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Any advice on this car deal??

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6y, 1m agoPosted 6 years, 1 month ago
Looking to buy a new car and have been offered the following:

Brand new Ford Kuga Titanium 2WD 2.0 with USB, bluetooth kit and appearence pack in frozen white.

The price of the car is £20445 plus £219 for diamond brite and £210 for tax and 1st registration.

They are offering me £7500 as a part/ex for a 1.9CDTi(150) astra with 28000 miles in very good condition.

Finance is 7.9% APR with ford paying £500 as a sweetener to take the finance.

So, is this a good deal??? My feeling is yes, but i'm not too sure about the part/ex price. Glass guide says £8700 for the car in excellent condition and it's not a million miles off.

Any input would be good. Thanks for looking.
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6y, 1m agoPosted 6 years, 1 month ago
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#1
try and get them to move on the part-ex price - over 8k would be better. Get them to throw in a tank of fuel too.
#2
Sheep87
try and get them to move on the part-ex price - over 8k would be better. Get them to throw in a tank of fuel too.


What do you think of the actual price and finance for the Kuga? I reckon the bare minimum the Astra is worth is £8000.
#3
Not sure about your deal but if you can try other Ford dealers they may undercut each other.
#4
It looks like your getting £2k off Ford promotion price (about £1k less than other main agents offers) - but losing out on the "Trade in" value by about £1k - (so swings and roundabouts even stevens)
Do what Sheep87 suggests
and also try to get DiamondBrite free-
Also try to get Finance the same as Ford deal 4.9% APR on 2 yr deal.
Theres loads of garages desperate for cash nearing christmas.
Best of luck!

What’s the Ford promotion?
Unti
l 31 December 2010, the Kuga Titanium is available from £22,495 on the road.
& you get a £500 Deposit Allowance*, when financed at 4.9% APR typical on 2 Year Ford Options.
& you get a free Bluetooth® system with Voice Control and USB connection^.
& you get a free Appearance Pack.

http://www.ford.co.uk/CurrentPromo/CarPromotions/Kuga
#5
Whatsthepoint, that's a Zetec. Thanks anyway.
#6
i've just had a look on two websites for cars;
1st. http://www.drivethedeal.co.uk
2nd. http://www.motoring.co.uk

both have great deals, but the second had better offers
#7
[email protected]
It looks like your getting £2k off Ford promotion price (about £1k less than other main agents offers) - but losing out on the "Trade in" value by about £1k - (so swings and roundabouts even stevens)
Do what Sheep87 suggests
and also try to get DiamondBrite free-
Also try to get Finance the same as Ford deal 4.9% APR on 2 yr deal.
Theres loads of garages desperate for cash nearing christmas.
Best of luck!

Thanks for that. Is the DiamondBrite worth taking? Also, 2 years finance would be too much to pay per month. 7.9% is as good as I can get from a bank loan tbh.

Just heading to another dealer to see what they can do to beat this deal. Keep the advise coming please guys.

What’s the Ford promotion?
Unti
l 31 December 2010, the Kuga Titanium is available from £22,495 on the road.
& you get a £500 Deposit Allowance*, when financed at 4.9% APR typical on 2 Year Ford Options.
& you get a free Bluetooth® system with Voice Control and USB connection^.
& you get a free Appearance Pack.


http://www.ford.co.uk/CurrentPromo/CarPromotions/Kuga
#8
whatsThePoint
thegazman
Whatsthepoint, that's a Zetec. Thanks anyway.


It may of been before i changed it, before you posted this
And i meant try the site not the deal in the link ;)


Was just too quick for you ;) Had a look and that's pretty much the same deal as the dealer with a different finance deal. Thanks again.
#9
Anyone got anymore advice on this deal? Going to make my decision tomorrow morning so any more input would be great. Thanks in advance.
#10
Do you know anyone who works for Ford?I think you get about 25% off friends and family.
#11
What you need to consider is the price to change, it's not necessarily about the amount of money you get for your Astra, nor the price you are paying for the new car, but what is coming out of your pocket at the end of the day for it. I'm guessing as you have been offered a 'frozen white' Kugu its part of a pack deal the dealer has bought in, just my assumption as they already know the colour? and therefore the dealer has it in stock. You are in a better position to bargain on cars that they have in stock; the way it used to work when I worked for Nissan was we had them for 3 months, at the end of this, the garage bought them if they had not been sold (hence all the pre-reg cars you see - these were bought as part of a 'pack' for a discount from the manufacturer) Do you know how long roughly the dealer has had the car for - the longer the better as they will get more desperate to sell.

