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Anyone notice Royal Mail stealthily change their Pricing Structure again?

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1d, 2m agoPosted 1 decade, 2 months ago
I went to post something at the Post Office today, it was less than 100g but not a Small Letter, so had to go as a Large Letter.

When the new Pricing in Proportion scheme was introduced by Royal Mail I went to great lengths to research the details, mainly for myself but also partially to help out my parents.
In doing so I saw that all items - Small Letter, Large Letter and Packet - if up to 100g would be charged at the same price, 23p for Second Class and 32p for First Class.
This is a very good idea and was glad that Royal Mail kept it like this because otherwise loads of people would have problems with their mail if they didn't know what size it was.

So, when I got to the till and it was weighed the guy asked me for 37p, I queried this and he said yes, Large Letter, 2nd Class, 37p.
I thought that was odd and decided when I got home I'd check it online and go back if there was a problem.
Lo and Behold I look up the details online and I see that the Cashier at the Post Office was correct - Large Letter, Second Class = 37p, not the 23p it used to be (or would be if it had gone Small Letter).

I'm pretty shocked because this change has come about in the last few weeks, I can't say exactly when, but there has been absolutely no advertising related to this change.
I tried a search online to see if there was any mention of it, but nothing. So just now I thought maybe I was going mad and made up the single price, but I can't get August 2006 for Royal Mail's website on the http://www.archive.org/index.php Internet Archive .

Anyway, I just wondered if anyone else noticed this, if it was infact mentioned somewhere and I just missed it and if it urks anyone as much as me that they've hiked the prices up again.

Oh, as a side note, you might be interested to know that Royal Mail has put forward it's plans to Postcomm about removing Valuable Items from the Special Delivery coverage and introducing a new Special Delivery Valuable Items Premium Service.
How do you like them apples!?
More details can be found here: http://www.psc.gov.uk/news-and-events/news-releases/2006/postcomm-reviews-royal-mail-proposals-to-change-its-special-delivery-next-day-service.htmlhttp://www.psc.gov.uk/news-and-events/news-releases/2006/postcomm-reviews-royal-mail-proposals-to-change-its-special-delivery-next-day-service.html

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1d, 2m agoPosted 1 decade, 2 months ago
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#1
I think you'll find it has been like this since the start of the new system.
The only post at 23p is standard letter.
Everything else is dearer.

A standard letter is less than the A5 size and <100g.
so your packet would be a large letter, and have a dearer charge.
I have the leaflet at home that was dropped to every household detailing this.
#2
I sent a job application the other day and thought the stamp would be OK. It's always been OK with 1 first class stamp before.
My letter was returned to me right after the closing date for the job application :-(
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When the new Pricing in Proportion scheme was introduced by Royal Mail I went to great lengths to research the details, mainly for myself but also partially to help out my parents.
In doing so I saw that all items - Small Letter, Large Letter and Packet - if up to 100g would be charged at the same price, 23p for Second Class and 32p for First Class.
This is a very good idea and was glad that Royal Mail kept it like this because otherwise loads of people would have problems with their mail if they didn't know what size it was.
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There haven't been any changes to the pricing structure since August. For one thing, postcomm wouldn't allow it.

If you check the price guides which were (or should have been, anyway) sent out to every household at the beginning of August they say that for 0-100g large letter is 37p and packet is 84p.

Yes, I work for Royal Mail, so you can claim I'm part of the evil empire if you want :pirate:, but I think the reason you can't find any reference to a standard price for 0-100g is that it was never planned that way, as it defeats the whole purpose of pricing in proportion.
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Renark Jon
There haven't been any changes to the pricing structure since August. For one thing, postcomm wouldn't allow it.
Oh

Renark Jon

If you check the price guides which were (or should have been, anyway) sent out to every household at the beginning of August they say that for 0-100g large letter is 37p and packet is 84p.
Indeed, I didn't receive mine.

Renark Jon
Yes, I work for Royal Mail, so you can claim I'm part of the evil empire if you want :pirate:, but I think the reason you can't find any reference to a standard price for 0-100g is that it was never planned that way, as it defeats the whole purpose of pricing in proportion.

Hi all, thanks for your comments and Renark Jon for the information.
I guess I must have been compeltely losing my mind. I was sure that as long as it was all less than 100g it was still the standard 1 price, and then in the next weight band it went up to whatever each respective one charged - I was certain (hence my post).
Copy like this certainly doesn't help, from the Royal Mail's website:

Royal Mail

"It costs just 23p for Letters and small items weighing up to 100g."
and
Royal Mail

"Just get your mail weighed at the Post Office™ if you think it's over 100g, and then stick the correct value Second Class stamp on it"
I read those as '100g is still the same no matter what size you send, if it's over then you need to go by the charts'.

Oh well, I think I'm losing my marbles.:o

But the Special Delivery news is a farce.

Thanks for all your comments again and correcting my senile mind.
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#5
I went to post a box with 42 sim cards (approx 2.2kg), the price for recorded delivery was nearly £8!! The women behind the counter told me that If I had seperated them both into 2 equal size packages the cost would have been less than £5 - based on each package weighing 1kg.

I then said to her that the package was for the same person so why would I want to send 2 packages? Also If everyone did that with larger packages RM would have to deal with double the amount of post. Lets face it they lose enough post with the current amount of post they deal with. She then went on to say the new pricing structure works out cheaper for most people, I said to her what about my package that isn't cheap.

I totally agree with the initial post, RM have used a new pricing structure that is so compliacted no one has really picked up on the major price increase for larger items.

2.2kg package = approx £8
2 x 1.1kg packages = approx £5

63% more expensive to post as 1 item, this speaks for itself.
#6
I sold a book via Amazon Marketplace which ended up costing me just under £10 to send. Amazon credit you £2.32 for postage which is nowhere near enough. I am sure that some people selling big books at low prices on Amazon must be making a loss!:-( I managed to scrape a profit of £10.
#7
It has made ebay/amazon alot dearer for sure!

I also felt like it had changed recently.... but I must of just got the sizes/ weights wrong.....
#8
Yeah, I take my letter to the post office, where a man in a van comes and picks it up, takes it to a big warehouse, where a guy sorts it out and puts it on a train all the way to somewhere like Newcastle where another guy sorts it out and another guy puts it in his van to take to another post office where another guy sorts it out and gives it to a man on a bicycle who pops it right into the house of the person where I'm sending it and the charge me 30-odd pence for it!!

Absolutely outrageous!!
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duckmagicuk2


Absolutely outrageous!!

good one :-D:-D:-D:-D
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#11
duckmagicuk2
Absolutely outrageous!!

....... :roll:
#12
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