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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
I currently use Microsoft Onecare, But with the introduction of windows 7 they are discontuing the service later this year. I am looking for the best paid service that will work well on Windows vista and includes anti-virus, firewall and internet security.

Any recommendations?

Oh I have tried Norton before and its a pile of pap, and dont trust the freebies
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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
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#1
I've used "Bullguard" for 6 years with no problems.
banned#2
Nod32?
#3
Microsoft are still offering AV solutions but they've made it free.

Linky

Not used it personally, but the general concensous is that it's a good solution.
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#5
just remember tho, martin lewis isnt an IT expert, he's into saving you money, but if the AV software you choose is kack and you have to get your computer repaired, its not saving you much is it.

theres a reason why the free ones are free, to raise awareness of their full premium, paid for softwares.
they often hav limited security features and will need to be used in conjunction with other free software like a firewall, anti malware and email scanner to do the same job. sometimes the free ones if all from different vendors can conflict with each other if not properly configured.

not saying they're bad, but you'll probably find you get less frequent updates with the free ones, no direct support from the vendor and may have to seek out help from net forums to solve any problems.

if you value the data on your computer, pay for a decent security.
Eset, Kaspersky and Symantec products topped the AV-Comparatives.org awards for 2009.

anyone who tells you that Norton products slow your computer down and other horror stories, are either severely out of touch with the IT world, or just have their head up their egotistical backside.
banned#6
Yeah the free ones are good enough in most cases. As they are just free versions of a premium product it would be business suicide for them to offer an inferior AV product for free that would tarnish their brand.

There are other factors mind...

It's not just the historical poorness of Norten that is still putting people off their products. No matter how much improvement they make I would never use their product.
#7
master_chief
Yeah the free ones are good enough in most cases. As they are just free versions of a premium product it would be business suicide for them to offer an inferior AV product for free that would tarnish their brand.

There are other factors mind...


depends on if you deem 'good enough' to be good enough for you.
I certainly dont.

you'll generally find the free versions are either a trial lasting 30-60 days of the full product when then reverts to a crippled feature version if you don't pay, or its already a limited feature version that advertises the other features you could have if you paid for it.

its a free sample, like those bits of pasty they offer in Greggs.
its not a whole pasty for free
#8
master_chief

It's not just the historical poorness of Norten that is still putting people off their products. No matter how much improvement they make I would never use their product.


horses, courses I guess, but the Norton products have significantly improves over the past 2 years and to be honest, anyone who reccommends something free like AVG over a premium products by one of the biggest AV software vendors, its quite frankly, ridiculous
#9
slackrat77
just remember tho, martin lewis isnt an IT expert, he's into saving you money, but if the AV software you choose is kack and you have to get your computer repaired, its not saving you much is it.

theres a reason why the free ones are free, to raise awareness of their full premium, paid for softwares.
they often hav limited security features and will need to be used in conjunction with other free software like a firewall, anti malware and email scanner to do the same job. sometimes the free ones if all from different vendors can conflict with each other if not properly configured.

not saying they're bad, but you'll probably find you get less frequent updates with the free ones, no direct support from the vendor and may have to seek out help from net forums to solve any problems.

if you value the data on your computer, pay for a decent security.
Eset, Kaspersky and Symantec products topped the AV-Comparatives.org awards for 2009.

anyone who tells you that Norton products slow your computer down and other horror stories, are either severely out of touch with the IT world, or just have their head up their egotistical backside.


And you, presumably are an IT expert? Or, is it you who has "their head up their egotistical backside" with this piece of advice?

Which AV software anyone needs depends a lot on what they do on their PC. So any advice from a (genuine) security expert would be tailored to what the customer needed, not a sweeping generalisation that paid-for must be better than free. :roll:
#10
tony_s1
And you, presumably are an IT expert? Or, is it you who has "their head up their egotistical backside" with this piece of advice?

