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Are BT sharing your internet connection without you knowing about it? CHECK LINK TO SEE IF YOU ARE SHARING WITHOUT REALISING.

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THIS ONLY REALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE USING BT BROADBAND, OR BUYING A SECOND HAND ROUTER THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED BY BT. Recently I posted a thread about the FON broadband sharing network - the link… Read More
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
THIS ONLY REALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE USING BT BROADBAND, OR BUYING A SECOND HAND ROUTER THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED BY BT.

Recently I posted a thread about the FON broadband sharing network - the link that covers details is in the THIRD post, along with a link to the map where you can check your postcode to see if you share without realising. (It was meant to be the first post, but the phone went before I got a chance to add the links! - sorry)

Posts and rep have come back such as...


"Thanks for the info on BT. Bunch of chancers!"

"I suspect many recent BT customers are unaware if they are sharing their wifi
That's stunning, there's no way the occupiers of the points indicated in my little village road are meaning to share their connection this way! Obvioulsy they didn't read the BT instructions fully!"

"Thank you for the post, HOT to you as a connection point. COLD to BT for not telling their customers they were doing this!!!!!"




So I cannot fault the FON service - it has offered me free data in may places, and at far higher speeds than mobile broadband. The savings when abroad have been massive.

HOWEVER - its clearly not right that some people are paying for a connection, and through not reading all the small print (and lets be honest almost none of us do until there is a problem) could be losing part of their connection without knowing.

This is even worse if you are on a package with a limited data transfer - and could end up PAYING for someone exceeding your limit.
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#1
What link?
#2
ukmonkey
What link?


LOL +1
#3
Original post about the FON service


Map to check if you are sharing


Sorry folks - the phone went - I will change the original post to say the third link!!!
#4
dcx_badass
Been posted on here before about 2 weeks ago already.


It was mentioned in a deal for free wifi. "Free Wifi here, abroad, and especially in Spain - check the coverage before voting using the 'go to deal' link."

The link to the deal is included above.

The deal prompted the comments shown in the initial post here.

As anyone not looking for free wifi - would be unlikely to read the post - and given the comments that were returned - I felt it worthwhile to list it as a warning rather than a deal.

Where did you think the comments in the initial post came from?

If you are going to expire something at least try to post where you saw if before rather than expiring a warning on sharing your internet that was only mentioned in a deal for free internet.

Geez! :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
#5
dcx_badass really is an internet badass
#6
Looked on the map and my street doesn't have the symbol but the surrounding ones do.

Does that mean I'm safe? lol
#7
I know you feel you are on a crusade but I think you miss the point.
I am a supporter of the scheme, BT is not giving away your bandwidth as you don't own any.
BT gives you a service which allows you to access the internet, you can still do this, in most cases without anybody else using the bandwidth your router provides.

There may be some individuals who find themselves to be in a particular hotspot where they notice the effect of other fon users. They have total control and can opt out of the system.
For the rest, they access the internet and there needs are met, the capacity in the service is available for other fon users. The owner of the hub is prioritised if there is a conflict.
As you know most users only use a small percentage of the capacity available to them, making more efficient use of the capacity and providing a useful service makes good sense to me.
If you were passing and asked me for a bucket of water whilst I was watering my lawn I would gladly give it to you, my lawn would still get watered and I can fill the kettle and offer you a cuppa at the same time. No big deal:thumbsup:
#8
melipona
I know you feel you are on a crusade but I think you miss the point.
I am a supporter of the scheme, BT is not giving away your bandwidth as you don't own any.
BT gives you a service which allows you to access the internet, you can still do this, in most cases without anybody else using the bandwidth your router provides.

