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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
Morning all.

My car has been giving me dramas all morning - have JUST got back from the school run and am hoping someone here might have an idea what's wrong with it.

I started driving this morning and the car said that I needed to top up water, so I stopped and got some water but the tank was full (the water was very brown - normal?). Once I started moving again the water light had gone off but then the car started heating up on the temperature gauge and I ended up having to pull over a few times to allow the engine to cool down. The heaters would also not give me any warm air (FREEZING!)
After getting the kids to school I went to get diesel as I was going to see OH so he could look at the car for me. After putting diesel I started the car again and suddenly got hot air from the heaters straight away and the car has been driving perfect since then!

Can anyone please tell me what on Earth happened? Would REALLY appreciate it, in case it is likely to happen again.

Thank yous x
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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
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#1
It sounds to me as though the cooling system was frozen and the water was not getting round the engine and of course that would explain the cold air out of the heater as it uses the hot water to heat the car. Its now thawed in the engine so its working ok I think you need to check your antifreeze to stop it happening again
#2
You do have Anti-freeze in your motor ?? Dirty brown water normally indicates no anti-freeze. Decent Anti-freeze is normally coloured green. Get yourself to a garage and ask them to check .No Anti-freeze long term in these temperatures will lead to a siezed block .
#3
lack of anti-freeze?
#4
Go to a garage or Halfords get it tested for antifreeze
#5
yep lack of antifreeze you must get some added today if it frezzes solid could do some damage.
#6
ricko
You do have Anti-freeze in your motor ?? Dirty brown water normally indicates no anti-freeze. Decent Anti-freeze is normally coloured green. Get yourself to a garage and ask them to check .No Anti-freeze long term in these temperatures will lead to a siezed block .


Mines blue. Depends on how old the car is, the current lot use orange:thumbsup:

Lucky the core plugs didn't pop out really, or the water pump impeller snap off.....
[helper]#7
Just make sure you put in the right anti-freeze - from the AA website.....

Antifreeze
Antifreeze costs only a few pounds, but a cracked engine block will cost hundreds of pounds to repair.

The majority of modern cars use long-life antifreeze, and it is absolutely essential that you don't mix these with other types as this can cause a sludge to form in the engine. If you're not sure what type of antifreeze is in your car, take it to a dealer.

Traditional glycol-based antifreeze should be changed at least every two years.

A 50-50 mix of antifreeze and water in the cooling system is needed in winter. This gives maximum protection down to -34° centigrade, and without it, severe engine damage costing hundreds of pounds can occur.

If the fan belt squeals continually as soon as the engine is started, that is a sign the water pump is frozen.

The cylinder block could be frozen too. Stop the engine immediately and allow it to thaw out. This may take several days unless you can get the car moved to a heated garage.

Most commonly, it is just the radiator that freezes. The car will begin to overheat within a few miles of home, as the coolant is unable to circulate. Stop the car immediately and allow the radiator to thaw.
#8
So that seems pretty unanimous, thanks :-D

I don't mind getting anti-freeze but my water tank is full of water, can I drain it out - it's a Citroen Picasso?
#9
Mrs.Z
So that seems pretty unanimous, thanks :-D

I don't mind getting anti-freeze but my water tank is full of water, can I drain it out - it's a Citroen Picasso?


There should be a plug on the bottom of the radiator. By the sound of it, it'll want flushing out though.
banned#10
Mrs.Z
So that seems pretty unanimous, thanks :-D

I don't mind getting anti-freeze but my water tank is full of water, can I drain it out - it's a Citroen Picasso?


It needs draining you can pull the hose off underneath the expansion tank (jubliee clip?) if you don't want to do the whole thing. Then add 40/60 coolant to water (maybe). Mine is red/orange in 96 car. The brown suggests your engine block has been rusting as the coolant contains rust inhibitors.
#11
Mrs.Z
So that seems pretty unanimous, thanks :-D

I don't mind getting anti-freeze but my water tank is full of water, can I drain it out - it's a Citroen Picasso?

I would call into a local garage or Kwik fit or others as they will check it all for you and replace the antifreeze.
#12
as others have said, the water shouldn't look brown if it's got anti freeze in it. You need to get this sorted today with the temperatures as low as they are otherwise you'll end up doing some expensive damage to your car. If the water's full, you wont be able to just tip the anti freeze in though as you won't be able to get enough in, so best bet is to find someone that can drain the whole system and refill with the correct mix of water and anti freeze and make sure that the system is refilled with no air bubbles, otherwise you'll find the car overheats again if there is air in the cooling system.

