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Any1 got a VW Polo 1999-2001 1.4 TDI - only 50mp should it be higher

Shazarda Avatar
6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
need some help,

i have a vw polo 1.4tdi its a y reg and its only giviing 50mpg wanting to know if thats right or if it should be higher, book says it supposed to be in 70 region, but not sure if its total balls or summat wrong with my car,

if you have got one or have had one an think it sounds low let me know, coz then il go give it to a vw specialist to get it sorted, asked a garage an they aint got a clue, they think 50 is great, but i know that since its a small car it should give it bit more than that sure,

any help would be great,

Please only comment if you have a vw polo - thanks

thanks
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6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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#1
Doubt it very much that you will get over 50mpg out of a minimum 5 year old car. No way would it be 70.

I'd be happy with 50 from a car that age.
#2
it does shift quite well through town, and mpg shouldnt detiorate regardless of age, unless you dont look after the car
banned#3
Shazarda
it does shift quite well through town, and mpg shouldnt detiorate regardless of age, unless you dont look after the car


You expect 70mpg while "shifting it" through town?

Just wow!

If you are getting 50mpg, you should be over the moon.
#4
no lol, i get 50 mpg when on the motorway, regardless of speed, obv my speed is constant to get 50 lol, i get 40/45 when ripping it through town and its very nippy lol :P
#5
Shazarda
no lol, i get 50 mpg when on the motorway, regardless of speed, obv my speed is constant to get 50 lol, i get 40/45 when ripping it through town and its very nippy lol :P


I do hope that you don't end up with someone's child tangled on the front of your car while you are " ripping " it through town.

:roll:
#6
close all the windows, throw out the passengers and then throw out anything in the car that isn't supposed to be in there. turn off the a/c if you have it - in fact turn off everything. Get on the Motorway and drive at 55mph.. ignore the lorries screaming past you.. and you might stand a chance of getting near 70mpg :whistling:
#7
lol, i get 50 with a full set of passengers and car fully loaded at 90mph (engine is opened up) also get same 50mpg at 70mph and thats when car is empty an nothing in car, dont have ac lol just fan air lol
#8
children are avoided at great care, although tempted with little blighters crossin roads when they shouldnt be lol, generally driving through main town ripping it lol at night, when children should be tucked in bed safely lol!
#9
Shazarda
lol, i get 50 with a full set of passengers and car fully loaded at 90mph (engine is opened up) also get same 50mpg at 70mph and thats when car is empty an nothing in car, dont have ac lol just fan air lol


ooh look at me i've got a ten year old VW - you make me sick tbf :roll:
#10
The mini cooper diesel model is said to do about 67 mpg, I could only get upper 40's out of it. I would be happy you are getting 50 to be honest with you.

Age of car does make a difference btw.
#11
I would love 50mpg, on the motorway I get 28mpg, if I am having fun and driving on boost it drops to 18mpg or less!
I am yet to achieve the mpg figures that have been quoted by manufacturers.

I would imagine to achieve 70mpg you would have to drive like driving miss daisy and employ every fuel saving technique known.
#12
If you think these 1.4 are fast check out the previous shape 1.4 16v 100 or 110bhp.
#13
Shazarda
children are avoided at great care, although tempted with little blighters crossin roads when they shouldnt be lol, generally driving through main town ripping it lol at night, when children should be tucked in bed safely lol!


Kids may be, nobody else is.:roll:
#14
Captain Hook
close all the windows, throw out the passengers and then throw out anything in the car that isn't supposed to be in there. turn off the a/c if you have it - in fact turn off everything. Get on the Motorway and drive at 55mph.. ignore the lorries screaming past you.. and you might stand a chance of getting near 70mpg :whistling:


remove the spare tyre, remove all seats, but sparco race seats in (only two needed) remove carpets, then he might get it

Shazarda
lol, i get 50 with a full set of passengers and car fully loaded at 90mph (engine is opened up) also get same 50mpg at 70mph and thats when car is empty an nothing in car, dont have ac lol just fan air lol


wow strong law breaking
banned#15
70 mpg will be extra urban

your 50mpg will be an average of urban and extra urban

just because it says 70 mpg in the book doesnt mean you will get 10 mpg. The tests done to obtain this figure are ridiculous
#16
dimebars
70 mpg will be extra urban

your 50mpg will be an average of urban and extra urban

just because it says 70 mpg in the book doesnt mean you will get 10 mpg. The tests done to obtain this figure are ridiculous


Exactly, no one really drives at 10mph below the limit on all roads and on the motorway at 30mph in 5th...

