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ok i bought i light fitting for the living room last night from ASDA and iv now unpacked it and bared the light socket off from the ceiling ok here is the question, which wires do i connect up wit…
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[helper] 7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
ok i bought i light fitting for the living room last night from ASDA and iv now unpacked it and bared the light socket off from the ceiling

ok here is the question, which wires do i connect up with ?

from the light fitting i have 2 wires a
a. BLUE and a
b. BROWN

and from the ceiling i have 5 wires
a. BROWN
b. BLACK
c. BLUE
d. RED
e. just a bare metal wire, think its the earth

|Iv done this before up at my old dears and fitted their lights etc but iv never come across as much as these under a light fitting...
there is no other points in the room there is only one light switch and one light fitting

thanks for any help folks
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[helper] 7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
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#1
Brown to Red
Blue to Black
[helper]#2
what about the other wires? lol
#3
saxo_appeal
what about the other wires? lol


Just leave em hanging ..... :-D
#4
"i fear an impending electric shock"
#5
careful of the advice you decide to take, remember it is April Fools.
#6
You have a loop to the next light fitting, doing the electrics over the internet is not a great idea, I would try and find a diagram to follow.

Have you already removed it? Can you take pictures of the old and new connections in situ?
#7
isnt any type of electircal work in the household meant to be done by a electrician, you need a certificate for the work done
#8
You have 5 wires, one as you say is Earth.
Put blue to Black / red to Brown, if that doesn't work then Brown to Brown / Blue to Blue.
#9
Hope you're wearing footwear with rubber soles!
#10
wickedteen;4797900
isnt any type of electircal work in the household meant to be done by a electrician, you need a certificate for the work done


You don't! You only need to be compentent :) It is only gas that you need to get someone in for.
#11
smithyp1
Just leave em hanging ..... :-D



Shocking advice. :w00t:
#12
smithyp1;4797868
Just leave em hanging ..... :-D

Bright Spark :)
#13
twist them all together and get someone to switch it on, but do this at night time as it looks much better.
#14
Sounds to me like it's part of a loop, you'll probably need to connect it all or something somewhere else wont work.

Really it needs to be looked at in the flesh. FYI: technically speaking, under the latest regs it's actually illegal to do this sort of thing yourself, you need a qualified electrician or at least need to get it checked over by one afterwards.
#15
Predikuesi
Bright Spark :)


Vital Spark.........Game on:thumbsup:
#16
megalomaniac
Sounds to me like it's part of a loop, you'll probably need to connect it all or something somewhere else wont work.

Really it needs to be looked at in the flesh. FYI: technically speaking, under the latest regs it's actually illegal to do this sort of thing yourself, you need a qualified electrician.


thats what i said, but some bright spark said you dont....................
#17
wickedteen
twist them all together and get someone to switch it on, but do this at night time as it looks much better.


:w00t:
#18
Predikuesi
You don't! You only need to be compentent :)


The exception being kitchens and bathrooms. Not applicable here though.
#19
megalomaniac;4797945
Sounds to me like it's part of a loop, you'll probably need to connect it all or something somewhere else wont work.

Really it needs to be looked at in the flesh. FYI: technically speaking, under the latest regs it's actually illegal to do this sort of thing yourself, you need a qualified electrician or at least need to get it checked over by one afterwards.


You can do the work yourself

Non – notifiable work

That is works which are very minor as shown below. These works may be carried out by a competent person who can issue a Minor Works Certificate to the owner upon completion of works or on a DIY basis providing the works are tested upon completion by a competent person and the Minor Works Certificate issued.
Work consisting of:
[LIST]
[*]Replacing accessories such as socket outlets, control switches and ceiling roses
[*]Replacing the cable for a single circuit only, where damaged, i.e. by fire, rodent or impact
[*]Re-fixing or replacing the enclosures of existing installation components
[*]providing mechanical protection to existing fixed installations.[/LIST]Work that is not in a kitchen or special location and does not involve a special installation and consists of:
[LIST]
[*]Adding lighting points (light fittings and switches) to an existing circuit
[*]Adding socket outlets and fused spurs to an existing ring or radial circuit
[*]Installing or upgrading main or supplementary equipotential bonding[/LIST]

http://www.westminster.gov.uk/environment/landandpremises/buildings/partp.cfm
#20
Health and safelty gone mad, you can't wire a plug on your' own now!
#21
wickedteen
thats what i said, but some bright spark said you dont....................


afaik it needs to be certified, technically I think you could do the work yourself but it would need to be checked over afterwards.

EDIT: Yup exactly what Predikuesi said....
1 Like #22
megalomaniac
Sounds to me like it's part of a loop, you'll probably need to connect it all or something somewhere else wont work.