If it has got anti freeze in, could possibly be the thermostat has failed, as that causes engine temp to rise and sometimes blow cold air out of the heating vents. If it happens again, pop the bonnet up and feel the lower pipe coming out from the radiator. If it's cold, that's a good indication the thermostats gone as the hot waster isn't getting through.
#13
Charlie&Lola
as others have said, the water shouldn't look brown if it's got anti freeze in it. You need to get this sorted today with the temperatures as low as they are otherwise you'll end up doing some expensive damage to your car. If the water's full, you wont be able to just tip the anti freeze in though as you won't be able to get enough in, so best bet is to find someone that can drain the whole system and refill with the correct mix of water and anti freeze and make sure that the system is refilled with no air bubbles, otherwise you'll find the car overheats again if there is air in the cooling system.

If it has got anti freeze in, could possibly be the thermostat has failed, as that causes engine temp to rise and sometimes blow cold air out of the heating vents. If it happens again, pop the bonnet up and feel the lower pipe coming out from the radiator. If it's cold, that's a good indication the thermostats gone as the hot waster isn't getting through.


It probably just needs anti-freeze, am trying to get through to Kwik Fit but they aren't answering, will get it sorted before anymore early morning drives though :)
#14
Get it sorted out ...................quick .Even ring a local garage and ask if they can help . Check the yellow pages for places like Halfords etc .Infact ,anyone near where you live .
dont put off.
#15
A quick way to check if there is any AF in the system is to dip your finger in and taste it. Should taste sweet if its in there.
banned#16
Foxy102
A quick way to check if there is any AF in the system is to dip your finger in and taste it. Should taste sweet if its in there.


Don't try this at home http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078439/Woman-swallowed-anti-freeze-dies-refusing-treatment--doctors-feared-assault-claim-saved-her.html
#17


She must have drunk a fair bit :lol:

"In 1985, Austrian wine scandal caused damage in the millions of dollars. A winemaker added ethylene glycol to his wine to upgrade it from regular to table wine. The ensuing world wide adverse publicity cost the Austrian wine industry untold millions in export losses.

However, one had to consume 28 bottles of wine per day for at least two weeks for the ethylene glycol to have an adverse effect."
#18
"......one had to consume 28 bottles of wine per day for at least two weeks for the ethylene glycol to have an adverse effect."
But surely , one only had to consume 2 bottles of wine per day to stop the blood from freezing in this adverse weather !
#19
:-( :-( :-(

I went to get it sorted but it seems it's too late for now - I seem to have a leak now, coolant tank was empty by this afternoon (maybe the tank has a crack?) so the car has to go garage tomorrow or Monday now

Expensive lesson learnt today PLUS we've had a 3 hour power cut this evening, just want to go to bed :cry:
#20
Mrs.Z
:-( :-( :-(

I went to get it sorted but it seems it's too late for now - I seem to have a leak now, coolant tank was empty by this afternoon (maybe the tank has a crack?) so the car has to go garage tomorrow or Monday now

Expensive lesson learnt today PLUS we've had a 3 hour power cut this evening, just want to go to bed :cry:



It could just be coincidence, but maybe your radiator was on its way out already? I had an overheating problem literally just before christmas, turns out that as well as having a faulty thermostat, the radiator had also started leaking. Wasn't as expensive as I thought though. I've got an Impreza and they're fairly expensive to fix when it comes to parts, but I picked up a thermostat myself from the Subaru garage, gave it to my mechanic and he got hold of a new radiator and fitted them both and it was only £180.

Ring a couple of garages and mechanics and ask them for a price to supply and fit a new radiator on your car. Certainly shouldn't be more than I paid, I'd have thought, but at least you;ve got something to go on as a rough price idea if it does turn out you need a new radiator :thumbsup:
banned#21
head gasket gone?
#22
An indication of the head gasket going is normally seeing oil in the water and water in the oil. People have also remarked on a white 'gunk' around the edge of where the water is put in on the tank.

This was the first thing I panicked about when mine went wrong so learnt quite a lot from google and my mechanic :-D

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