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Does anyone know if it is against the law to apply for a council house if you currently own and another home but don't live in it? Thanks Claire x Read More
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
Does anyone know if it is against the law to apply for a council house if you currently own and another home but don't live in it?

Thanks
Claire x
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
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#1
yes you can still apply. but you could be waiting along time as you will be looked on as not an emergency in other words all the young mums will get them first. why do you want to live in a council house if you already own a property.
#2
Illegal? Immoral!
#3
I want to sell my house - can't STAND the neighbours and I can't really afford to buy another. I'm currently living with my mum and dad.
#4
bankofmumndad
Illegal? Immoral!


If you lived in my house you'd know the meaning of immoral! :oops:
#5
if you apply for a council house and you already own your own property, I'm assuming you could live within that property if you desired to do so? Then it would be totally unethical to take another persons place on the waiting list even for a council home, never mind accept tenancy of such when there are so many homeless or desperate people who NEED a home and dont have one. For instance, teenagers/young adults that need to leave home/ men-women suffering violent relationships, the needs are endless.
#6
tinkerbell28
You will go to the bottom of the list, as you are selectively making yourself homeless if you sell your house. Neighbour issues won't be taken into account, you have a roof over your head.


I thought that would be the case. Will hopefully sell the house and just wait... may be a pensioner before I get one!
#7
You can apply just tell them all of your circumstances....BUT the likelihood of you getting a house is minimal. You will have very few points (if any). The council will decide if you should be put on the list. I dont own and live in private rented, its not great here - been on council list of 3 years and still have 350 people in front of me and my daughter!!! So you will have a lot more as you dont need to move (unless you cant afford it or whatever)
#8
Information link

I have several family members who work in housing and if you applied, your application would not be considered.

What happens if your neighbours in your new council house are horrific too ?

Some you win, some you lose
banned#9
rent the house out to cover the mortgage and rent yourself a flat with nice neighbours. When the house prices rise, then sell your house.

I dont think you should be relying on the council for housing when you can clearly support yourself.
banned#10
please can I have a nice council house free please.. and ponce off you tax payers
#11
ClarityofMind
if you apply for a council house and you already own your own property, I'm assuming you could live within that property if you desired to do so? Then it would be totally unethical to take another persons place on the waiting list even for a council home, never mind accept tenancy of such when there are so many homeless or desperate people who NEED a home and dont have one. For instance, teenagers/young adults that need to leave home/ men-women suffering violent relationships, the needs are endless.


It's not just neighbouring issues - I have been practically forced out of my own home - it's not a choice...
#12
hankmarvin4
rent the house out to cover the mortgage and rent yourself a flat with nice neighbours. When the house prices rise, then sell your house.

I dont think you should be relying on the council for housing when you can clearly support yourself.


I am getting to the stage where maybe I can't. I have a two year old and was living on my own.
#13
clairethomson786
It's not just neighbouring issues - I have been practically forced out of my own home - it's not a choice...


how so hon?

Cant u get legal help? Its YOUR home right? Don't let anyone force you out!
#14
Have u spoken to CAB? If so, go and speak to them and they can help. Alternatively, call Shelter, they have a helpline
#15
dog_cop
please can I have a nice council house free please.. and ponce off you tax payers


I am a taxpayer may I add, and have been since I left school. Not once have I been unemployed or received benefits! :x
banned#16
can you ot stay at your parents?
#17
hankmarvin4
can you ot stay at your parents?


I am at the moment. But there's my mum, dad, my sister, me and my son in a two-bedroom house. :?
#18
You'd probably be best renting privately, Council probably can't do much for you.
#19
There is a scheme where the council take on YOUR house, they let it out as housing association/council for 3 years, contact them and ask about this. It's a guaranteed income for 3 solid years, with that you can then rent yourself and possibly ride the recession. I've done this with my home and it's a huge weight lifted, the rent is guaranteed and actually more than I would have got privately and also I'm guaranteed new carpets/decoration and new kitchen fitting at the end of the 3 years so definitely worth you enquiring about. hth. X
#20
you need to contact anti social behaviour about them
#21
clairethomson786
If you lived in my house you'd know the meaning of immoral! :oops:



Fair point! We lived 2 doors from a knocking shop..... Frequently got 'callers' looking for number 4 when we were 6. Many strange men pulled a funny face at the 8 month preganant me answering the door!!!