I bet you can get 70mph if you go on the motorway stick it in 5th and do 30mph for many miles...just remember no braking and no accelerating :thumbsup:
banned#17
the test to verify the urban/extra urban MPG isnt actually carried out IN the car.

the engine is bench-tested with a miniscule amount of fuel and extrapolated from those results.
#18
*crying*

I get (at best) 20mpg from my adorable car.
#19
whatsThePoint
I regularly do over 100mph on the roads near me and the local coppers don't mind


as long as you are doing 100mph on the local roads where the schools are thats fine, bit this guy seems to think its ok to do 90 on a motorway. disgusting
#20
Something doesn't sound right - my nine year old Octavia 1.9 (VW engine) used to get over 60mpg if driven gently at motorway speeds although it needed a gentle right foot. I assume you've checked the obvious such as your tyre pressures?

John
#21
numptyj
as long as you are doing 100mph on the local roads where the schools are thats fine, bit this guy seems to think its ok to do 90 on a motorway. disgusting


lolol.

My friend did 110mph in his 1.4 polo on the motorway.:roll:
#22
MarzBarz
lolol.

My friend did 110mph in his 1.4 polo on the motorway.:roll:


WHAT

THE

:p
#23
whatsThePoint
I slow down in populated area's but other than that i go as fast as i can, 180mph on main A road no problem on motorbike


Can you make sure you carry your Organ Donor card in a water proof wallet :whistling:
#24
MarzBarz
lolol.

My friend did 110mph in his 1.4 polo on the motorway.:roll:


If he gets caught doing that he'll get a ban and a fine. Anything more than 30 over the limit is treated as very serious by the police and courts.

For example:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2009/11/06/ban-for-ray-quinn-in-110mph-shame-100252-25103420/
#25
whatsThePoint
I slow down in populated area's but other than that i go as fast as i can, 180mph on main A road no problem on motorbike


180MPH no problem? Bull. You are travelling 110+ MPH faster than most other traffic. Dodging them at that speed is dangerous. You may as well be travelling at 60MPH the wrong way down the road. The relative speeds would be the same. Accelerating to that speed's no problem, but slowing down to zero would take a long distance.

If you came across a jack-knifed lorry in the road you'd be screwed. And if you got caught it would be a prison sentence.

I've seen one biker die by accelerating into a blind bend only to find a sports car overtaking a tractor coming the other way. If he had waited a few more seconds before letting rip he would have lived. He hit the car, broke the bike in two and ended up 30 yards further down the road. I wouldn't want to see the effect of a 180MPH bike hitting something stationary, let alone coming the other way.

180MPH is just plain stupid. That just makes you a blood donor. Or a prison bitch. Whichever comes first.
#26
thanks for all your comments., some people obv shocked at doing 90mph on a motorway, but when its quiet at night, with very few cars an you want to go home then no probs,

to the sunday drivers, you cant drive, you barely know how to drive an hold the wheel with two hands like the cars gonna do sumthing stupid ata 30mph road then wat do you expect

the figures in manual is 76 extra urban, so i would of thought around 60 should of been fine, but to really know i need another person who has the same car an same engine who can truly validify the comment!!

Cheers for all the comments guys
#27
whatsThePoint
Before you mouth off maybe you should check a few things first

1 Are you saying Suzuki sell a bike that is capable of in excess of 180mph but if you go that fast its 100% certain you will crash?

2 I'm doing a lot less than 110mph more than anyone else, most other bikes are doing the same sort of speed and if you have a fast car it will be going fast as well

[COLOR="Red"]3 check my location, doing 180mph is not a crime if there is no law against it[/COLOR]


He does have a point:

Unlike the UK there is no national speed limit. There are speed restrictions in built up areas, but after passing a 'National Speed Limit' sign there ceases to be any speed restriction, [COLOR="Red"]although people driving in a reckless manner may well be stopped by the police[/COLOR].
1 Like #28
whatsThePoint
thanks for that Midland

Perhaps i also need to point out IOM stands for Isle Of Man and i've yet to hear of anyone being stopped for driving/riding in reckless manner just because they were going fast


didnt even see your location, guess it makes sense that you could do those speeds, whether people think those speeds are safe or not is another matter.

