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As title really. Apart from getting my 5 free HD-DVD's and then Transformers as an X-Mas present I must say I am reluctant to invest in HD films, especially as it seems a lot require paying £20 for…
TomWilko Avatar
9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
As title really.

Apart from getting my 5 free HD-DVD's and then Transformers as an X-Mas present I must say I am reluctant to invest in HD films, especially as it seems a lot require paying £20 for a film that is 2 decades old.

I presume these prices are due for a drop soon? I was hoping in the sales, but it seems the best offers are '3 for 2' on very old films I would never dream of paying 6 times the price they are in regular DVD format.

Did I jump to HD too early?
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
I agree. They are way over priced.
Sign-up to the 3-month Lovefilm trial and enjoy free HD films for the next 3 months. They have a quite a good range of HD/Blu-ray films.
banned#2
I absolutely agree. I used to buy at least an SD DVD each month but since getting a PS3, I have not purchased any standard def dvds or Blu-ray as I'm waiting for prices to come down to sensible levels. Its madness that producers expect us to pay £20+ for the blu-ray version of a film you can get on SD for a fiver.

e.g Planet Earth SD = £9.99

Planet Earth HD = £39.99
#3
Your right, most places are very expensive when it comes to buying HD DVD's and even blu-ray. Ive been in the race for HD DVD v Blu for nearly a year with approx 50 titles (HD DVD only).

If you shop around you can get some real "bargains" on HD DVD. First off, importing them isnt a problem as they are region free (unlike blu-ray, although some blu-ray titles are). Amazon.com had a buy one get one free sale on 40 HD DVD's. I bought the mummy, mummy returns, the hurricane and also traffic for £7.50 each. They had the 1st 4 harry potter films which worked out the same.

There are also site like [url]www.tthehut.com[/url] that sell them for £16 or so each (uk based) but when codes fly around you can get them a fair aqmout cheaper for eg... Bourne ultimatum for only £14.40 with quidco and a 10% off code. which is cheaper then going to the shops and buying the standard def edition.

Being an early adoptor can be a pain as I've found put but if you do some hunting, you can get some decentt bargains!!

Hope this helps, if anyone wants to know any other chepaer sites for importing HD DVD's ill be more than happy to give them the info!!

Chris
#4
Too right mate - it's crazy money - but I reckon when they become more established they will come down in price significantly.
#5
One of the advantages of HD DVD is that it's completely region free so you can buy the DVDs from wherever you want - I personally use [url]www.movietyme.com[/url], it's not massively cheaper but you get the films sooner than the UK release and usually a few pounds cheaper.

I tend to buy brand new films on HD DVD rather than older films, Heroes for example was 30 pounds on DVD and 45 pounds on HD DVD, I picked up Transformers for 15 pounds and the SD DVD was around the same at the time. Buying DVDs isn't always cost efficient as it seems, I'm always very wary buying a DVD now in case it is one I decide to go for the HD version later on as buying both removes the saving.

John
#6
It depends where you look.

I have used buy 3 pay for 2 on several sites (HMV, PLAY, ASDA, AMAZON, TESCO) worked out around £12 a film.

You can import films from the USA some of which are region free, they are about £10 - £15 in price and about £3 postage.

Amazon USA did a promo a while back (Buy One Get One Free)

So it really depends where you look.

If you want to walk in to your local high street and pay £23 a film, then yes you are going to get ripped off.

Try this site to check prices of individual films - http://www.find-dvd.co.uk/

This site will let you know if the Blu-Ray film is region free - http://bluray.liesinc.net/

Finally keep an eye on Amazon.com (USA) as they always seem to have a different deal on every other week.

Amazon are currently doing 50% off certain titles, works out £8 - £10 a film plus postage.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000183011&tag=bluraynews-20

Remember to check to see if they will work in a UK Blu-Ray player on this site.
http://bluray.liesinc.net/
#7
Yes, the HD DVD's are way too much and definitely only worth shelling out for on the brand new releases. We have decided to do easyCinema.com and rent HD DVDs to watch on Friday nights on our projector (so good) - yes staying in on Friday nights!! The silly HD DVD prices are unsustainable, they must come down if they are going to vie with Blu-Ray and I reckon that the competition will build up more as the year goes on.
#8
Agreeing with batman..

Most are way too much in price, but i think £13.99 is a reasonable price, i've seen a fair few at this price and have bought one or two blurays.
#9
Just wait then. We all know the cycle as we've had it with DVD and VHS.

Blu-Ray are getting slightly cheaper already, so just give it time.
#10
I wouldnt invest in ether format at the moment ive spent the past 6 years collecting dvds and with my collection pushing 300 i dont want to have the hassle of buying an hd-tv and all the stuff anf the films
#11
dandoc2
I wouldnt invest in ether format at the moment ive spent the past 6 years collecting dvds and with my collection pushing 300 i dont want to have the hassle of buying an hd-tv and all the stuff anf the films


I was in the same boat 10 years ago, I had around over 600 VHS films, some I have bought again on DVD, but not all as I ain't made of money, lol.