Which AV software anyone needs depends a lot on what they do on their PC. So any advice from a (genuine) security expert would be tailored to what the customer needed, not a sweeping generalisation that paid-for must be better than free. :roll:


I wouldnt say expert but I have been working with Windows PCs since 1997 and worked as a PC tech for a local repair firm for 4 years before being made redundant due to the stupidity of my boss selling dodgy cable boxes.

I wouldnt say I have my head up my backside, I too once hated Symantec Norton products but over the last 2 years have had my eyes opened to how much they've improved and how good they are now.
some folk will just refuse to accept this and still stick to their outdated ideas that things dont change and AVG free is the best thing out there, despite a lot of proof otherwise.

but software choice is always going to be a personal thing.
I still prefer Eset Smart Security over all the other ones I've ever tried.,and it only came 3rd in AV Comparatives products of 2009.

of course any piece of software is dependant on what the customer wants from their computer. for a very light internet user, a basic windows firewall and free security software like MSE might be just fine.
for someone who has kids, something with a parental control may be a good idea.
like you say, its all dependent on the customer.

what I was trying to get across is that the companies offer free version to entice customers into buying the full version.
generally anyway, there are a few non-profit AVs out there too.

comapnies need to make money to fund research into comabting new virus problems and paying their staff to do so comes from charging money for their products.
the companies who don't charge for their products, hows their research funded?

I dunno bout anyone else but I see it from a business side aswell as a consumer.

Consumer wants protection for their computer. doesnt want to pay, why? AVs are expensive and they only last a year.
use a free one that has limited features and MAY not protect the computer aswell as the premium one.

for some this is fine.
for others, they require a higher level of protection, or an easier to use interface, whatever.

I'm not generalising ALL free AVs, the Microsoft one is very good.
What I was generalising, is people who **** off Norton products without having tried the newest versions. those are the ones who are out of touch and have their head up their backside.

if your free one works for you, good stuff, but I've never seen a PC tech worth his or her salt, reccomend a free sample program, unless they're just touting for business.
#11
slackrat77


if your free one works for you, good stuff, but I've never seen a PC tech worth his or her salt, reccomend a free sample program, unless they're just touting for business.


Of course they are not going to install a free AV when they can charge for a product that is often less secure than a free AV.

I use MS Essentials, along with Comodo Firewall, and Malwarebytes, all free and never any problems.
#12
Inactive
Of course they are not going to install a free AV when they can charge for a product that is often less secure than a free AV.

I use MS Essentials, along with Comodo Firewall, and Malwarebytes, all free and never any problems.


often less secure?

hmm I dunno bout that, it all depends on what you're comparing.

plus theres always going to be posters that say "I run XXX along with XXX and have had no problems"

I run Eset Smart Security and Malwarebytes too and have had no problems, before that Eset Nod32 and PC Tools firewall.

friend of mine uses Norton 2009 and has upgraded recently to 2010 and has had no problems.

a good amount of common sense is a marvellous tool when it comes to computer security, am sure we can all agree on that.
However, a good amount of folk will get a computer on a broadband connection and think "Wahey, free music/movies/porn" and have their computer riddled in no time.

how many computer related posts on here, asking about problem solving are from users with free AVs?
How many are from people with premium subscriptions?

thats rhetorical btw, do your own research.
#13
>you'll generally find the free versions are either a trial lasting 30-60 days of the full product when then reverts to a crippled feature version if you don't pay,

TOTALLY UNTRUE.

I have used AVG anti virus, AVAST anti virus, Zone Alarm firewall, Adaware and WinPatrol.

NEVER paid a penny for any of them, NEVER had them as a trail (so they dont run out), and never found any crippled function.

And Avast anti virus updates EVERY day, sometimes more than once a day.

And I have never had a virus, spyware or any other sort of problem.
#14
Happily continue to use AVG, Spybot S&D, AdBlock Plus and Comodo for my web security.

Interesting to hear Norton has improved, i've seen it cripple several computers so have avoided it like the plague.
#15
slackrat77

I run Eset Smart Security and Malwarebytes too and have had no problems, before that Eset Nod32 and PC Tools firewall.

f.



