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Anybody else think these two shouldn't have been shot?

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banned8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7604171.stm

Okay they were pointing a gun at someone they can be shot for that, but the fact they had committed 20 robberies prior to this shooting would indicate they aren't going to start shooting anyone unless they fought back.

I can think of a lot more deserving people to be shot on the spot, murderers/rapists and paedophiles.

Why can't armed officers shoot their hands anyway, seen it on that American video of that guy threatening to shoot himself in the head.
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banned8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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banned#1
#2
Scum, deserved to die IMO, say no more
#3
It's not easy to just shoot someone in the hand, it's a much smaller target.
banned#4
if someone is threatening to shoot themself then i would imagine it makes sense to not go for the heart, otherwise they neednt bother shooting, if someone is aiming a gun at someone else then to me it makes sense to disarm them by any means ness
banned#5
I used to work in security and was held up once, they should be shot!
#6
live by the sword die by the sword
ive got no sympathy
#7
If the criminal is armed then their fair game whether they want to shoot themselves or not. From the police point of view they represent an immediate danger to the public and them. As far as I'm concerned the cops did the right thing.
#8
Yes, they deserve to be shot. They were in the public eye, police are very careful when opening fire, they can't just go shooting willy nilly like American police do. Every bullet is a ton of paperwork here. Police start shooting the hands of armed thugs and thugs start working their way around it. Police don't shoot - innocent people die! Shoot on sight is what I say.
#9
Deserved to be shot

Rules of engagement basically state that you can you use whatever force is necessary as long as it is proportional to the threat

When I was in the Navy I would have shot anyone without hesitating had they pointed a gun at me or anyone else I had a duty to protect

Your are supposed to give 3 warnings, i.e. Royal Navy halt or I fire but circumstances don't always allow that

As for shooting their hands lol

The hand is such a small area, so easy to move so by aiming for the hand you maximize the chance of missing and injuring an innocent person or giving the gunman a chance to return fire. Also they have two hands, shooting one does not mean they can't fire. Plus the gunman was moving as were the police even a sniper would have had difficulty making that shot.

Always go for the torso as it gives you the biggest target
#10
Deserved conclusion.
banned#11
Should have seen my grouping after 3 goes with a .22 rifle at just 13 lol I imagine after a 3 years training I could shoot a pea in hay bail :lol:
banned#12
lumoruk
Should have seen my grouping after 3 goes with a .22 rifle at just 13 lol I imagine after a 3 years training I could shoot a pea in hay bail :lol:


peas dont move, not are they armed although i now know someone is going to google to prove me wrong - lol
#13
sassie
peas dont move - lol


Poddingtons do
#14
desrved to be shot,,what if 1 of the guards was your partner and the robbers shot him/her,,,im sure you would then blame the police for not shooting them
banned#15
scoobydoobydooo
desrved to be shot,,what if 1 of the guards was your partner and the robbers shot him/her,,,im sure you would then blame the police for not shooting them


Exactly, stuff the criminals :thumbsup:
#16
They deserved it. The police had to protect the public and they done that well in this case
banned#17
okay lets change the subject, my 8% APR savings account has matured (come to an end) and I've now got some money to go into a savings account where's the best place? It's just under £5k nothing big :cry:
banned#18
lumoruk
okay lets change the subject, my 8% APR savings account has matured (come to an end) and I've now got some money to go into a savings account where's the best place? It's just under £5k nothing big :cry:


£5k, will you marry me :oops:
banned#19
lumoruk
okay lets change the subject, my 8% APR savings account has matured (come to an end) and I've now got some money to go into a savings account where's the best place? It's just under £5k nothing big :cry:


try your luck with ernies bonds, you never now ya luck:thumbsup:
#20
Deserved it.
#21
"Anybody else think these two shouldn't have been shot?"

That'd be a resounding 'no' then :thumbsup:
banned#22
sassie
try your luck with ernies bonds, you never now ya luck:thumbsup:


Who? I think I might go with Nationwide's 1 year fixed rate 6.15% ISA will be my 3rd ISA account though :lol:

National premium bonds? I've had some since I was born and have never ever won :x

Tintern1981
"Anybody else think these two shouldn't have been shot?"

That'd be a resounding 'no' then :thumbsup:


yes I got the picture ;-)
#23
This thread by the way highlights exactly what is wrong with British culture

Our Police cannot go and do their job without being criticised. They protected the public that day from armed criminals yet instead of being asked if they deserve a medal their decisions are being questioned.

