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Any idea how to fix my shower?

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Since we all did so well on the plumbing question the other day I wondered if anyone knows whats up with my shower. Its an electric one bout 18 months old but its slowly been loosing heat. What I … Read More
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9y, 5m agoPosted 9 years, 5 months ago
Since we all did so well on the plumbing question the other day I wondered if anyone knows whats up with my shower.

Its an electric one bout 18 months old but its slowly been loosing heat. What I mean is I have to keep turning the dial round to get the water hot. When we first had it put in the dial sat at 5 and was nice and hot now I have to turn it past 10 just to stop shivering.

Any help would be great ta :lol:
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9y, 5m agoPosted 9 years, 5 months ago
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1 Like #1
Are you in a hard water area? More than likely scale has built up and scaled up the element. They can be descaled, but you need to know what you are doing...or at least turn the power off at the breaker...
1 Like #2
I like your 'clueless bint' tag :)
Funnily enough it's a similar situation with the shower at my house although the effect isn't quite as pronounced, it's definitely cooler at 5 than it used to be. This is the first winter since the unit was installed, as it's a gravity fed system I wondered if either more hot water was being used around the house or there was just less available.

John
#3
Johnmcl7;1378193
I like your 'clueless bint' tag :)
Funnily enough it's a similar situation with the shower at my house although the effect isn't quite as pronounced, it's definitely cooler at 5 than it used to be. This is the first winter since the unit was installed, as it's a gravity fed system I wondered if either more hot water was being used around the house or there was just less available.

John


If it is an electric shower, then the hot water useage around the house (heating or water) won't make a diffence as the water is heated internally via a heating element.

If you have a thermostatically controlled gravity fed shower, then the water should remain constant, but pressure will be reduced the more water around the house is being used.
1 Like #4
Most showers now come with a 2 year warranty, depends on the make;-)
#5
Foxy102
If it is an electric shower, then the hot water useage around the house (heating or water) won't make a diffence as the water is heated internally via a heating element.

If you have a thermostatically controlled gravity fed shower, then the water should remain constant, but pressure will be reduced the more water around the house is being used.


ours is most definatly an eletric shower but is effected when the water is run eleswhere in the house too.

In regard to the water hardness I stay in scotland so its as soft as a babies bum
1 Like #6
Thia time of year surely the cold water supply is a lot colder than say in the summer hence why the dial has to be turned higher.I have the exact same problem this time of year myself.Ju:thumbsup:st my take on it,merry xmas to you all anyway.
#7

Thia time of year surely the cold water supply is a lot colder than say in the summer hence why the dial has to be turned higher.I have the exact same problem this time of year myself.Ju:thumbsup:st my take on it,merry xmas to you all anyway.


That is what I was going to say.
#8
Also i would say it would depend on what khw shower it was maybe,i'm no expert so dont quote me but the higher the kwh it is the lower you would need to be putting the dial at.:santa:
#9
bobbybox
Also i would say it would depend on what khw shower it was maybe,i'm no expert so dont quote me but the higher the kwh it is the lower you would need to be putting the dial at.:santa:


:thumbsup:
#10
BritBrat
That is what I was going to say.



Nah it was starting to get colder in the summer and TBH the coldness of the water should cause me to have to turn it up full
#11
bobbybox
Also i would say it would depend on what khw shower it was maybe,i'm no expert so dont quote me but the higher the kwh it is the lower you would need to be putting the dial at.:santa:


Stupid question but how do I find that out?
#12
jennybubbles
Stupid question but how do I find that out?


If you've been using it for 18 months, then I don't see how the suggestion is valid. :?
#13
thesaint
If you've been using it for 18 months, then I don't see how the suggestion is valid. :?


mmm true its definatly been a decline thing.....
#14
Did you find last winter you were turning up a lot higher?it maybe that it just isnt man enough for what you need.Sorry not too much help lol but as i have found once the mains water gets colder in the winter you do need to turn the dial higher.maybe it has just had it?get in touch with the manufacturers and see what they say.
[mod] 1 Like #15
Some showers have 2 elements, so in the summer when the cold water feed is actually warm to start with heat position 1 will be ample, but in the winter when the feed water is near freezing you need position 2 which brings in both elements together. Its a possibility that one of the elements has failed causing you to have to turn up the dial (effectively reducing the speed of the water past the elements) to get it to heat quick enough.
If position 1 element is broken you can test for this by switching it to position 1 and feeling if the water is warm at all, if its still at the same temp as the cold shower position then that element has failed. If its warm then like it is when on position 2 then the element for position 2 has broken.