PC Mag doesn't share your confidence, they said about E-set Smart;

" So-so ability to recognize spyware. Failed to block or remove many spyware samples it detected. Very basic firewall. Too many valid e-mail messages identified as spam. "


:whistling:
#16
Mcafee is quite good :) it has a very good antivirus and firewall - never let me down.

Doesnt bug you all the time for unnessercery things.

Also has tools to monitor network usage and tools to speed up ur computer by removing unwanted files.
#17
guilbert53
>you'll generally find the free versions are either a trial lasting 30-60 days of the full product when then reverts to a crippled feature version if you don't pay,

TOTALLY UNTRUE.

I have used AVG anti virus, AVAST anti virus, Zone Alarm firewall, Adaware and WinPatrol.

NEVER paid a penny for any of them, NEVER had them as a trail (so they dont run out), and never found any crippled function.

And Avast anti virus updates EVERY day, sometimes more than once a day.

And I have never had a virus, spyware or any other sort of problem.


but they are all just single programs.
and up til very recently the free version of AVG used to come with a nag popup asking you to buy to full version of internet security

AVG free is just an Antivirus, its not an internet security suite.

and to say YOU'VE never had a problem is subjective, cos if your AV software's detection rate is below par, you wouldnt know if you've had a problem.

this sort of discussion is never ending and happens on every single thread on here about AV software.

Someone says "use a free one, they're just as good and dont cost anything"

Someone else (me in this case) reasons they must be free for a reason cos theres no business sense in having free ones, theres no profit in it, unless its to promote awareness of the full product.

Someone else responds "Well I've used it and had no problems"

I can easily respond that I've had no problems with my paid for one either.

its just endless.

with very rare exception, companies who create internet security software do so, to profit from it.
it puts money back into the company to expand both research and staff.

to offer a free AV software, they need profit from elsewhere, such as corporate copies sold to businesses.
but surely if the free one was as good as the premium one, why would a business PAY?
Why would anyone PAY?

simple to use and configure, but has advanced features too
more features such as better firewall, better intrustion detection
priority updates for virus definitions.

just cos your free one updates every day (so does Eset, but whatever), doesnt mean its getting the priority updates.

thats why its free.

I cant understand the people who don't see the logic here.
if its free, its free for a reason.
not just cos they like you and want to give you something for free.

its about MONEY
you have it, they want it.
they hope that you'll try their free product and like it so much you'll wanna buy the full version for the extra stuff.

its all very simple.

but whatever.

I'll stand on my side knowing I've paid for a decent level of security and that by paying, my money is going to help research and development of the product.

you stand on yours knowing you haven't shelled out anything to these greedy computer companies who just want your hard earned.

if neither side has a problem, in time, either the free ones will disappear cos they'll NEED to start charging, or the paid for ones will have to come up with other forms of revenue or stop producing their software altogether.
#18
Inactive
PC Mag doesn't share your confidence, they said about E-set Smart;

" So-so ability to recognize spyware. Failed to block or remove many spyware samples it detected. Very basic firewall. Too many valid e-mail messages identified as spam. "


:whistling:


whistle all you like.
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/summary/summary2009.pdf

Eset-3rd in software of the year.
AVG gets a bit of a slating here

so its all a bit subjective really.
:whistling:
#19
Take a look at Panda Cloud Antivirus.

http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/
(Play the Video on how the Cloud Antivirus works)

I've just switched from Avira to this.
#20
W1zz
Take a look at Panda Cloud Antivirus.

http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/
(Play the Video on how the Cloud Antivirus works)

I've just switched from Avira to this.


yeah, had noticed Panda had become 'one with the cloud' as a few other smaller ones have.

its gotta be better than Panda's previous efforts which were attrocious.

hope to see a lot more of the major AVs using cloud technology and resources
#21
MBeeching
Happily continue to use AVG, Spybot S&D, AdBlock Plus and Comodo for my web security.

Interesting to hear Norton has improved, i've seen it cripple several computers so have avoided it like the plague.


Try removing it :roll: it sticks to the registry like super glue.....pants totally pants. Like AOL software cant get rid

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