I now have over 300 DVD's which I have been collecting for over 10 years when DVD first came out.

I now have started collecting Blu-Ray films, 14 so far as the choice and price is not that great at the moment.

The thing is there will always be change and you just have to take the plunge at some point.

I just could not stand the idea of purchasing DVD's now and think I will probably have to buy them again in HD.
#12
Yeah guys, I wonder why the prices ar etsill high, because the way i look at it is this, if the manufacturer of hd and bluray want both format to catch on, why not sell them at the same price as standard dvd, and people who do not have hd player will say hang on, we are loosing out in terms of video quality, and hence everyone will be forced to buy either aan hd or bluray player to enjoy the quality.
#13
saayinla
Yeah guys, I wonder why the prices ar etsill high, because the way i look at it is this, if the manufacturer of hd and bluray want both format to catch on, why not sell them at the same price as standard dvd, and people who do not have hd player will say hang on, we are loosing out in terms of video quality, and hence everyone will be forced to buy either aan hd or bluray player to enjoy the quality.


I have seen a couple of articles by the manufacturers about this.

The simple reason is profit.

DVD players sell for as cheap as £10 (yep they might be rubbish)
Some DVD's sell for 99p

There is not much profit in the above that is why a lot of cheap DVD players are made in China.

Now if you look at the HD front, Blu Ray players can be anywhere up to a £1,000+ (loads of profit) for high end equipment.

They are in no rush to lower prices as it means less profit.

Already you can see in the LCD / Plasma TV market a few big names have decided they will no longer make certain sets as there is no money in it for them.
#14
Plus im still not sure on the formats --- i mean as soon as lotr is released in high df im buying a 42inch tv and w.e format as i love it
banned#15
I dont want to wait years to find out if there will be a winner (which i dont think there will be) if I can enjoy a title on HD now then I will....and I do!
#16
you get what you pay for.

sure Blu-Ray and HD DVDs are higher priced than DVDs.
but you probably once paid £12.99 for a VHS.

Plus, if you source your movies from ebay stores or second hand you can get new films for quite good prices (AVforums is great for that, I got pirates 3 on BR for £12)
#17
arcsbite
you get what you pay for.

sure Blu-Ray and HD DVDs are higher priced than DVDs.
but you probably once paid £12.99 for a VHS.

Plus, if you source your movies from ebay stores or second hand you can get new films for quite good prices (AVforums is great for that, I got pirates 3 on BR for £12)


lol yep i paid i think £16.99 for kevin and perry go large when it came out
#18
dandoc2;1391022
lol yep i paid i think £16.99 for kevin and perry go large when it came out


haha, that was the 3rd DVD I ever bought (after Practical Magic and Deep Blue Sea....titles were limited!)
banned#19
dandoc2;1390281
I wouldnt invest in ether format at the moment ive spent the past 6 years collecting dvds and with my collection pushing 300 i dont want to have the hassle of buying an hd-tv and all the stuff anf the films

some people still have black & white tvs as well. :whistling::-D
banned#20
I can remember back in 1998 when I first bought into DVD, buying films that were continually on offer from "reel.com". Used to work out at about £12 for 2 films - and got cashback from something similar to quidco! Those were the days!!! No need to wait for the R2 disc to come out - and often for films not released in the cinema in the UK! At the time, standard prices were between £15 to £25 for a DVD in the UK - so was worth it.

Probably have over 1000 films now....though not all kosher and god knows where some of them are! (Dont you just hate the "can I have a loan" brigade who never return them!

Nowadays, the only DVDs I buy will be on spl offer (eg Dr Who Full first series for £6.99) - and I definately aint buying into Bluray or HD-DVD. Just dont think the extra definition is worth the extra dosh. Its not like the difference between VHS and DVD once was. I'm still more than happy with the quality of DVDs and thats what counts.
#21
Cheers for everyone contributing. Looks like I am not the only one with negative feelings to the new formats at the moment.
#22
Some quite interesting comments to read.

The Blu Ray site that shows you if they are region free or not is fantastic!!!!!

I have gone down the Blu Ray route, purely because I have owned a PS3 for 6 months, and I guess this is where Sony hope they will win the format battle!

The only thing that pisses me off, is the like of Bourne and Transformers being restricted to BD DVD only!!!!!!!!!

What a pain in the ****!!!!!
#23
dandoc2
I wouldnt invest in ether format at the moment ive spent the past 6 years collecting dvds and with my collection pushing 300 i dont want to have the hassle of buying an hd-tv and all the stuff anf the films


No-one says you have to re-buy all your DVDs, like many people I have a large DVD collection (Star Trek alone comes to over 200 DVDs) and there's very few I will re-buy on HD DVD unless they are particularly cheap. So far I have only rebought The Matrix collection which was 20 quid (not the utlimate one), V for Vendetta and Serenity. The last two I chose with the player and are both stunning in HD DVD. Most of the titles I've bought are ones I do not own on DVD and that's the way I plan to continue.

