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Anyone had Orthognathic (JAW) surgery (NHS-Treatment advice needed)

jaybizzlejaybizzle

So i was referred to a dental hospital recently and having had my consultation on friday. I have been told i will need surgery on my jaw and need orthodontic treatment before hand to correct the overall bite.

Being in my early 20's will i be expected to pay for the orthodontics?(privately)

I wasnt told if i would have to and searching the net have found it adults can get it done on the NHS free is it is needed i.e, not for cosmetic reasons.

As the dental hospital told me i would need them for the surgery as part of the overall treatment plan, surely this is medically needed ?

Anyone had to go through this?

Im due in for a consultation (surgeon) on 23rd of march.

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    casparwhite
    ive had it done on the nhs but at a dental hospital

    this was abut 6/7 years ago and they have since stopped treating people for free there

    cutbacks blah blah

    pretty rough as you cant eat anything solid for about 4 weeks then it was soggy microchips or similar for 2/3 weeks
    jaybizzle
    Ive been told the surgery if free tho , no news on the orthodontic treatment, altho on the the nhs dental guide, says the maximum id pay for it is £200 for the procedure, just dont wanna have to fork out 4 grand if they say i need it.


    I was at the dental hospital also.
    Susannah
    I had loads of orthodontic treatment on the NHS. Shouldn't have to pay (apart from the maximum charge for a NHS course of treatment) if it is needed rather than cosmetic.
    nikkiandmidgets
    Is this to do with the jaw being misaligned? I got a bite plate years ago cos of sore jaws etc - grind my teeth and get headaches, worse when stressed, but as I cant gargle etc (not sure if its psycological but feel I cant breathe through my nose properly and panic!),and choke when brushing my back teeth etc, I found i couldnt adjust to having the plate in at night...dentist mentioned option of furgery in future but was my works dentist and I then got paid off and couldnt find a new dentist. have got one now but also have 2 toddlers so only usually go when in extreme pain cos its difficult to get someone to look after the toddlers so I can get to dentist! Just curious as my sister suffered from her jaw only being able to opena few cm's recentlyand I remember going through that - was sore...
    iglimpse
    No payment because the orthodontics is part of the preparation and follow up after the op. It is part of the procedure and all on the NHS.

    I can find more specific info on what to expect, tired now but PM me to remind me for tomorrow

    It is major surgery but I am sure you will do well. Good luck
    sarahxx
    jaybizzle
    Ive been told the surgery if free tho , no news on the orthodontic treatment, altho on the the nhs dental guide, says the maximum id pay for it is £200 for the procedure, just dont wanna have to fork out 4 grand if they say i need it.


    I was at the dental hospital also.


    hi...
    ok.so here is my story. i have a very poor bite.. when i do bite only my back two teeth meet on left side,my top jaw is out of line with my bottom..so anyway i have had 3 consults and all have told me i need orthognathic treatment.. and there is no dental way to improve my smile... :(
    had my 3rd consult today and he has written a letter to my local NHS hospital ... so i am now waiting for my date to come through for appointment re orthognathic treatment..He said this will be with a
    ortho and a surgeon...

    have you passed the measurement test then to have it done on the NHS?... i know no one i the same boat as me.... hope to hear back
    ODB_69
    not quite same but broke my jaw a while back in 2 places

    u wont be able to open your mouth for about 2 weeks...no chance of eating anything solid for 1 month...then it will be ultra soft stuff only
    casparwhite
    sarahxx
    hi...
    ok.so here is my story. i have a very poor bite.. when i do bite only my back two teeth meet on left side,my top jaw is out of line with my bottom..so anyway i have had 3 consults and all have told me i need orthognathic treatment.. and there is no dental way to improve my smile... :(
    had my 3rd consult today and he has written a letter to my local NHS hospital ... so i am now waiting for my date to come through for appointment re orthognathic treatment..He said this will be with a
    ortho and a surgeon...

    have you passed the measurement test then to have it done on the NHS?... i know no one i the same boat as me.... hope to hear back


    i have a similar problem, as mentioned before i had a broken mandible 6/7 years ago.....my bite has got worse over the years. i went to the dentist and was refferred back to the hospital in march i have since had 2 appointments made with consultants and they have both been from the wrong departments, so since march i have still seen no-one who can help me....absolutely ridiculous tbh 6 months and im still in the same position i was when i first went to the dentist :x

    hope you have better luck than me:)
    lumoruk
    Was offered this treatment told them er no thanks when they mentioned the small risk of never feeling my lower face again if they damaged a nerve. Small risk but I didn't think it was worth it, I mainly wanted it for cosmetic reasons but they were offering to correct the bite. They said it would have been FREE to do it, without breaking my jaw would be for cosmetic reasons only and they would have to charge.

