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5y, 5m agoPosted 5 years, 5 months ago
just had new discs and pads at the front and also a new cv joint front offside, the gear stick now vibrates strongly whilst accelerating, so much so you can see it bouncing around, this does not stop when you put your hand on it, it's a very strong vibration and it certainly didn't do it before, the car seems wobbly but not sure if this is because you can see the gearstick trying to shake itself out of the car, any ideas would be greatly appreciated, I did take it back and the mechanic didn't seem to think there was a problem, thought maybe it was me being a paranoid female so asked oh to take it out and he said no there is def something wrong so any ideas before I take it back again? Any help would be much appreciated, it's a citroen xsara vtr 1.6 if that has any relevance.
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1 Like #1
Nothing to do with discs and pads. Was it an inner or outer CV joint?
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1 Like #4
Would be hard to tell without looking at or driving it, However since you've had a new cv joint I suspect it could be something to do with that, Perhaps not fitted correctly and vibrating through the drive shaft to the gearbox.

Does it brake ok? Any noises other than the gearbox?
1 Like #5
could be the gear box mounting bolts or engine mounting bolts are loose
but more than likely is the actual gear stick assembly
i had a vauxhall corsa it happened to me
it was a rubber spacer packing material under the gear knob.
the gear knob shook violently
do not know your car you my need a complete gear knob assembly
i suggest you pull the rubber gaitor from the floor under your gear knob and have a look to see if anything is missing
1 Like #6
anewman
Nothing to do with discs and pads. Was it an inner or outer CV joint?

you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

@johnnytwotoes and dimebar
after re reading what I wrote I agree there are a ridiculous amount of commas, BUT I am asking for help with my car not my grammar!! :P
#7
shauneco
Would be hard to tell without looking at or driving it, However since you've had a new cv joint I suspect it could be something to do with that, Perhaps not fitted correctly and vibrating through the drive shaft to the gearbox.

Does it brake ok? Any noises other than the gearbox?

It breaks fine, no noises not even from the gearbox, just the crazy vibration.
#8
juiceblaster
you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

It will therefore be an outer, and they should not have touched the gearbox - unless they replaced the entire drive shaft.

As someone mentions above, it could be the gear linkage. Does the actual gear lever feel more loose?

It may well be related to something the garage has done or an accident of theirs - but getting them to admit it will be a near impossibility. Your only chance is if you can get an independent specialist report which says it is indisputably their fault - then you could take them to court.
#9
juiceblaster
anewman
Nothing to do with discs and pads. Was it an inner or outer CV joint?

you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

@johnnytwotoes and dimebar
after re reading what I wrote I agree there are a ridiculous amount of commas, BUT I am asking for help with my car not my grammar!! :P



That would be an outer joint. There should be no viibration as a result of the works carried out. I would guestimate the problem to be related to the cv joint. Either not fitted correctly or faulty/incorrect part for the car. Does it steer ok full lock to full lock without any unusual noises? Also, does this happen at any certain speeds or all the time?

Edited By: The Therapist on Jun 10, 2011 23:32
#10
anewman
juiceblaster
you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

It will therefore be an outer, and they should not have touched the gearbox - unless they replaced the entire drive shaft.

As someone mentions above, it could be the gear linkage. Does the actual gear lever feel more loose?

It may well be related to something the garage has done or an accident of theirs - but getting them to admit it will be a near impossibility. Your only chance is if you can get an independent specialist report which says it is indisputably their fault - then you could take them to court.


gear lever feels no different apart from the vibration.


The Therapist
juiceblaster
anewman
Nothing to do with discs and pads. Was it an inner or outer CV joint?

you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

@johnnytwotoes and dimebar
after re reading what I wrote I agree there are a ridiculous amount of commas, BUT I am asking for help with my car not my grammar!! :P



That would be an outer joint. There should be no viibration as a result of the works carried out. I would guestimate the problem to be related to the cv joint. Either not fitted correctly or faulty/incorrect part for the car. Does it steer ok full lock to full lock without any unusual noises? Also, does this happen at any certain speeds or all the time?


Steers fine, haven't had it on full lock though, will check tomorrow, along with gear linkage as suggested above.
Only happens under acceleration, once driving at steady pace it doesn't happen. (hope that makes sense)
edit no the entire drive shaft was not replaced.