Are a lot of the roads straight out there, i know the TT course is there but im not sure of the layout, do you get many cars doing fast speeds, say 120+ out there?
#29
Back on topic....

Make sure the car has had a service fuel filter and air filter, tyres are inflated correctly.

Is the car standard? (you haven't slapped any alloys of a different size on it?

Were the emissions spot on at your last MOT?


Its very easy to over rev the 1.4tdi its has a very short rev range between 1st and 3rd and in order to get that turbo to sing you tend to over rev thus screwing your MPG.

50MPG doesn't shock me sounds somewhere near, I would say its more down to your driving style.

To whoever mentioned the 1.9 Octavia, yes you will get better MPG the revs have a much better range and its a completely different engine.
#30
Inactive
I do hope that you don't end up with someone's child tangled on the front of your car while you are " ripping " it through town.

:roll:


children should not be on the roads. lmo.
#31
whatsThePoint
Before you mouth off maybe you should check a few things first

1 Are you saying Suzuki sell a bike that is capable of in excess of 180mph but if you go that fast its 100% certain you will crash?

2 I'm doing a lot less than 110mph more than anyone else, most other bikes are doing the same sort of speed and if you have a fast car it will be going fast as well

3 check my location, doing 180mph is not a crime if there is no law against it


Sorry - I hadn't noticed your location. That's pretty unusual. Certainly if you were driving mainland UK then what I said would have been pretty accurate. I do stand by the fact that slowing down will take a long distance though. A lot of people under-estimate the fact that bikes go from 0-100 very quickly but take much longer to slow down.

While its not illegal in your area or anywhere near as unsafe as riding on a mainland A-road like that, I'd still have thought it was it's relatively dangerous to ride any bike at that sort of speed. It's certainly not low-risk and any accidents are going to be nasty at those sorts of speeds. Like I said, I've seen one biker die in a crash and I really don't want to hear about another one! I guess witnessing that accident left me quite sensitive to the subject.
#32
whatsThePoint
What makes you say its dangerous, the bike is built having had 100's of hours testing at all speeds to ensure its safe to use the performance, on a clear day with dry roads its probably safer at 180 than riding in the rain at 50

Don't know the full details on the accident you witnessed but it sounds like rider error and not something that would happen if he was taking other road users and the road conditions into account
Would you be saying cars are relatively dangerous if you had witness someone lose control at low speed, mount the pavement and kill a baby in a pram as in this story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249796/Baby-killed-Accrington-car-crash-pensioner-loses-control.html
So while bikes can be dangerous if something goes wrong its usually only the rider (+ pillion) who pays the price and not a pedestrian, so which one is safer ?



Hear hear. Bikes kill bikers (occasionally). I'm a biker myself, and whilst hubby hates it, I once gave him the choice - I'll smoke, or I'll bike. (Mainly because he suggested my biking was selfish - I was trying to make the point it's not). Smoking will kill me, my family and those around me, biking may or may not kill me. If it does it'll be my own stupid fault, of that I'm almost certain.
#33
Simple law of conservation of momentum really. Any mistake/problem at 180MPH is likely to be fatal. Reaction and braking distances will be longer (yes, probably much longer than 50mph in the rain). And yes, of course cars going faster than the conditions allow are dangerous.

Bike testing is irrelevant. Even if the conditions are perfect your reaction times at very high speeds mean that any problems arising will see you travelling a significant distance before you hit the brakes, and braking time is also longer. If you are happy with that increased level of risk then fine, but personally I wouldn't feel safe at those speeds.

The accident I saw was only partially rider error - the car he hit was on the wrong side of the road on a bend.
He did accelerate too early. Unfortunately I see bad riding and driving that all too often. I'm certainly much more careful on bends since I saw that.
#34
whatsThePoint
I didn't say cars travelling faster than the conditions allow, Cars travelling at the 30mph speed limit kill pedestrians on a daily basis, Its rare for a bike to mount the pavement and kill someone


That isn't too surprising really. There are far more cars than bikes on the road, probably 10x as many or more. In the busiest times of day the bikes less likely to mount the pavement as they are often closer to the center of the road anyway - overtaking large numbers of cars in the rush hour traffic (okay, I may be a bit jealous there!). On the rare occasion that a bike does mount the pavement, the chances of hitting a pedestrian are less, given the reduced width of the vehicle and the extra manoeuvrability that the bike has. A bike hit is also less likely to be fatal as the mass is smaller so an impact at the same speed as a car will have less momentum. It is also less likely to be head-on as the biker is more likely to be able to swerve. Finally I would have thought that you would be far less likely to have a drunk biker than a drunk car driver - and quite a high proportion of that sort of accident are alcohol related.

whatsThePoint
On a clear road with no hedges for anything to hid in, what is this reason to brake to stop so suddenly that you keep referring to?