It wont be too long before an innocent person is killed because police refused to shoot the criminal for fear of a public backlash.
banned#24
RedIron
This thread by the way highlights exactly what is wrong with British culture

Our Police cannot go and do their job without being criticised. They protected the public that day from armed criminals yet instead of being asked if they deserve a medal their decisions are being questioned.

It wont be too long before an innocent person is killed because police refused to shoot the criminal for fear of a public backlash.


I just think armed police have become too trigger happy with what happened in London's tube and that innocent bloke running to catch his train.

...So I need to put away £250 a month as well, I'll need another savings account with good interest
#25
lumoruk;3108752
I just think armed police have become too trigger happy with what happened in London's tube and that innocent bloke running to catch his train.


I would say that was an exception.. i dont think they have become trigger happy, we dont hear it everyday about how the police have gunned innocent peopel down.. we just hear the same story over and over
#26
lumoruk
I just think armed police have become too trigger happy with what happened in London's tube and that innocent bloke running to catch his train.


Out of the 3000 (I think that's right?) gun related incidents in the UK each year I can only remember 2 incidents when an innocent person was shot, 1 was the Brazilian who ran from the police and the other was the man with the chair leg who refused to put it down :?

EDIT: 18489 gun related incidents in England & Wales in 06/07 apparently
banned#27
My friend killed himself on 13th October 2006, he was in a violent robbery 5 month's earlier.

He was kicked all over Tesco's car park for doing his job.

He became so depressed afterwards and ended his life, he was only 35 year's old.
#28
lumoruk;3108752
I just think armed police have become too trigger happy with what happened in London's tube and that innocent bloke running to catch his train.


I don't think they have, I know people who are in Army but haven't been sent on active duty for years as they refuse to use their weapons in fear of the consequences. Soon it wont be long before members of our police force take the same stance and we'll have all these yobs running around with guns whilst the police refuse to take action.

Someone f***ed up with Jean Charles de Menezes but in my opinion that wasn't the men who killed him. They thought he was a terror suspect who had every intention of detonating a bomb on the train. In reality they had no choice but to shoot. I wouldn't say they was trigger happy at all.

That day was a major c*ck up of intel

What would your reactions have been if you ha been told that he was a terror suspect and you believed that he was carrying explosives with the intention of detonating them?

I would have shot too
#29
Dumb people who think anyone deserves to be shot, deserve to be shot. :thinking: hmm... but that means I deserve to be shot just for saying that you dumb asses deserve to be shot.. :? Oh well, I must be dumb to respond to this dumb nonsense anyway; I probably do deserve to be shot. Or worse - to be locked in a room with a bunch of Daily Mail readers!. :thinking: Ah jeez! I'm already there, aren't I?! Gawdammit, I am so dumb. Will I never learn? :roll:

EDIT: I love you all really, despite your dumbfundity.
#30
Liddle ol' me
Dumb people who think anyone deserves to be shot, deserve to be shot. :thinking: hmm... but that means I deserve to be shot just for saying that you dumb asses deserve to be shot.. :? Oh well, I must be dumb to respond to this dumb nonsense anyway; I probably do deserve to be shot. Or worse - to be locked in a room with a bunch of Daily Mail readers!. :?:thinking: Ah jeez! I'm already there, aren't I?! Gawdammit, I am so dumb. Will I never learn? :roll:


No, atleast the police stopped a robbery, saved some security men that could go home at the end of the day.
#31
Liddle ol' me;3108866
Dumb people who think anyone deserves to be shot, deserve to be shot. :thinking: hmm... but that means I deserve to be shot just for saying that you dumb asses deserve to be shot.. :? Oh well, I must be dumb to respond to this dumb nonsense anyway; I probably do deserve to be shot. Or worse - to be locked in a room with a bunch of Daily Mail readers!. :thinking: Ah jeez! I'm already there, aren't I?! Gawdammit, I am so dumb. Will I never learn? :roll:

EDIT: I love you all really, despite your dumbfundity.


Yes because all of this is just dumb

Thank god no one has given you a gun to protect anyone or even better thank god that no one has ever been given a gun to protect you and then decided not too as even though your life was at risk as they thought they didn't deserve to be shot
#32
Robotochan
Out of the 3000 (I think that's right?) gun related incidents in the UK each year I can only remember 2 incidents when an innocent person was shot, 1 was the Brazilian who ran from the police and the other was the man with the chair leg who refused to put it down :?

EDIT: 18489 gun related incidents in England & Wales in 06/07 apparently


Just to clarify, Jean Charles de Menezes didn't run from the police (or for his train as the earlier poster said).

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