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Anyone Use a Childminder ???

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6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
I am currently checking out some childminders for my almost 3 year old and to take my 5yr old to school.

The problem I am having is with the 2 I have spoken to, they wish to be paid for Bank holidays while not working them, also full holiday pay when I take a holiday and half when they take a holiday. I can understand me having to pay something when I am on holiday but would have thought half might have been acceptable, as they aren't doing the work.

Are these people not supposed to be self employed.

Just wondered how many of you out there agree to these terms with your childminder.
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6y, 6m agoPosted 6 years, 6 months ago
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banned#1
Is this a full time childminder? if its part time they are unreasonable demands
#2
As far as I am aware there are guidelines as to how many children one person can look after, so when your child has a permanent place then you can't expect the childminder to find another child to fill the space when you are on holiday or a day here and day there to make up the money for your child's lost space.
#3
Sounds fairly standard to me. Our childminder charges nothing when she is away on holiday but onl cos shes a family friend. As whatsthepoint says above, it's not like they can draft another kid or two in whilst you are on holiday.
#4
i use a childminder for my 9 yr old have done for 5 yrs. this is not unreasonble at all but my childminder is excellent if on a bank holiday week my son does not go then i pay just the normal weekly amount.

but i count myself lucky to have a great childminder.
banned#5
whatsThePoint
so you think part time workers shouldn't be entitled to holiday pay?


I never got any as a cleaner at school ;-) just didn't get paid for half terms and summer holidays.
#6
My little girl goes a childminer and I have to pay her if I go on holiday and on bank holidays. But if she takes a holiday, I dont pay anything as she isnt working. She classes herself as being 'Open' or 'Closed'. I dont pay when she is closed, which is when she goes on holiday or isnt well. We're not employing them, we're using their services...so shouldnt have to pay while they're not available. How would you then afford to pay a temporary childminer for the period of time your childminder is on holiday??

So i go on holiday, she is still Open i'm just choosing not to send her there (obviously because we're on holiday).
banned#7
sickly sweet
As far as I am aware there are guidelines as to how many children one person can look after, so when your child has a permanent place then you can't expect the childminder to find another child to fill the space when you are on holiday or a day here and day there to make up the money for your child's lost space.


I see that makes more sense, stinks of greedy bone idleness though. David's makes even more sense, no pay if their not working. I'm going to have the benefit of one mum in law who works part time and one mum who has now retired when my sprogs pop along fingers crossed.
#8
will be part time but 3 full days a week
#9
whatsThePoint
Do you get holiday pay where you work?

I will get paid for holidays but not bank holidays as job is temporary.
banned#10
flowers172
will be part time but 3 full days a week


So if you have set time table and you won't expect them to ever work the other 4 days then you should find someone who is willing to work like that or you could offer them double or 1.5x pay on the other 4 days if you ever do need them.
#11
some minders accept half pay explain that you wont get paid people are understanding:) my friend accepts half pay on bank hols :) shop around and find the right one for you and good luck
#12
Childminders are advised to charge for bank holidays and holidays. Most will not charge when they are on holiday themselves but do charge when you are on holiday or if your child is sick.
As someone has said already its impossible to fill a gap when you take your child on holiday.
Like most people, childminders need some idea of their earnings to give them financial stability - they have mortgages and bills every month. I know of many childminders who have stopped minding due to problems with pay.
Nurseries charge in the same way and will often require payment a month in advance. :)
#13
whatsThePoint
did you ask to be paid for it before taking the job on like these childminders?


Lots of rules have changed around part-time workers in schools etc. A portion of each hours pay is now the 'holiday pay'. When I worked as a teaching assiatnt I got paid so much an hour + a few pence holiday pay, term time only, but this was averaged out over 12 months so that I had a set income every month.
suspended#14
The nursery we used for many years for different children charged half price when we were on holiday, full if sick and didnt charge when they were closed
#15
weird..arent they self employed....if so then theres no holiday pay!
banned#16
whatsThePoint
did you ask to be paid for it before taking the job on like these childminders?


if a job is advertised it gives you all the details before you sign the contract, of course I agreed to it, it was easy money :thumbsup:
#17
it's one of the reasons we went for a nursery instead - if a member of staff at the nursey is ill they don't make all the children go home they just draft more staff in but with a childminder the kids would have to be sent home.

we have to use enough holiday as it is without having to have time off for a childminders holidays and illnesses as well.

All 3 childminders we interviewed wanted paying for holidays - I think it's pretty normal.
#18
We have a nanny at home. We pay her for 20 days holiday per year, plus bank holidays.
#19
We have a nanny at home. We pay her for 20 days holiday per year, plus bank holidays


what do you do when they are on holiday? Does one of you have to have time off or do you have a childcare backup like a family member nearby?
#20
worto03
what do you do when they are on holiday? Does one of you have to have time off or do you have a childcare backup like a family member nearby?


Yeah when they are on holiday my mum looks after them, failing that I would put them in a local nursery (where they used to go prior to the nanny)
#21
My friend was a childminder for years and she got paid when the child was on holiday but she didn't charge for taking her own holidays which makes sense because the parents have to find alternative childcare.
#22
I have done childminding myself although i did not charge for bankholidays most do, I worked term time only so only charged if the child was on holiday i charged half rate, but i never took holiday during this time if i was ill i did not charge but if the child was then i did.

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