Good luck :thumbsup:
#22
snowflake
There is a scheme where the council take on YOUR house, they let it out as housing association/council for 3 years, contact them and ask about this. It's a guaranteed income for 3 solid years, with that you can then rent yourself and possibly ride the recession. I've done this with my home and it's a huge weight lifted, the rent is guaranteed and actually more than I would have got privately and also I'm guaranteed new carpets/decoration and new kitchen fitting at the end of the 3 years so definitely worth you enquiring about. hth. X


Thanks for this, sounds good. Everything is going up in price at the moment - except my wages it seems!
#23
tinkerbell28
The only thing you can do is speak to your local council. But councils only tend to help you if you have literally been repossesed by the bank, even then not always, not if you sell of your own free will. Also I know what it's like to be a victim of the neigh bours from hell and thank the lord we don't have to put up with it, but selling your house won't help you, especially if you have a roof at your parents too. Seek advice from the cab too:thumbsup:


CAB is a brilliant idea :thumbsup:

so is renting privately if you really cant go back there.

If I were you and that was MY home, I'd be damn well fighting for it though hon.. don't give up so easily. You dont say why you felt you had to leave, but I can think back over many unpleasant experiences I've had and sweetie, your home is one of the most important things in your life for you AND your child. Don't roll over and play dead to whoever it is you're running away from, it's probably just what they want.
#24
clairethomson786
If you lived in my house you'd know the meaning of immoral! :oops:


tell us more:-D:-D
#25
ClarityofMind
CAB is a brilliant idea :thumbsup:

so is renting privately if you really cant go back there.

If I were you and that was MY home, I'd be damn well fighting for it though hon.. don't give up so easily. You dont say why you felt you had to leave, but I can think back over many unpleasant experiences I've had and sweetie, your home is one of the most important things in your life for you AND your child. Don't roll over and play dead to whoever it is you're running away from, it's probably just what they want.


It just doesn't feel like home anymore, I just want out :oops:. But thanks for the support.

Who is CAB by the way?
#26
I am an allocations officer working for a housing association which was formerly a housing department for a local council. I can assure you that yes you can join the waiting list for rehousing BUT social housing is allocated on a needs basis.

We presently use a points based system which gives points dpendent upon circumstances for instace if you say lived at home with your parents still youd get living in and sharing points. The only points youd be able to get are maybe underoccupancy points - say you own a three bed but would take a two bed from us, medical points, and time on list points. This way basically you would be waiting along time becuase you own a property and therefore anyone living with their parents would get more points than you.

We are going to change to a choice based lettings system in the future, which unlike the points system is reliant upon people applying to us for rehousing and then 'bidding' on a specific property that they are interested in. This way there is more chance of getting something as its reliant upon applicants being acive rather than points based in which we chase after applciants.

If you sell your property and approach the Council as homeless you will probably be seen as intentionally homeless unless the property was repossessed.
#27
CAB is Citizens Advice Bureau (They are nice people! I work there!)
1 Like #28
clairethomson786
Thanks for this, sounds good. Everything is going up in price at the moment - except my wages it seems!


It's definately worth a shot, the council just take it off your hands and you can forget about it for at least 3 years, I did this over a year ago when I split with my ex, have rented myself ever since where I want and I have nothing to do with it, it's just an investment so you can detach yourself from it. :)
#29
xena_morph
I am an allocations officer working for a housing association which was formerly a housing department for a local council. I can assure you that yes you can join the waiting list for rehousing BUT social housing is allocated on a needs basis.