As for blu-ray vs HD DVD, ended up with both devices...bit irritating but I don't think either format is going to die anytime soon.

John
#24
TomWilko
Cheers for everyone contributing. Looks like I am not the only one with negative feelings to the new formats at the moment.


yep i like the hd-dvd as they are region free but honestly i dont see it winning as soon as the ps3 starts selling well it will die as not many 360 owners or ppl have hd-dvd players
#25
There's no guarantee the PS3 will ever start selling in the numbers its predecessor used to, with HD DVD prices having dropped as low as 50 quid (for standalone drives) in the US and several of the large stores wanting to get low cost HD DVD drives out there's still plenty of scope for it to go either way. Or more likely I expect there's going to be two formats for a long time yet.

John
#26
Prediction: Blu-ray blows away HD DVD

2008 is the year Sony's Howard Stringer and the Blu-ray Disc will slay HD DVD as effectively as Joseph Turok dispenses with dinosaurs. If you're unfamiliar with that metaphor, you probably don't have a PlayStation 3.

Every PS3 console sold in the U.S. comes equipped with a Blu-ray DVD player. That's an advantage that has put the Sony device in about 2.7 million U.S. homes, compared with fewer than 750,000 for HD DVD. Blu-ray movies also outsell HD DVD movies in Europe by a 3-to-1 margin. This despite HD DVD players costing less than half the price of a PS3/Blu-ray combo unit. True, Paramount, DreamWorks and DreamWorks Animation recently joined Universal in exclusively embracing HD DVD. But those decisions stemmed from a $150 million "incentive payment" that smacked of desperation.

To truly understand Blu-ray's dominance, compare titles that are available in both formats. Warner Bros.' "300" is the best-selling next-gen DVD, and Blu-ray boasts an advantage of 66% to 34% over HD DVD in sales of the title.

The final stake in HD DVD's heart could come from Blockbuster, which is testing both formats. "It's still about 70%-30% in favor of Blu-ray at our stores that offer both," a Blockbuster spokeswoman says.

Dual players are expensive, and a recent Forrester Research study suggests that 22% of Americans say they will not buy a next-gen player until one format wins over the other. Couple that with the 25% who say they'll never buy a next-gen player, and the incentives are in place for Hollywood to finally stop confusing the consumer with one too many choices.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/features/film/e3i3b664324ba4ea5c03e0924ea906b3ecd?imw=Y
#27
"To truly understand Blu-ray's dominance, compare titles that are available in both formats. Warner Bros.' "300" is the best-selling next-gen DVD, and Blu-ray boasts an advantage of 66% to 34% over HD DVD in sales of the title."

Funnily enough this demonstrates how meaningless figures are - both HD DVD and blu-ray are selling nothing in comparison to DVD. Transformers in its first week of sales on normal DVD (ignoring HD DVD), sold almost twice as much as the entire HD-DVD/blu-ray sales (for any title) since they were launched.

Really, what the heck is the point in quoting Sony? They declared the high definition war over earlier this year as having won it already(?), if the PS3 has sold as strongly as the PS2 it's likely blu-ray would have dominance and much better sales figures overall. However it hasn't and some of the sales of cheap HD DVD players show that people are happy to pay for them.

The reality is if you want to enjoy high def, you have to buy both formats....simple as that, as they both have exclusive titles.

John
#28
The price will eventualy drop, but it is still new technology. Dvd's cost a fortune when they first came out. same with VHS.

as demand increases, prices drop
#29
It always happened... can u not remember when DVD first hit the scene... you could get a brand new VHS film for about £9.99 - £12.99, but if you wanted it on DVD you were looking at £19.99 - £24.99. The same thing is happening with DVD and HD DVD... my opinion... just wait... and get on with it.
#30
Batman2
I was in the same boat 10 years ago, I had around over 600 VHS films, some I have bought again on DVD, but not all as I ain't made of money, lol.

I now have over 300 DVD's which I have been collecting for over 10 years when DVD first came out.

I now have started collecting Blu-Ray films, 14 so far as the choice and price is not that great at the moment.

The thing is there will always be change and you just have to take the plunge at some point.

I just could not stand the idea of purchasing DVD's now and think I will probably have to buy them again in HD.

I dont buy dvds that cost more than £6 unless its a boxset - only buy like cheap ones for like £3
banned#31
dandoc2;1448069
I dont buy dvds that cost more than £6 unless its a boxset - only buy like cheap ones for like £3

you have a long wait then to het blu-ray for £3 :whistling:
#32
csiman
you have a long wait then to het blu-ray for £3 :whistling:


Yep thats true - but atm im not forking out £15 for better quality picture when id have to spend £600 on a tv

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