As for Diamond Brite I wouldn't bother unless it's free (btw products like this only cost the garage about £40 - it's where a salesman can make his money) and it will not add anything to the resale price in the future, as for tanks of fuel etc, push for it, but not too hard as the salesman normally has to buy this out of their commission.
#12
gemmyw
Do you know anyone who works for Ford?I think you get about 25% off friends and family.[/quot
[quote=gemmyw]Do you know anyone who works for Ford?I think you get about 25% off friends and family.


Don't mean to be rude but thats highly doubtful. Anyone confirm this?
#13
cosmicdav3
What you need to consider is the price to change, it's not necessarily about the amount of money you get for your Astra, nor the price you are paying for the new car, but what is coming out of your pocket at the end of the day for it. I'm guessing as you have been offered a 'frozen white' Kugu its part of a pack deal the dealer has bought in, just my assumption as they already know the colour? and therefore the dealer has it in stock. You are in a better position to bargain on cars that they have in stock; the way it used to work when I worked for Nissan was we had them for 3 months, at the end of this, the garage bought them if they had not been sold (hence all the pre-reg cars you see - these were bought as part of a 'pack' for a discount from the manufacturer) Do you know how long roughly the dealer has had the car for - the longer the better as they will get more desperate to sell.

As for Diamond Brite I wouldn't bother unless it's free (btw products like this only cost the garage about £40 - it's where a salesman can make his money) and it will not add anything to the resale price in the future, as for tanks of fuel etc, push for it, but not too hard as the salesman normally has to buy this out of their commission.


Yeah, it's frozen white, which is actually the colour i want. I know what you mean about the price to change. I suppose I can afford the payments but just want to make sure i'm getting the best deal around. As for the DiamondBrite, I think I will give that a miss. How much would it be to buy somewhere cheaper and how easy is it to apply? Thanks again for the comments.
1 Like #14
Don't bother with the Diamondbrite applied by the dealer mate. Get yourself a decent pot of wax like Autoglym HD wax or Collinite and wax it yourself. A good wax will last for ages.
Have a look on http://www.detailingworld.co.uk for some tips.
1 Like #15
You can get the Diamondbrite off places such as Ebay etc, however the only problem with applying it yourself it that there is no warranty on it . If you do want it, buy it from the dealer and then you know it is properly applied etc. but don't pay more than £99 for it (this allows the garage to buy it, pay the valeter to apply it, plus a little commision for the salesman) I would knock it out at £99 all day long but never any cheaper and I know most salesmen were the same. Just 1 other thing to bear in mind, if you do get it never wax the car or use any was n wax on it otherwise it invalidates the warranty.
#16
Evil_monkey
Don't bother with the Diamondbrite applied by the dealer mate. Get yourself a decent pot of wax like Autoglym HD wax or Collinite and wax it yourself. A good wax will last for ages.
Have a look on http://www.detailingworld.co.uk for some tips.


Thanks for that link. Will have a wee look now.
1 Like #17
One other word of advice, and something I would tell my customers. Get the PX price from the garage, then stick the car on ebay or in autotrader and ask slightly more for it, the likelihood is you will sell it for more than the garage would give you, but incase you don't the garage will take it in PX. Just check with the agarge 1st as sometimes they can build a deal assuming that they are getting your PX in and knowing they can make some money out of that so may not be too happy if you turn up with cash and no car.
#18
cosmicdav3
One other word of advice, and something I would tell my customers. Get the PX price from the garage, then stick the car on ebay or in autotrader and ask slightly more for it, the likelihood is you will sell it for more than the garage would give you, but incase you don't the garage will take it in PX. Just check with the agarge 1st as sometimes they can build a deal assuming that they are getting your PX in and knowing they can make some money out of that so may not be too happy if you turn up with cash and no car.


I think the deal I am getting is based on the fact they can make a good bit on the PX. I'm pretty sure they could sell my Astra for around £9000, making a nice £1500 for doing nowt!!

