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6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
i have a ford focus, few months back i noticed that the drivers side wheel felt loose whie driving, so took it to a car garage and they reckon i needed to change all the discs and pads,which they did for me, but the problem didnt seem to go away so took the car back and they said i needed to change the suspension coil which they also did for me. since that was changed the problem went worse steering wheel shaking like mad and a knocking noise coming from driver side wheel, also the wheel still felt loose while driving so took it back to same garage for third time they said i needed a steering rod end which i let them change.the steering wheel has stopped shaking but the knocking noise is still there and the drivers side wheel still feels loose while driving, went back to garage playing hell they said this time i needed a new wishbone.does anyone know what on earth could be wrong with it because it seems im wasting my money as each time its something else wrong.im totally blonde when it comes to cars, so havent got a clue if they have totally ripped me off if anyone can give me advice that be great thanks xx
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#1
My my advice would be to take it to a different garage...!!!

Could be numerous things

1. Tracking
2. Balancing
3. Driveshaft
4. CV Joint
5. track rod end
#2
Wheel bearing. The hub could be damaged if it is wobbling. Don't drive it far until you get it checked. You should complain to the original garage as they have done a lot of unnecessary work.
#3
without seeing/driving it its hard to give a precise diagnosis, it could be a lower suspension ball joint/wishbone bushes which is part of the lower suspension arm, but I really would get a second opinion as it sounds like the garage doesn't know what its looking for by the amount of items they have replaced to try an eliminate it.
#4
thanks for reply, would a split in the cv joint gaiter cause it?. its just i dont wanna take it to another garage and they try to take the mick because the next nearest garage is ford itself and will cost loads, so dont want them to give me a list of stuff when its just something simple. i know its impossible to say what exactly is wrong without looking at the car but just wanted to know a rough idea wot could be causing it because it seems that my local garage as told me a load of rubbish
#5
my hubby,s steering wheel went loose and funny and it was the wheel bearings not sure if thats how you spell it!
#6
so havent got a clue if they have totally ripped me off if anyone can give me advice that be great thanks xx


Let's look at the evidence. You've spent loads of money, and your car is still broken.
#7
bargain buyer
thanks for reply, would a split in the cv joint gaiter cause it?. its just i dont wanna take it to another garage and they try to take the mick because the next nearest garage is ford itself and will cost loads, so dont want them to give me a list of stuff when its just something simple. i know its impossible to say what exactly is wrong without looking at the car but just wanted to know a rough idea wot could be causing it because it seems that my local garage as told me a load of rubbish


Yes a split cv could cause knocking, But as already stated could be a multiple of things. I'd take it anywhere other than your current garage personally, Sounds like their taking you for a ride. Perhaps take a man with you and let them deal with it, They probably see you and see £££ signs.

Edited By: shauneco on Aug 09, 2010 19:34: edit
#8
thesaint
so havent got a clue if they have totally ripped me off if anyone can give me advice that be great thanks xx
Let's look at the evidence. You've spent loads of money, and your car is still broken.

i know im so thick, i hve been totally ripped off !!
#9
bargain buyer
thanks for reply, would a split in the cv joint gaiter cause it?. its just i dont wanna take it to another garage and they try to take the mick because the next nearest garage is ford itself and will cost loads, so dont want them to give me a list of stuff when its just something simple. i know its impossible to say what exactly is wrong without looking at the car but just wanted to know a rough idea wot could be causing it because it seems that my local garage as told me a load of rubbish


a split in the drive shaft gaiter wouldn't help, as it lets the grease out & dirt in, which would cause the joint to wear & knock on a left/right hand turn, but if its only just split, I wouldn't have thought it would be that. If the Ford garage is your next nearest one, just get them to diagnose it & price the job, but not repair it. You can then decide what to do.

Edited By: richp on Aug 09, 2010 19:36: .
#10
shauneco
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thanks for reply, would a split in the cv joint gaiter cause it?. its just i dont wanna take it to another garage and they try to take the mick because the next nearest garage is ford itself and will cost loads, so dont want them to give me a list of stuff when its just something simple. i know its impossible to say what exactly is wrong without looking at the car but just wanted to know a rough idea wot could be causing it because it seems that my local garage as told me a load of rubbish
Yes a split cv could cause knocking, But as already stated could be a multiple of things. I'd take it anywhere than your current garage personally, Sounds like their taking you for a ride. Perhaps take a man with you and let them deal with it, They probably see you and see £££ signs.