We presently use a points based system which gives points dpendent upon circumstances for instace if you say lived at home with your parents still youd get living in and sharing points. The only points youd be able to get are maybe underoccupancy points - say you own a three bed but would take a two bed from us, medical points, and time on list points. This way basically you would be waiting along time becuase you own a property and therefore anyone living with their parents would get more points than you.

We are going to change to a choice based lettings system in the future, which unlike the points system is reliant upon people applying to us for rehousing and then 'bidding' on a specific property that they are interested in. This way there is more chance of getting something as its reliant upon applicants being acive rather than points based in which we chase after applciants.

If you sell your property and approach the Council as homeless you will probably be seen as intentionally homeless unless the property was repossessed.


Thanks for that. I do own my home but have been living with my parents for about a year and a half now. I don't feel like I can afford it anymore now either. I would not make myself homeless but if I sell and move in permanently with mum and dad, could I apply then?
Thanks
1 Like #30
clairethomson786
Thanks for that. I do own my home but have been living with my parents for about a year and a half now. I don't feel like I can afford it anymore now either. I would not make myself homeless but if I sell and move in permanently with mum and dad, could I apply then?
Thanks


you can apply anyway!!!! Apply but tell them about the house (you wont have many points though). If you sell the house you will be making your circumstances worse so this will affect your position
1 Like #31
Whatever you do, good luck with it x x x
1 Like #32
Yes, best course of action would be apply straight away (quicker on list quicker to start getting time on list points), sell property, move back in with parents, amend housing application form and just wait. You could wait a long time though as demand is very high!! you need to apply to all housing providers in the area - people dont realised theres usually a few in an area. And find out if its a choice based or points based system in operation.

If you want something quicker though you need to open up to less desireable areas and not be too specific
#33
xena_morph
Yes, best course of action would be apply straight away (quicker on list quicker to start getting time on list points), sell property, move back in with parents, amend housing application form and just wait. You could wait a long time though as demand is very high!! you need to apply to all housing providers in the area - people dont realised theres usually a few in an area. And find out if its a choice based or points based system in operation.

If you want something quicker though you need to open up to less desireable areas and not be too specific


Thanks - at this point I feel I would take anything going!
Claire x
#34
Also when you do get offered and shown around a property please remember to look at its potential not the 'state' of it, I rarely am able to allocate a property with carpets (usually are a mess and are removed) and the decoration is always to be done but we give a decorating allowance for this.
banned#35
if there is capital in the property then you wont have a hope in hell
#36
xena_morph
I am an allocations officer working for a housing association

We are going to change to a choice based lettings system in the future, which unlike the points system is reliant upon people applying to us for rehousing and then 'bidding' on a specific property that they are interested in. This way there is more chance of getting something as its reliant upon applicants being acive rather than points based in which we chase after applciants.



Thats a good system which is how I got my home, the housing association here use 4 bands, I was put in the lowest band and was on the list just over 1 year, in that time i applied for about 7-8 places via their web site.

Homes here are posted online, applicants log on view the properties and if they have the right 'band' they can apply for it. Once all applications are in and closing date has passed, they choose the applicant who's been on the list longest. A very good system.

This site might help the OP, the FAQ page is quite informative (probably not the one your applying for but might be useful). This is the site i used when i moved.

http://www.yourchoicehomes.org.uk/faq.asp
#37
No offence op but your in a position better than most - you have somewhere to live (well two places including your parents) so dont expect the council to give you anywhere. Three long years I have waited and still waiting....im not expecting to get anywhere anytime soon and so I have to pay a LOT of money rent privately...surely you can rent your house out like the above posters said?
#38
Choice based is also good as rather than rehousing everytime from the highest prioirty band is uses a system whereby say there are ten properties 4 will go to highest band three to the next then two then one. gives everyone an eventual chance.
#39
You will have to be prepared for a looong wait. My two children and I were homeless and lived in a room 8x6 for 3 years, 7 months and 9 days until I was allocated a house. I was in the 2nd highest band (the highest being for medical emergency relocation) I know someone who has been on the list 10 years.
#40
sassie
if there is capital in the property then you wont have a hope in hell


There isn't :oops:

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