Edited By: juiceblaster on Jun 10, 2011 23:41
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juiceblaster
anewman
juiceblaster
you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

It will therefore be an outer, and they should not have touched the gearbox - unless they replaced the entire drive shaft.

As someone mentions above, it could be the gear linkage. Does the actual gear lever feel more loose?

It may well be related to something the garage has done or an accident of theirs - but getting them to admit it will be a near impossibility. Your only chance is if you can get an independent specialist report which says it is indisputably their fault - then you could take them to court.


gear lever feels no different apart from the vibration.


The Therapist
juiceblaster
anewman
Nothing to do with discs and pads. Was it an inner or outer CV joint?

you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

@johnnytwotoes and dimebar
after re reading what I wrote I agree there are a ridiculous amount of commas, BUT I am asking for help with my car not my grammar!! :P



That would be an outer joint. There should be no viibration as a result of the works carried out. I would guestimate the problem to be related to the cv joint. Either not fitted correctly or faulty/incorrect part for the car. Does it steer ok full lock to full lock without any unusual noises? Also, does this happen at any certain speeds or all the time?


Steers fine, haven't had it on full lock though, will check tomorrow, along with gear linkage as suggested above.
Only happens under acceleration, once driving at steady pace it doesn't happen. (hope that makes sense)
edit no the entire drive shaft was not replaced.



Many of the French cars (Citroen/Renault/Peugeot) requires the complete driveshaft to be removed & dismantled (including removing the inner cv joint) as part of the repair process. If this was done on your car, the driveshaft inner may have failed or not refitted correctly. If you are a member of the AA/RAC, it may be worth a call out if you phone them and explain you don't feel safe driving it. At least then, you'd have a second opinion.
#12
Thanks the therapist, I am a member of the AA so will give them a call for a second opinion. :)
#13
This could be a couple of things. If they have hit the cv joint hard to remove it then the driveshaft could be out of shape. They are quite weak driveshafts and they can't stand much abuse. I always change shafts on French cars rather than just the joint for that reason.
The other option could be a simple as wheel balancing. It's possible that as they have removed the wheel they may have just let it fall to the floor. This can cause the balance weights to move or even fall off. Is there any vibration through the steering wheel?
#14
The Therapist
juiceblaster
anewman
Nothing to do with discs and pads. Was it an inner or outer CV joint?

you mean there is 2 oh dear! Sorry no idea, the grease from inside the joint was all over the alloy if that helps answer the question.

@johnnytwotoes and dimebar
after re reading what I wrote I agree there are a ridiculous amount of commas, BUT I am asking for help with my car not my grammar!! :P



That would be an outer joint. There should be no viibration as a result of the works carried out. I would guestimate the problem to be related to the cv joint. Either not fitted correctly or faulty/incorrect part for the car. Does it steer ok full lock to full lock without any unusual noises? Also, does this happen at any certain speeds or all the time?

I'll go with that. Just because somethings new doesn't mean its not faulty. They could have bent the driveshaft or damaged the inner joint as well. All academic without seeing it firsthand. Also as its OSF it probably has a balance weight on the shaft. If thats been knocked out of position it could cause the vibration.
1 Like #15
MentalMouse
This could be a couple of things. If they have hit the cv joint hard to remove it then the driveshaft could be out of shape. They are quite weak driveshafts and they can't stand much abuse. I always change shafts on French cars rather than just the joint for that reason.
The other option could be a simple as wheel balancing. It's possible that as they have removed the wheel they may have just let it fall to the floor. This can cause the balance weights to move or even fall off. Is there any vibration through the steering wheel?


Weights falling off wouldn't normally be noticed until car picks up speed - 25mph upwards and would be present irrespective of accelerating or not. My understanding of the OP's concern seems isolated on acceleratingfrom pulling away and the gearstick wants to jump out of the car. This would not normally be a sign of wheel balance issue. Wheel balance would be felt through the steering. My personal thoughts are that it is transmission related. As the driveshaft is designed to transfer the drive and power through to the roadwheels, it would take a lot of hammering to distort it. It would near enough be impossible to bend the driveshaft during the course of repair of the cv joint. It is therefore more probable it is linked to the cv joint (inner or outer) or the fitment of. Again, these are all theories until it can be inspected, but this is my two pence worth.
#16
Turns out it has nothing to do with any of the work that was done, it's one of the engine mounts!!
Thanks fo rall the help and advice :)))

Edited By: juiceblaster on Jun 14, 2011 15:01: edit

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