o thanks for advice, they told me that i had a split in my cv gaiter but it wont make a difference as long as i change it before next MOT, think im goin av to ask a male to come with me tomorrow and sort them out lol, just been in car and noticed my handbrake not working could that be linked? i feel so stupid i bet ur reading this thinking what the hell is she on about lol
#11
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shauneco
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thanks for reply, would a split in the cv joint gaiter cause it?. its just i dont wanna take it to another garage and they try to take the mick because the next nearest garage is ford itself and will cost loads, so dont want them to give me a list of stuff when its just something simple. i know its impossible to say what exactly is wrong without looking at the car but just wanted to know a rough idea wot could be causing it because it seems that my local garage as told me a load of rubbish
Yes a split cv could cause knocking, But as already stated could be a multiple of things. I'd take it anywhere than your current garage personally, Sounds like their taking you for a ride. Perhaps take a man with you and let them deal with it, They probably see you and see £££ signs.


o thanks for advice, they told me that i had a split in my cv gaiter but it wont make a difference as long as i change it before next MOT, think im goin av to ask a male to come with me tomorrow and sort them out lol, just been in car and noticed my handbrake not working could that be linked? i feel so stupid i bet ur reading this thinking what the hell is she on about lol


Your handbrake not working is highly unlikely to cause any of the problems you've described, I'd suggest you have that fixed as well.
#12
Do you know of anyone who's handy with cars ??...................if you dont find one quick ........ before you keep going back to the garage . Sadly , I think you've been done ..............a very common scenario nowadays I'm afraid .Sounds like the garage are 'cowboys' and dont know what there doing .
CV [constant velocity] joints normally start knocking when they go wrong especially when you turn corners . Jack up the front of the car , with the steering at full lock ,turn the wheel/wheels ,if it knocks your joint needs replacing. Disks & pads are not big jobs to do ,but can be costly especially if there not needed to be changed .
Your car will fail it's MOT if your trackrods, bearings and CV boots are faulty , so your going to have to get things fixed .
Another means of getting your car checked is ..............ring a mobile mechanic . They will come to your house and check over your car and advise on a remedy . I've used them before for fitting timing belts on some of my motors , everything else gets done by myself as I DONT trust garages to do a decent job .
I would love to know how much all this has cost you so far !
#13
ricko
Do you know of anyone who's handy with cars ??...................if you dont find one quick ........ before you keep going back to the garage . Sadly , I think you've been done ..............a very common scenario nowadays I'm afraid .Sounds like the garage are 'cowboys' and dont know what there doing .CV [constant velocity] joints normally start knocking when they go wrong especially when you turn corners . Jack up the front of the car , with the steering at full lock ,turn the wheel/wheels ,if it knocks your joint needs replacing. Disks & pads are not big jobs to do ,but can be costly especially if there not needed to be changed . Your car will fail it's MOT if your trackrods, bearings and CV boots are faulty , so your going to have to get things fixed .Another means of getting your car checked is ..............ring a mobile mechanic . They will come to your house and check over your car and advise on a remedy . I've used them before for fitting timing belts on some of my motors , everything else gets done by myself as I DONT trust garages to do a decent job .I would love to know how much all this has cost you so far !

well to do the discs n pads they charged me £250 for parts and labour, the suspension coil and labour cost £135, the steering rod end cost £85 but they said the drumsticks o something needed changing on both sides they charged an extra £50, the last time i went back they quoted £175 for wishbone to be changed but said its better if i change both sides at same time.
#14
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ricko
Do you know of anyone who's handy with cars ??...................if you dont find one quick ........ before you keep going back to the garage . Sadly , I think you've been done ..............a very common scenario nowadays I'm afraid .Sounds like the garage are 'cowboys' and dont know what there doing .CV [constant velocity] joints normally start knocking when they go wrong especially when you turn corners . Jack up the front of the car , with the steering at full lock ,turn the wheel/wheels ,if it knocks your joint needs replacing. Disks & pads are not big jobs to do ,but can be costly especially if there not needed to be changed . Your car will fail it's MOT if your trackrods, bearings and CV boots are faulty , so your going to have to get things fixed .Another means of getting your car checked is ..............ring a mobile mechanic . They will come to your house and check over your car and advise on a remedy . I've used them before for fitting timing belts on some of my motors , everything else gets done by myself as I DONT trust garages to do a decent job .I would love to know how much all this has cost you so far !


well to do the discs n pads they charged me £250 for parts and labour, the suspension coil and labour cost £135, the steering rod end cost £85 but they said the drumsticks o something needed changing on both sides they charged an extra £50, the last time i went back they quoted £175 for wishbone to be changed but said its better if i change both sides at same time.