Now tell me you have a cheap shower with only 1 heating position!
#16
bobbybox
Did you find last winter you were turning up a lot higher?it maybe that it just isnt man enough for what you need.Sorry not too much help lol but as i have found once the mains water gets colder in the winter you do need to turn the dial higher.


Nope last winter twas the dogs danglies toasty hot and only half turned round.
perhaps I should just smack it with a hammer :x
#17
Sounds like a new shower is in order. I work for a Housing Association and we only fit Mira Advance showers. They are thermostatically controlled, so getting the temperature right is easy.
#18
MikeT
Some showers have 2 elements, so in the summer when the cold water feed is actually warm to start with heat position 1 will be ample, but in the winter when the feed water is near freezing you need position 2 which brings in both elements together. Its a possibility that one of the elements has failed causing you to have to turn up the dial (effectively reducing the speed of the water past the elements) to get it to heat quick enough.
If position 1 element is broken you can test for this by switching it to position 1 and feeling if the water is warm at all, if its still at the same temp as the cold shower position then that element has failed. If its warm then like it is when on position 2 then the element for position 2 has broken.

Now tell me you have a cheap shower with only 1 heating position!


nah I've got one of the 2 heat setting jobs. Can I get it fixed then or do I need a new chuffin shower?
#19
Foxy102
Sounds like a new shower is in order. I work for a Housing Association and we only fit Mira Advance showers. They are thermostatically controlled, so getting the temperature right is easy.

thats the one we've got downstairs the one upstairs is different
#20
So must be the element as mike has said,mine has two settings but i only use the what i call winter one .What make of shower is it? be cheaper prob to get a new one,you can get a 10.5khw for about a £100 I would think
#21
bobbybox
So must be the element as mike has said,mine has two settings but i only use the what i call winter one .What make of shower is it?


Its an aura LX200 (I just had to haul my butt upthe stairs to look :lol: )
#22
jennybubbles
Its an aura LX200 (I just had to haul my butt upthe stairs to look :lol: )


Sorry lol i've got an opal triton which i've had about seven years now and its been really good,but as i say i'm no expert others may have a different view..:)
[mod]#23
Most showers have a 2yr warranty so you could be in luck if you follow my tests and can find the reciept etc.
#24
MikeT
Most showers have a 2yr warranty so you could be in luck if you follow my tests and can find the reciept etc.


Unlikly since the chuffing builder put it in and has since moved to england :x

Still at least I know I need a new one now and can hit the january sales :-D
[helper]#25
Plumbers I've spoken to in the past have all recommended Mira showers. They tend to be a bit more expensive but Mira also guarantee to have spare parts available for 10 years after the shower is discontinued (well they used to when we got our shower installed a couple of years ago)......

If you are buying a new one you need to check what power rating your current one is. When ours was fitted the cabling had to be "upgraded" because we went for a higher wattage shower than the one that was there previously. A thicker cable had to be installed. You might not have this problem if you have a recently built house......but you might want to check with an electrician.
banned#26
best place for cheap plumbing stuff:-

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/value-electric-showers-1679-0000

go for an 11.5KWH shower or higher

or even [url]www.screwfix.com[/url] (excellent forum on here for all DIY advice)
#27
On a similar subject, I have one of these

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/91420/Bathrooms/Showers/Mixer-Showers/Thermostatic/Thermostatic-Dual-Control-Shower-Fixed-Kit#

Apparently they are made by Pegler (the best make in plumbing). It is a seriouslt nice shower. Combine it with a pump for extra pressure and you can't go wrong...:thumbsup:

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