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Hey people! Yes i know, saturday night, at home = LOSER lmao but yea.. thought i'd have a go at asking HUKD, seeing that every audio place i leave a thread seems to have no answers! i think HUKD… Read More
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Hey people!

Yes i know, saturday night, at home = LOSER lmao

but yea.. thought i'd have a go at asking HUKD, seeing that every audio place i leave a thread seems to have no answers! i think HUKD is the only place where at least one person would reply!

But to the point,

Ive got an amp, which well after a hell alot of figuring out, i realised that there wasn't enough power going to my amp. Got a new wiring kit, but the only way of turning it on is when bridging a connection from remote to power (which means it doesnt switch off when the cars turned off!) so im guessing the remote cable doesn't have enough power.. so has anyone had the same problem? or well anyway of fixing it? because i don't really want a amp which drains my battery!

Any help will be much appreciated
Thanks :)
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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#1
What car have you got?
Take a remote live from your cig lighter but when you say it hasn't got enough power, all the remote wire does is send a 12v to switch the amp on.
#2
Ive got a honda civic 54 reg

I was thinking that, but the cig lighter got two wires, one a greenish colour other is a brown i think..

I dont see why it doesnt turn on just with just the normal remote from my head unit (sony xplod)
It says remote cable 0.3 amp max labelled on a wire on the back of it, its also got a ATT wire there, but it doesnt seem to make the amp turn on when i put it on from the remote cable, i also tried the ATT but it still doesnt make a difference, hence why i think it doesn't let enough power go through it..

PS thanks for the help..
#3
Are you sure the permanent 12v is live and you are not bridging the live from the remote wire?
#4
The att is like a telephone mute, for add ons like phone kits etc.
I've just done my mates 54 plate civic sports and everything went smooth.
what sort of wire are you using? household 3 core is best but only use 1 core.
As for the cig lighter, the brown cable is the negative so you don't need that. the green will be posative so use that one.
#5
jtx
Are you sure the permanent 12v is live and you are not bridging the live from the remote wire?


as this guy say's, you do have a constant 12v connected to the amp straight from the battery don't you?
#6
The remote cable doesnt need to be a thick one. Use normal speaker wire.

There is a permanent live and ignition live coming out of the stereo (going in also lol) I think the cables are yellow and red. You will notice they have clear protection bits on them because they are live power, I also think you can change the permanent and ignition live cables around on the cable that comes with the stereo. Just twist the cable round the yellow one (i think, should be in instructions) and reconnect it where it was, this should put the amp on when the car goes on.
#7
and yer, there is a permanent battery live going to the amp isnt there?
#8
aircanman
The remote cable doesnt need to be a thick one. Use normal speaker wire.


Do not use speaker wire the ampage is too high and it will melt under constant power ( i learnt the hard way):oops:
#9
kroozing
Do not use speaker wire the ampage is too high and it will melt under constant power ( i learnt the hard way):oops:


what for the remote cable? I dont think so lol!
#10
aircanman
what for the remote cable? I dont think so lol!


If thats what you've done and you are confindent that it's fine, then good luck to you :roll:
#11
Ive got fusion wiring kit, 4 gauge power cable running from the battery to the amp,

remote cable i think is a 18awg but it doesnt do the job!

its doing my head in, i bought a 3 core wire but i ended up buying a wiring kit as the power cable just about was the same price as the nice kit
#12
the remote will be either 18 or 22 which is what you need.
Any chance you you can upload a picture of the wiring loom from your sony headunit pointing out the remote 12v that you are using.
Just for future knowledge the att is ground activated so if you put that wire to ground it will mute the system.
#13
Also try it with the radio on to check it's not an electric ariel wire instead of a remote....
#14
kroozing
If thats what you've done and you are confindent that it's fine, then good luck to you :roll:


Umm, why would you want to make the cable thicker than it already is? However thick the remote cable is coming from the stereo, is how thick you need the cable.

When I say speaker cable, I mean my speaker cable, not the cheap thin stuff which comes with cheap 6x9's
#15
The remote should be a light blue colour btw
#16
kroozing
The remote should be a light blue colour btw


yeah it is..
i cant really take it apart at the moment, but ill upload a piccy tommorow ok..
#17
Carley
Have you checked for a positive live connection at the amp end (from the remote feed) using a 12v bulb tester?


no i haven't done that..