I work with cars everyday & from what you have posted I'd seriously get a second opinion.
#15
richp
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ricko
Do you know of anyone who's handy with cars ??...................if you dont find one quick ........ before you keep going back to the garage . Sadly , I think you've been done ..............a very common scenario nowadays I'm afraid .Sounds like the garage are 'cowboys' and dont know what there doing .CV [constant velocity] joints normally start knocking when they go wrong especially when you turn corners . Jack up the front of the car , with the steering at full lock ,turn the wheel/wheels ,if it knocks your joint needs replacing. Disks & pads are not big jobs to do ,but can be costly especially if there not needed to be changed . Your car will fail it's MOT if your trackrods, bearings and CV boots are faulty , so your going to have to get things fixed .Another means of getting your car checked is ..............ring a mobile mechanic . They will come to your house and check over your car and advise on a remedy . I've used them before for fitting timing belts on some of my motors , everything else gets done by myself as I DONT trust garages to do a decent job .I would love to know how much all this has cost you so far !
well to do the discs n pads they charged me £250 for parts and labour, the suspension coil and labour cost £135, the steering rod end cost £85 but they said the drumsticks o something needed changing on both sides they charged an extra £50, the last time i went back they quoted £175 for wishbone to be changed but said its better if i change both sides at same time.
I work with cars everyday & from what you have posted I'd seriously get a second opinion.

im defo not going to take it back there now, but going back there with my brother tomz and question why i have spent so much money and the problem isnt sorted, and got worse if anything. thanks guys for your advice wish i ad taken it somewhere else now o well we learn from our mistakes.xx
#16
Jack the car upm hold the wheel with both hands at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock.

now pull and push at these positions and see if there is any play (movement) in the wheel other than spinning around like it should.

If there is then your bearings are shot.

No point jacking the car up to check the CV joint chances are they won't make a noise whilst not under load. Find an open space and pull off slowly turning full lock the noise is a horrible loud clicking sound if the CVs are stuffed.


Can you be more specfic as to 'the wheel felt loose'?




Edited By: Celticsun on Aug 10, 2010 11:21: CV info
#17
Celticsun
Jack the car upm hold the wheel with both hands at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock.now pull and push at these positions and see if there is any play (movement) in the wheel other than spinning around like it should.If there is then your bearings are shot.No point jacking the car up to check the CV joint chances are they won't make a noise whilst not under load. Find an open space and pull off slowly turning full lock the noise is a horrible loud clicking sound if the CVs are stuffed.Can you be more specfic as to 'the wheel felt loose'?

thanks for replying, when driving the drivers wheel feels as if its just going to fly off the car, its hard to explain. the knocking noise only seemed to be happening when turning corners but the past week its happening when im driving straight
#18
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Celticsun
Jack the car upm hold the wheel with both hands at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock.now pull and push at these positions and see if there is any play (movement) in the wheel other than spinning around like it should.If there is then your bearings are shot.No point jacking the car up to check the CV joint chances are they won't make a noise whilst not under load. Find an open space and pull off slowly turning full lock the noise is a horrible loud clicking sound if the CVs are stuffed.Can you be more specfic as to 'the wheel felt loose'?


thanks for replying, when driving the drivers wheel feels as if its just going to fly off the car, its hard to explain. the knocking noise only seemed to be happening when turning corners but the past week its happening when im driving straight


It really does sound like a CV/driveshaft related problem. The garage has replaced almost everything else around the wheel.

I know I may get abuse for suggesting this, but you could try the damsel in distress card and roll into a kwikfit with tears in your eyes explain the situation and see if they can spare a few mins to take a look. Most Kwik Fits centres are very good and they are not all highway men, unfortunetly its the name of the game when it comes to garages there are a lot of bad apples.

Its a shame you don't know anybody with even the slightest bit of mechanical knowledge who could have a quick look underneath, I am sure 5 mins someone could diagnose it properly.
#19
Wow , thats alot of money you've forked out . I cannot believe they charge £85 for a track rod end , half an hours job if that .It's the re-tracking no doubt thats costs the extra [hope they have done that ].
Dont know where your based , but I'm in Northumberland and would have been more than happy to take a look at the front end of the car .
One more important thing to remember , especially after a car has had anything done regarding wheels .There will be a slight knocking on a wheel if the wheels stud haven't been tightened properly .The knocking will get louder and louder ...............................just before the wheel comes off .I dont want to frighten you , but this happens alot , I've actually seen a front wheel come off a Mini after a visit to a garage . I've recently seen notices in many garages .....PLEASE CHECK YOUR WHEEL NUTS BEFORE LEAVING THE GARAGE .How many people actually do check remains to be seen , but it's a problem . My local garage have lost both MOT's for my vechicles this year after the idiotic mistake they made last year on my Vectra .
I bought 2 new tyres for the front wheels , after one failed on the MOT test .They slackened the rear wheel nuts off [I presume by mistake ] and forgot to tighten them up .I drove the car home realising the knock from the rear end .I drove so slowly I held up all the trafic to get home . The next day I jacked up the rear end to find all 8 studs [4 on each side ] loose , the trims were replaced and new nylon ties holding them onto the wheels were fitted .God only knows what may have happened had I not known about the rear end knocking . I should of turned round and taken the car back but I did'nt . I couldn't proof they were at fault but they got a right bolocking and I will NEVER trust that garage again .
So, Yes I've had my experience with garages too .