You seem to be in the know about cars, so what do you think of the actual price for the Kuga? It was £20445 with the USB, bluetooth kit and the appearance pack. Thanks.
1 Like #19
thegazman
cosmicdav3
One other word of advice, and something I would tell my customers. Get the PX price from the garage, then stick the car on ebay or in autotrader and ask slightly more for it, the likelihood is you will sell it for more than the garage would give you, but incase you don't the garage will take it in PX. Just check with the agarge 1st as sometimes they can build a deal assuming that they are getting your PX in and knowing they can make some money out of that so may not be too happy if you turn up with cash and no car.
I think the deal I am getting is based on the fact they can make a good bit on the PX. I'm pretty sure they could sell my Astra for around £9000, making a nice £1500 for doing nowt!!You seem to be in the know about cars, so what do you think of the actual price for the Kuga? It was £20445 with the USB, bluetooth kit and the appearance pack. Thanks.

I'll be completely honest, I have no idea re. the price of the Kuga. If you had asked me 5 yrs ago about a Nisaan I would have known the prices like th back of my hand - used ot sell for them. But left that game a log time ago.

I would ask about selling the Astra yourself though, £1.5k is about usual to have accross a car, you have to remember they have to actually sell it for that price - normally they would negotiate down by at least £500, plus the cost of valet, it taking up space on their pitch, marketing it (newspaper ads etc) all costs money, to be honest I wouldn't be suprised if they would let you bring the cashj in instead, especially seeing as your bying from a main dealer, Ford and they don't always want other makes of car on their forecourt.

Edited By: cosmicdav3 on Oct 27, 2010 21:37: spelling is awful!
#20
cosmicdav3
thegazman
cosmicdav3
One other word of advice, and something I would tell my customers. Get the PX price from the garage, then stick the car on ebay or in autotrader and ask slightly more for it, the likelihood is you will sell it for more than the garage would give you, but incase you don't the garage will take it in PX. Just check with the agarge 1st as sometimes they can build a deal assuming that they are getting your PX in and knowing they can make some money out of that so may not be too happy if you turn up with cash and no car.
I think the deal I am getting is based on the fact they can make a good bit on the PX. I'm pretty sure they could sell my Astra for around £9000, making a nice £1500 for doing nowt!!You seem to be in the know about cars, so what do you think of the actual price for the Kuga? It was £20445 with the USB, bluetooth kit and the appearance pack. Thanks.


I'll be completely honest, I have no idea re. the price of the Kuga. If you had asked me 5 yrs ago about a Nisaan I would have known the prices like th back of my hand - used ot sell for them. But left that game a log time ago.

I would ask about selling the Astra yourself though, £1.5k is about usual to have accross a car, you have to remember they have to actually sell it for that price - normally they would negotiate down by at least £500, plus the cost of valet, it taking up space on their pitch, marketing it (newspaper ads etc) all costs money, to be honest I wouldn't be suprised if they would let you bring the cashj in instead, especially seeing as your bying from a main dealer, Ford and they don't always want other makes of car on their forecourt.


It's just the hassle of selling the car privately that puts me off. I sold a car privately a few years back and it was a nightmare with people pulling out last minute and offering crazy low money!!

I have almost made my mind up and it looks like I will ditch the DiamondBrite and pay a little more of a deposit to leave the balance to finance at £12000. Over 3 years I will pay back £13463, which is under £500 a year in interest which I think is very good. Thanks again for everyones help and advice. :)
#21
Just an update to anyone who is interested. Went back in this morning to finalise the deal, and to cut a long story short they didn't want to pay £105 to transfer my cherished plate even after I took the DiamondBrite for £100!! I insisted they pay for my plate or give me DiamondBrite for free or I would take my business elsewhere....and he just handed me back my deposit lol.

To be fair, this was another sales guy than the 1 I was dealing with yesterday as it was his day off. I was quite shocked they threw the sale away for £105 on a £20000 car!! Hopefully get a phone call tomorrow from the original guy and see if he's willing to take my offer. Although tonight I have been looking at buying a car from buyacar.co.uk. Anyone have any knowledge of them? They had some really good deals. Thanks in advance.

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