12v bulb tester? where can i get one?

sorry im useless at wiring, this is the first time i've wired a car..so a pretty much beginner.
Im learning from trial and error atm..so any info is really greatful people!
#18
aircanman
Umm, why would you want to make the cable thicker than it already is? However thick the remote cable is coming from the stereo, is how thick you need the cable.

When I say speaker cable, I mean my speaker cable, not the cheap thin stuff which comes with cheap 6x9's


Maybe when you metion a solution you should be more specific as to the equipment needed. The good speaker wire would work but only the speaker wires that are above £3-£4 a meter.

works out a little costly don't ya think? :whistling:
#19
Boom123
yeah it is..
i cant really take it apart at the moment, but ill upload a piccy tommorow ok..


cool :thumbsup:
#20
kroozing
Maybe when you metion a solution you should be more specific as to the equipment needed. The good speaker wire would work but only the speaker wires that are above £3-£4 a meter.

works out a little costly don't ya think? :whistling:


lmao.

In all fairness now, do you really think you need super thick cable for the remote?

My boom box days are well over thank god, but in the 5 cars I put twin 1000 watt alpine amps in, I used one core of a twin core speaker cable. Never had any issues whatsoever. There is no point putting stupid cables in cars. Just put what is needed! :thumbsup:
#21
Carley
be quick...
eBay item 180367540689

Great item for wiring your car :thumbsup:


ohoh i got one of those!
its under my bed! i knew i came across something like that!

just connect it up? to the wire?

when the cars on? or off?
#22
Connect the clip to the earth wire and then touch the + and remote on the amp with the pointy bit and see if it lights up.......
#23
aircanman
lmao.

In all fairness now, do you really think you need super thick cable for the remote?

My boom box days are well over thank god, but in the 5 cars I put twin 1000 watt alpine amps in, I used one core of a twin core speaker cable. Never had any issues whatsoever. There is no point putting stupid cables in cars. Just put what is needed! :thumbsup:


All in all, everyone has their own views on how to wire their vehicle. My mate melted his speaker cable the way you did it, but hey i've been bridging my cable over and it doesn't melt.
So its really at your own risk.

But yeah thanks for the pointer
#24
jtx
Connect the clip to the earth wire and then touch the + and remote on the amp with the pointy bit and see if it lights up.......


ok hold on ill try it out

give me two mins

thanks

ill have to check tommorow lol too dark, think ill try it out in the morning
#25
The + and - need to be decent cables if the amp is decent, for the remote it doesn't really matter what you use imo
#26
Carley
connect the cable from the remote out on the head unit to the remote input on the amp then earth one end of the tester to a ground point, (check this works by first touching the permanent live connection and make sure the bulb lights) then touch the connection where the remote feed enters the amp the bulb should not light, turn the radio on and the bulb should light. if it doesn't then change the inline fuse


Makes sense but I've never known an inline fuse on a remote wire:?
#27
jtx
Makes sense but I've never known an inline fuse on a remote wire:?


Hmm good point..

I gotta try all this tommorow people! but thanks for the input!

Once i get some time tommorow - Ill rep you as a thanks!
#28
Carley
It's been a while since iv'e wired up amps but i thought all live 12v wires need to be fused?


yeah the 12v from the battery has a fuse, but the remote cable from the head unit doesn't ..
Well i dont think it does..mine doesnt :S
#29
jtx
The + and - need to be decent cables if the amp is decent, for the remote it doesn't really matter what you use imo


Spot on. The remote wire doesn't carry an current so doesn't need to be thick, any old bit of wire will do. Don't know what all these comments are about melting the wire:roll:

@the op, don't wire it into the cigarette lighter as that's permanent live:thumbsup:
#30
Anyways ill let you know tommorow, im off to bed !

Thanks again


PS dont worry, i wont wire it to the ciggy!
#31
Shengis


@the op, don't wire it into the cigarette lighter as that's permanent live:thumbsup:



Not on a Honda iirc,

If all else fails try it, you will do no harm if you get the wrong wire its 50/50 and you can always try the other one...............

Better still use your tester first:thumbsup:
#32
jtx
Not on a Honda iirc,

If all else fails try it, you will do no harm if you get the wrong wire its 50/50 and you can always try the other one...............

Better still use your tester first:thumbsup:


Seems like it doesnt light up..
might buy another tester to make sure, this one is quite old mind..

pictures will be added tommorow! once i get back from college :)

Thanks

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