ps . I'm not saying your problem is loose wheel nuts as it wont be , but it's just a warning that failing to rectify such problems or knocks can lead to serious problems .
#20
Celticsun
bargain buyer
Celticsun
Jack the car upm hold the wheel with both hands at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock.now pull and push at these positions and see if there is any play (movement) in the wheel other than spinning around like it should.If there is then your bearings are shot.No point jacking the car up to check the CV joint chances are they won't make a noise whilst not under load. Find an open space and pull off slowly turning full lock the noise is a horrible loud clicking sound if the CVs are stuffed.Can you be more specfic as to 'the wheel felt loose'?
thanks for replying, when driving the drivers wheel feels as if its just going to fly off the car, its hard to explain. the knocking noise only seemed to be happening when turning corners but the past week its happening when im driving straight
It really does sound like a CV/driveshaft related problem. The garage has replaced almost everything else around the wheel. I know I may get abuse for suggesting this, but you could try the damsel in distress card and roll into a kwikfit with tears in your eyes explain the situation and see if they can spare a few mins to take a look. Most Kwik Fits centres are very good and they are not all highway men, unfortunetly its the name of the game when it comes to garages there are a lot of bad apples.Its a shame you don't know anybody with even the slightest bit of mechanical knowledge who could have a quick look underneath, I am sure 5 mins someone could diagnose it properly.

thankfully, i have been talking to a lad who lives in my street and told him the problems i have had with my car and the garage etc and all the money i have wasted, he as kindly asked his dad who he said is a retired mechanic to have a look at it tonight, i asked how much will he charge and he said if you just buy the parts if any needed,he will do the work for nothing. but your most probably right about cv/driveshafts as the lad who i spoke to as a little bit of knowledge about cars, and said the noises sound as if there coming from cv/driveshafts. thanks again everyone for your help because i most probs would have kept going back to that rip off garage x x
#21
im in south wales lol, ive been back to the garage today, i have asked them if they can write down all the work they carried out on my car and how much the parts were, i think im partly to blame because i didnt ask any questions at the time and just handed my cash over.i dont think they re tracked it because the car is pulling to one side.
#22
Yeah ,it needs to be re-tracked as your tyres will wear down quickly .
Always ask for receipts for the work carried out ,itemised if possible from a garage .If your not satisfied with the garage you could mention you will go to Trading Standards . See if you can get some form of refund .
#23
ricko
Yeah ,it needs to be re-tracked as your tyres will wear down quickly .Always ask for receipts for the work carried out ,itemised if possible from a garage .If your not satisfied with the garage you could mention you will go to Trading Standards . See if you can get some form of refund .
surprise surprise, the mechanic who just checked over my car said that there is no way on earth that the steering rod end has ever been changed, what the hell is that garage playing at, going to take this matter further with trading standards i think, turns out that the problem was with the cv joint which the mechanic said i can get a new one with boot kit for roughly £20 inc vat. im not happy at all
#24
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ricko
Yeah ,it needs to be re-tracked as your tyres will wear down quickly .Always ask for receipts for the work carried out ,itemised if possible from a garage .If your not satisfied with the garage you could mention you will go to Trading Standards . See if you can get some form of refund .

surprise surprise, the mechanic who just checked over my car said that there is no way on earth that the steering rod end has ever been changed, what the hell is that garage playing at, going to take this matter further with trading standards i think, turns out that the problem was with the cv joint which the mechanic said i can get a new one with boot kit for roughly £20 inc vat. im not happy at all


Pleased the problems been diagnosed, Hopefully you get somewhere with trading standards, Have they replaced all the other parts they claim to have replaced? I'd get them checked as well. Good look, Remember to have your handbrake fixed as that's an mot failure.
#25
Really pleased you have got to them bottom of it.

Thats really bad about the garage, I hope trading standards can help you sort it out

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