    Do you grind your teeth btw?
    sarahxx
    casparwhite
    i have a similar problem, as mentioned before i had a broken mandible 6/7 years ago.....my bite has got worse over the years. i went to the dentist and was refferred back to the hospital in march i have since had 2 appointments made with consultants and they have both been from the wrong departments, so since march i have still seen no-one who can help me....absolutely ridiculous tbh 6 months and im still in the same position i was when i first went to the dentist :x

    hope you have better luck than me:)


    hey...
    have you looked into having it done private?
    i rather have it sorted out while i am in my 20s... than leave it till i get older....im fed up of feeling how i do about it.. :(
    just hope the nhs help me... if not.. will look private x
    sarahxx
    I dont understand.:oops:. i keep reading on threads that people have a brace before jaw op....
    but all 3 orthos told me a brace wont help me one bit as teeth are not the problem,its my bite...my top jaw.. so why do they brace you up before op?....
    lumoruk
    sarahxx
    I dont understand.:oops:. i keep reading on threads that people have a brace before jaw op....
    but all 3 orthos told me a brace wont help me one bit as teeth are not the problem,its my bite...my top jaw.. so why do they brace you up before op?....


    I was told they would break my jaw remove 2 teeth and fit my braces, which i would have to wear for 2yrs. I have bad bottom teeth. But they aren't visible even when i smile.
    sarahxx
    lumoruk
    I was told they would break my jaw remove 2 teeth and fit my braces, which i would have to wear for 2yrs. I have bad bottom teeth. But they aren't visible even when i smile.


    i read u refused the jaw op...so what treatment are you undertaking or are you not? x
    iglimpse
    lumoruk;6259382
    Was offered this treatment told them er no thanks when they mentioned the small risk of never feeling my lower face again if they damaged a nerve. Small risk but I didn't think it was worth it, I mainly wanted it for cosmetic reasons but they were offering to correct the bite. They said it would have been FREE to do it, without breaking my jaw would be for cosmetic reasons only and they would have to charge. Do you grind your teeth btw?


    As part of the consent, they have to tell you all possible risks, no matter how small. It is very rare to damage the facial nerve in this type of surgery, like most surgery is very routine with a good outcome. There always risks in life....even crossing the road. Depends how much it bothers you really.
    Dimple-Berry
    sarahxx
    I dont understand.:oops:. i keep reading on threads that people have a brace before jaw op....
    but all 3 orthos told me a brace wont help me one bit as teeth are not the problem,its my bite...my top jaw.. so why do they brace you up before op?....


    Hiya..im in the same boat as you!! i moved from Lincoln last year where i had all my denist treatment done but i was told about 2yrs ago i would need to have a operation on my jaw to correct it (none of my top and bottom teeth meet)..Before a previous dentist thought it was my top teeth (not my jaw) and gave me a brace tht i had to alter so i would push my top teeth out it wasnt till i changed dental practices that i was told it was my jaw that was the problem Not my teeth, this was yrs ago....So now to the present day ive moved dentists and have explained my previous treatment and so on, and i am now waiting for a referral to the hospital so hopefully the operation should be going ahead next year (fingers crossed) xx:-D
    jamesgillies1983
    Hey jay,
    I was wondering how you were able to get the surgery for free on the nhs? I've heard some people have had to pay for it, and since it's expensive i'd rather not pay.
    Cheers,

    jaybizzle
    Ive been told the surgery if free tho , no news on the orthodontic treatment, altho on the the nhs dental guide, says the maximum id pay for it is £200 for the procedure, just dont wanna have to fork out 4 grand if they say i need it.


    I was at the dental hospital also.
    missp27
    nikkiandmidgets
    Is this to do with the jaw being misaligned? I got a bite plate years ago cos of sore jaws etc - grind my teeth and get headaches, worse when stressed, but as I cant gargle etc (not sure if its psycological but feel I cant breathe through my nose properly and panic!),and choke when brushing my back teeth etc, I found i couldnt adjust to having the plate in at night...dentist mentioned option of furgery in future but was my works dentist and I then got paid off and couldnt find a new dentist. have got one now but also have 2 toddlers so only usually go when in extreme pain cos its difficult to get someone to look after the toddlers so I can get to dentist! Just curious as my sister suffered from her jaw only being able to opena few cm's recentlyand I remember going through that - was sore...


    i have the same as you, was given a bite plate a few weeks back and my jaw is as bad as ever, got to go to hospital to have a tooth out later today and worried about holding my mouth open for so long :(
    guv
    Just shout "I'm a gooner" at White Hart Lane..... you'll get your jaw broken in several places free. X)

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