Really it needs to be looked at in the flesh. FYI: technically speaking, under the latest regs it's actually illegal to do this sort of thing yourself, you need a qualified electrician or at least need to get it checked over by one afterwards.


Linky please. I believe you are incorrect, but I am willing to be proved wrong. :)
#23
Shambolic;4797965
Health and safelty gone mad, you can't wire a plug on your' own now!


You can of course, but no doubt the government will invent jobs so that the plug needs inspection.
#24
thesaint
Linky please. I believe you are incorrect, but I am willing to be proved wrong. :)


Check Predikuesi's post above. Needs to be certified :thumbsup:
[helper]#25
give me a second ill get a photo up

your gona laugh at what im using to get extra height :):)
#26
If you are not sure you should get a qualified electrician to do it. If it is wired incorrectly could cause a fire and your insurance would be void.
#27
megalomaniac;4798013
Check Predikuesi's post above. Needs to be certified :thumbsup:


Though this is what the Government says, who is going to call in an electrician to give a certificate for a minor job. Buy a cieling rose from B&Q for £3.50, then give an electrician £45.00 to confirm you installed it correctly - no way!
#28
Predikuesi
Though this is what the Government says, who is going to call in an electrician to give a certificate for a minor job. Buy a cieling rose from B&Q for £3.50, then give an electrician £45.00 to confirm you installed it correctly - no way!


Exactly. I think the phrase is '**** that for a game of soldiers' :lol:
banned#29
only needs to be certified by an electician if you are adding electrics, as you are not it doesnt need to be
#30
Predikuesi
Though this is what the Government says, who is going to call in an electrician to give a certificate for a minor job. Buy a cieling rose from B&Q for £3.50, then give an electrician £45.00 to confirm you installed it correctly - no way!


Didn't say I agreed with it, health and safety gone mad if you ask me. But then given the bodge jobs some monkeys who think they know it all do I can see why they feel it's necessary.
#31
Shengis;4798068
Exactly. I think the phrase is '**** that for a game of soldiers' :lol:


To be honest, I do minor gas jobs too:oops: A few weeks ago I had to clear our chimney of soot after next door had a new roof and some pointing done. Turn off the gas, remove one nut - reverse the procedure - job done. I am meant to get a Corgi Engineer in to do that! Don't think so!:p
#32
Predikuesi
To be honest, I do minor gas jobs too:oops: A few weeks ago I had to clear our chimney of soot after next door had a new roof and some pointing done. Turn off the gas, remove one nut - reverse the procedure - job done. I am meant to get a Corgi Engineer in to do that! Don't think so!:p


shhhh not on an internet forum, the government might be watching, lol.

Actually I have heard talk of them requiring gas/electric certification before you can sell a house. Anyone know how true/likely that is?
#33
megalomaniac;4798095
Didn't say I agreed with it, health and safety gone mad if you ask me. But then given the bodge jobs some monkeys who think they know it all do I can see why they feel it's necessary.


Do you remember the Corgi Engineer who blew up a house a few years ago? He had left the gas on while he was soldering in a new pipe!
[helper]#34
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k181/saxo_appeal/fittingonceiling.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k181/saxo_appeal/wireonlight.jpg

and here is what im using to get extra height......hahaha

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k181/saxo_appeal/ladder-1.jpg
#35
Predikuesi
Do you remember the Corgi Engineer who blew up a house a few years ago? He had left the gas on while he was soldering in a new pipe!


hehe even monkeys can get certified :whistling:
#36
megalomaniac
Check Predikuesi's post above. Needs to be certified :thumbsup:


Read again, it doesn't need an electrician. :)
#37
Predikuesi
To be honest, I do minor gas jobs too:oops: A few weeks ago I had to clear our chimney of soot after next door had a new roof and some pointing done. Turn off the gas, remove one nut - reverse the procedure - job done. I am meant to get a Corgi Engineer in to do that! Don't think so!:p


I rewired most my own house (pre part p) then rewired the kitchen (post part p) as I found out when we had a new combi fitted that the last monkey that had done it use 1.5mm t&e on the sockets. In a kitchen ffs, the most power hungry room in the house:roll: Never bothered with LBA certs. Obviously it was all tested when the boiler was fitted and the only fault the bloke came up with was that I didn't replace the earth bonding from the new CU.
1 Like #38
megalomaniac;4798140
shhhh not on an internet forum, the government might be watching, lol.

Actually I have heard talk of them requiring gas/electric certification before you can sell a house. Anyone know how true/likely that is?


Someone I know who is in the know told me that insurance companies are going to introduce PAT testing in homes if they can get the government to agree. This means that all electrical appliances will be tested.
#39
If that wasn't so dangerous it'd be funny:w00t:

Is the box empty ?
1 Like #40
Looks like the new one's double insulated to me, so you don't earth it.

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