Here my ignorance of the IOM is showing again. I hadn't realised that the roads were quite so straight and with such a good line of vision. That's unusual in the UK. The only place I've come across roads like that is in the southwest of the USA, where you can see road for miles ahead often with little or no other signs of traffic. Lovely!

The sudden stops don't have to be very sudden though. Accoring to this: http://bikeraware.com/stats_stopping.htm at 100kph you would expect a biker to take about 2.75 seconds to stop, from the point that he sees a problem ahead. The stopping distance is given as about 37 metres. That's about 60mph so at 180mph you would be closer to 100 metres to come to a full stop. Even if your brakes are quite a lot better I doubt you'd manage to stop in less than 70 metres on a much better bike. That's a fair old distance to be looking ahead for problems. And that's assuming you are 100% on the ball and don't get distracted by something for a second or more.

EDIT - just re-read that web site: "An alert and fit rider needs 0.75 of a second thinking time. That means that at 50 mph you'll travel 15 metres before you begin to brake." So at 180mph thinking time is over 50 meters. Added to your 70+ meters for braking time that's quite a long way to travel before you stop!

whatsThePoint
The rider should of been sure his exit was clear before accelerating, While that sounds hard you have to look out for what everyone else is doing as well as yourself when riding a bike


That's the problem with riding a bike. You make a bad mistake and you are in deep trouble. Some prat in a car makes a mistake and it's still you who are in trouble. No wonder the A&E departments of hospitals tend to refer to motor bike riders as bood doners.
#35
car is regularly serviced, every 3000 miles with new oil lol and air filter, very pinickity lol :P, tyres regularly checked before every major journey :D
#36
whatsThePoint
My point was that if you drive a car you are a danger to other people, if your on a bike your only likely to kill yourself
so which is the most dangerous


I think we're both making the same point here from opposing viewpoints! When I was saying that a bike is more dangerous I was meaning to drive - ie from the driver's point of view. You are saying that a car is more dangerous from a pedestrian's point of view and I think I effectively said that in my last long post - albeit in a very long winded way! :).

Anyway, we're way off topic here. I doubt that you'll ever convince me that 180mph is "safe" (still from a driver's point of view) and I doubt I'll convince you that it isn't. But that's okay because it's not me that's riding the bike!

Back to the original topic methinks! :thumbsup:
#37
Shazarda
car is regularly serviced, every 3000 miles with new oil lol and air filter, very pinickity lol :P, tyres regularly checked before every major journey :D


Damn, that's impressive! I don't have any "major" journeys - just to and from work - so the tyres only get checked about once a month. It's too easy to forget.

With the sort of treatment your car is getting I'd expect you to be getting pretty close to optimal performance. Have you tried a high octane petrol like Shell Optimax or Formula Shell - (or whatever they are calling their high octane product this week)? The Shell high-end products have cleaners in it designed to remove sooty deposits and residues which build up in the engine over time. Might be worth a tankful to see if it makes any difference?
#38
Shazarda
car is regularly serviced, every 3000 miles with new oil lol and air filter, very pinickity lol :P, tyres regularly checked before every major journey :D


The company I work for sent it in every year regardless of mileage.
Tyres checked??? What's that, I think they check the pressures at the service??? I hope..
#39
Shazarda
car is regularly serviced, every 3000 miles with new oil lol and air filter, very pinickity lol :P, tyres regularly checked before every major journey :D


Sounds like everythings fine in that case. Although the Airfilter is a swine to get to on them and TBH not all places change them as often as you might think.

As I have said 50mpg is about right for every day driving, if you sat on a motorway from full to empty tank doing 60mph you would probaby get 65mpg, but in all honesty 50mpg across the board is about right.

I wouldn't worry
#40
even when i have done 50 on an all day run lol, doesnt make a diff lol,

doesnt make sense

none of this car does, wil stick vag com again on it tomoz

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