There may be some individuals who find themselves to be in a particular hotspot where they notice the effect of other fon users. They have total control and can opt out of the system.
For the rest, they access the internet and there needs are met, the capacity in the service is available for other fon users. The owner of the hub is prioritised if there is a conflict.
As you know most users only use a small percentage of the capacity available to them, making more efficient use of the capacity and providing a useful service makes good sense to me.
If you were passing and asked me for a bucket of water whilst I was watering my lawn I would gladly give it to you, my lawn would still get watered and I can fill the kettle and offer you a cuppa at the same time. No big deal:thumbsup:


What about if I didn't ask and just strolled in your house and helped myself? :thumbsup:
#9
"What about if I didn't ask and just strolled in your house and helped myself? "
Well of course you don't have to come in my house to use the facility, but If I have provided the means why would I complain, If I didn't want you to have it then I can just turn the facility off.
We all share internet bandwidth with others in our building, our street, our town and even our country, this is just adding another layer.
banned#10
If your wireless pass word is on WTF are you worrying for.:thumbsup:

This whole concept came from a web site saying open up you connection for others:thumbsup:
dont have your wireless pass word on and join a band of people all over the word giving accessFREE to each other:w00t::santa:
Also they would provide a special router free.
#11
autolesbona
dcx_badass really is an internet badass



I strongly doubt the "bad" bit.


hornblowerracing
Looked on the map and my street doesn't have the symbol but the surrounding ones do.

Does that mean I'm safe? lol



Click on the surrounding ones to see if your postcode comes up.

If one is your postcode - it could be you sharing without realising.

Remember the map just shows postcodes, so it may not be on your house exactly.

If one appears on your postcode - ask BT to check if its you sharing.


melipona
I know you feel you are on a crusade but I think you miss the point.
I am a supporter of the scheme, BT is not giving away your bandwidth as you don't own any.
BT gives you a service which allows you to access the internet, you can still do this, in most cases without anybody else using the bandwidth your router provides.



You have missed the point entirely.

I have used FON for years - long before BT moved in on the act. So obviously the greater access is beneficial to me.

What now appears to be the case is BT is issuing routers that are activated on the FON service without the owner of the service knowing. This probably happened at the end of last year when suddenly the number of orange circles on the map increased vastly.

If you have metered internet from BT, and unbeknown to you someone is sharing that connection. Then that sharing can put you over your limit, and prevent your access, or incur charges.

As an example - I run a media server for torrents. This now uploads about 300 gig a month. If I decided to stop using my internet connection, and used high gain antenna, I could access nearby FON routers.

Now if the owner of the router was happily sharing - and had set their allocation of shared bandwith so it would not damage the quality of their service, and they had unlimited monthly bandwith - then that is fine. They know what they are doing.

However, if they are on a 5 gig a month BT package, have no idea they are sharing through FON, and so cannot set the ratio they wish to share - then my connecting a 10 gig upload a day through their connection either stops their service in 12 hours, or hits them with charges after 12 hours.

melipona
There may be some individuals who find themselves to be in a particular hotspot where they notice the effect of other fon users. They have total control and can opt out of the system.
For the rest, they access the internet and there needs are met, the capacity in the service is available for other fon users. The owner of the hub is prioritised if there is a conflict.
As you know most users only use a small percentage of the capacity available to them, making more efficient use of the capacity and providing a useful service makes good sense to me.
If you were passing and asked me for a bucket of water whilst I was watering my lawn I would gladly give it to you, my lawn would still get watered and I can fill the kettle and offer you a cuppa at the same time. No big deal:thumbsup:


Again you fail to see the point.

The sharing of access if fine IF THE SHARER KNOWS.

I thank you for the offer of the water - in your example - I asked - you accepted. However, the examples given abover wwere to show that FON users could access bandwith from those who never accepted - as they were unaware it was happening.

Expanding your analogy - it would be like you getting up one morning to find me in your kitchen already drinking your tea. But BT said it was OK for me to do that without letting you know?



RUDOLF
If your wireless pass word is on WTF are you worrying for.:thumbsup:

This whole concept came from a web site saying open up you connection for others:thumbsup:
dont have your wireless pass word on and join a band of people all over the word giving accessFREE to each other:w00t::santa:
Also they would provide a special router free.


FON is fine - you ask them for the router so you are aware of the service.

BT appears to be sending out routers running FON - but unbeknown to their customer.
#12
It's easy to ot out, a very similar thread http://hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447053 has already been posted

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