know you are on HUKD.
#31
And on that note give israel back to the Canaanites....who ever they are I think they went to Carthage.

Tit for tat how long do we go back?
#32
I'm sure England stole some of Scotland's land :-/
1 Like #33
WheresMeNuts
I'm sure England stole some of Scotland's land :-/

It all belonged to the neanderthals long before then tho
banned 1 Like #34
Error440
And on that note give israel back to the Canaanites....who ever they are I think they went to Carthage.
Tit for tat how long do we go back?

You said it. We can destroy anyones right to any land if we choose our starting point. Lands get conquered. As it so happens the Jews are able to go back further than most to claims on land. You either live with what exists or tear your hair out. The same amount of Jews were displaced in the region as Palestinians. It's not Israel's fault that wherever the Palestinian people have been since 1948 they have caused trouble. Jordan conquered the West Bank and no one said a word, Israel conqueres the West Bank and its foul play. There will never be a 2 state solution, and I put it to you that it's an anti Semitic issue, not a Pro Palestinian issue. Why doesn't Jordan offer them a home within their borders, let them try again. Last time they did though the government was nearly overthrown.

Anyway enough from me as we're way off topic. Have a good day.

Edited By: cchopps on Oct 16, 2016 13:15: Edit
1 Like #35
sofiasar
everyone knows how much you love conservatives! anything negative about corbyn your cage rattles in joy!


Tories can at least raise themselves above terroristic support, Corbyn is a very dangerous and influential man.
#36
cchopps
Error440
cchopps
Error440
davewave
Just sickening
He invited Raed Salah, leader of the Islamic Movement, to tea on the Commons terrace. Salah promotes the blood libel that Jews murder children for blood to bake in their matzah and claims that thousands of Jews stayed home from work at the World Trade Centre on 9/11, a key component of the conspiracy theory that Jews and not Islamic fundamentalists were behind the attacks.
And the tories like to rub shoulders with israels politicians who are responsible for many crimes against humanity, double standards yet again I see dave in your war on corbyn, if I was him I'd be flattered by your level of seething hatrid shows he's doing something right.
Its time the establishment stopped pretending that the anti semitism in the uk (arabs are a semitic people too btw) is baseless racism and accept that is anti zionist, time the international community condemned and acted against israel the same way they do any other nation in the region, israel itself is promoting it as a race war by propagations that anti israel talk = anti jew, that the two are inexplicably linked and there is no such thing as a jew who is againsts the policies and actions of israel. No other country on earth attempts to warp both public thinking and government policy in that way in order to prevent criticism and thus increase hatrid.
You recently said on another thread that Russian and Syrian forces should obliterate civilians in Aleppo to bring the whole situation to a swift ending with no further foreign intervention (strangely you seemed happy for Russians to be involved).
Using that in Israel, are you happy for the legitimate Israeli forces to obliterate those that are against them in their own land for the sake of bringing the whole mess to a swift conclusion.
Actually if you bothered to read it properly and not insert your own biased into my words I stated that the west has a long history of failure and that putin is right to regard all as mercenaries, destabilising a country and putting it in the hands of rebel groups who are a unknown entity is madness, the assads are not religious nutcases but its most likely that tne rebels are.
Israel on the other hand is occupied Palestine, the zionists are extremists and they are stealing land and squeezing the palestinians into a corner without so much as a embargo from the west who happly still fund their terrorism right upto government level.
The only thing both areas have in common is the fact western interference has and will continue to make matters worse.
In syria it was the disabling of neighbouring countries which threw more groups into the mix with differing ideological ideas of what they want perpetuating the troubles, arming and helping those groups will just create more trouble.
In israel it was the carving up of a nation by outsiders in the first place and the continued expansion of that nation by hardliners sitting there taking their que from a book that promised them the whole area to themselves and the crushing of anyone who thinks different. But we support those religious fruitcakes to perpetuate what they are doing.
Its arrogance by the west thats destabilising the whole region, egged on by Saudi who want to reform it in their own image.

It's there to see.

And here

Israel occupies Israel, get over it. Syria has ruled for 48 years with emergency law. They're nutcases alright, Assad's father was at it for years.

What makes matters worse for people of your ilk, is that outside of the old Soviet Union the largest group of Russian speaking people are in Israel. That's why they have the support of both the 'west' and the Russians. We've witnessed recently in Crimea and Ukraine what Russia does to protect its people if under threat.

So again I ask, should Israeli army obliterate the terrorists/undesirables/mercenaries within their land in a similar manner to Assad in Syria. Of course just to bring all of this mess to a swift end.

When people have hatred in their heart it oozes out. You basically stated that civilian death in Aleppo was ok, because Putin was doing it rather than the West. I've shown here that your hatred for the West and your hatred for Israel snookers you.

For the record I don't think Israel should eliminate its opponents within its land, but then I don't think Assad should be doing that in Aleppo either.





problem with anti Semites is they think it's OK if they can bathe it in veiled support for terrorists...
particularly in the only democracy in the middle East with a fair justice system, benefits system for all, respect for all religions and healthcare for all, irrespective of the citizen's political affiliation.
#37
cchopps
Error440
And on that note give israel back to the Canaanites....who ever they are I think they went to Carthage.Tit for tat how long do we go back?
You said it. We can destroy anyones right to any land if we choose our starting point. Lands get conquered. As it so happens the Jews are able to go back further than most to claims on land. You either live with what exists or tear your hair out. The same amount of Jews were displaced in the region as Palestinians. It's not Israel's fault that wherever the Palestinian people have been since 1948 they have caused trouble. Jordan conquered the West Bank and no one said a word, Israel conqueres the West Bank and its foul play. There will never be a 2 state solution, and I put it to you that it's an anti Semitic issue, not a Pro Palestinian issue. Why doesn't Jordan offer them a home within their borders, let them try again. Last time they did though the government was nearly overthrown.
Anyway enough from me as we're way off topic. Have a good day.


They are all semitic people anyway I refer you to my original post about how israel itself fans the flames of racial hatred to deride legitimate concerns about human rights and legality of its actions over the years.
2 Likes #38
davewave
sofiasar
everyone knows how much you love conservatives! anything negative about corbyn your cage rattles in joy!

Tories can at least raise themselves above terroristic support, Corbyn is a very dangerous and influential man.

http://www.thecommentator.com/system/articles/inner_pictures/000/002/243/thumb/DSC_8309.JPG?1355264673
3 Likes #39
sofiasar
everyone knows how much you love conservatives! anything negative about corbyn your cage rattles in joy!
congrats, your most legible text ever.... just need to work on content now...
#40
Wonderlust7
More corbyn bashing - yawn

He deserves to be bashed at every opportunity, the man is dangerous. Am genuinely amazed he ever got near parliament he would never pass a SC.

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