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any bathroom fitters tilers about - a question pls

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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
I have plaster board with tiles on on all my bathroom walls .
I want to remove them -
the fitters say the best option would be to replace the whole plaster board ie tear out old one and replace with new plaster board with new tiles to be grouted on top instead of chipping of the old tiles and replacing them .?
Its a small en suite , but isnt this over kill for a simple change ?
He was talking about aqua loc sheet down ( not sure about it ) either above or below new plaster board - He will expand in estimate

Can someone advise? Is this nessary just to replace tiles ?
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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Will be a real pain and a great deal of work to get back to a flat surface if you remove the tiles so I'd tend to agree with new walls to gie you the best finish.
#2
i see greg thanks for the reply , are you aware of a membrane / lining sounding similar to aqua loc and what that does?
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denandyas
i see greg thanks for the reply , are you aware of a membrane / lining sounding similar to aqua loc and what that does?


I used this when boxing out part of our bathroom

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Moistureshield-Tapered-Edge/invt/190540

Edited By: midlandscomics on Jan 06, 2011 22:39
1 Like #4
have a look here ultimatehandyman forum,tiling section, very good site with good advice.

Edited By: richp on Jan 06, 2011 22:41
1 Like #5
I would never put standard plasterboard in wet area. Aqualoc sounds like the waterproof boards now made for this kind of job. To me your builder is giving good advice.

As for removing tiles from plasterboard that will leave a mess and be a waste of time if they are on it properly.
#6
just been on the forum rich p recd and I can'tsee any direct reference to myy issue ... i see alot of tiling upon tiles , sticking plaster board on existing tiles then tiling again :0 ...
I will post my question up though and see if I get a responce .
Thanks
1 Like #7
i put normal plasterboard in my bathroom, then sealed it prior to putting up the tiles.... works fine but i'm not a tiler!!
I'll post back here in 12 months and let you know if the woman downstairs disagrees with my choice!! lol

Edited By: bikerjodie on Jan 06, 2011 22:49
1 Like #8
Yes if your bathroom is boarded then re-boarding is the easier option. I would use aquapanel where it may come into contact with water. Also you need to use aquapanel fixing screws. You can use normal bathroom plasterboard on the normal walls. Wickes sell all this.
#9
Having just had a whole new bathroom fitted, I have to agree. Marine ply or something similar of you want it to last.

I find the whole business of tiles and grout very odd. Eventually, the grout always goes dirty / leaks etc. We can put a man on the moon but.......still grout and tile in areas like showers!! If you are the type of person who has a whole new bathroom every 5 yrs then OK. (and if you enjoy cleaning / regrouting to mantain it then fair enough. I don't)

What I wish I had gone for, the new bathroom designs which use very large slabs almost like thinner versions of kitchen worktops. Very few joins, so less grout required, far less maintenance, risk of leaks etc. Seems to be the way things are going, although I know many will not agree with me.

And don't get me started om mastic......!oO
banned#10
Plaster board would disintegrate when you take the tiles off. The aqua panels are 3 times plus the cost of normal plaster board though.
#11
.....Seems just not possible to install a new bathroom without visible mastic.

As we all know, mastic discolours and can grow mould over time.

I know it can be removed and replaced, more maintenance..........

Edited By: iglimpse on Jan 08, 2011 21:23
banned#12
'mastic' has moved on

Wickes Master range lasts and lasts £8.39 though.
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Mould-Protect-Kitchen+Bathroom-Sealant/invt/209297
banned#13
iglimpse
.....Seems just not possible to install a new bathroom without visible mastic.As we all know, mastic discolours and can grow mould over time.I know it can be removed and replaced, more maintenance..........

Dont use cheap mastic
#14
dimebars
iglimpse
.....Seems just not possible to install a new bathroom without visible mastic.As we all know, mastic discolours and can grow mould over time.I know it can be removed and replaced, more maintenance..........
Dont use cheap mastic



Would like not to use ANY mastic at all. Always eventually degenerates / goes mouldy
banned#15
Wow your ignorant
#16
hi and thanks for all the replies and info , mastic is grout or sealent I take it ?
#17
denandyas
hi and thanks for all the replies and info , mastic is grout or sealent I take it ?

Grout is the hard stuff that goes between the tiles. After a while it can become discloured and grow mould. Eventually cracks and need replacing, or gets worse.

Mastic is a silicone sealant that adds extra waterproof protection. Again, this can eventually deteriorate, looks mouldy and will need to be replaced.

There must be easier ways to do bathrooms without all these problems .........
#18
iglimpse
denandyas
hi and thanks for all the replies and info , mastic is grout or sealent I take it ?


Grout is the hard stuff that goes between the tiles. After a while it can become discloured and grow mould. Eventually cracks and need replacing, or gets worse.

Mastic is a silicone sealant that adds extra waterproof protection. Again, this can eventually deteriorate, looks mouldy and will need to be replaced.

There must be easier ways to do bathrooms without all these problems .........


you can get mould resistant grout & mastic these days & very good it is too.
#19
Yeah just put new plasterboard in, as for grout cracking only happens with movement.
#20
aquaboard (or its equivalent) is generally used for lining the shower area only, its made of coated concrete rather than coated plaster which therefore doesn't expand or disintegrate when water comes into contact with it......
#21
resistant.......

still occurs eventually, especially in shower areas

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