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Are dogs allowed out in public road without a lead?

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8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
We have new neighbours and they have a dog (u know the kind - human eaters) and they don't have a back garden and so they let it out the front to wonder and poop etc.. I am a little scared of dogs generally, especially when they come over to me and my kids. It must be quite timid as they have a baby in the house too but I have 2 children under 5 and it worries the hell out of me (slightly dramatic I'm sure). I have to make sure the dog isn't out the front when we're going out to get in the car etc.. I have tod them I am scared as it come over to me once and I jumped into the car, but that hasn't made any difference although they do call it over if it comes in my direction. I know I'm negative about this anyway because I don't like them, but just wanted to know if it was allowed or whether there was a law that states they should be on leads! Anyone know?
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1 Like #2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Dogs_Act_1991

if the dogs classified as one of these, then the owner probably has to keep it on a leash at all times

i know im being a bit vague, but i hope it helps
1 Like #3
Control of Dogs Order 1992
This requires that every dog, while in a public place, wears a collar with the name and address of his owner inscribed on it or on a disc attached to it. If a collar is not worn when out in a public place, the dog may be seized by the police and treated as a stray. Also the owner, and any person in charge of the dog permitting him to be in a public place without a collar, will each be guilty of an offence and may be prosecuted and fined


Basically if the dog is listed as one of the dangerous dogs, then they have to be muzzled and kept on lead when in public. If not then dogs can be kept off the lead.

You cannot walk a dog on a road without a lead.

Dogs Act 1871
Under this Act, a court may, upon complaint that a dog is dangerous and not kept under proper control, order the owner to keep him under proper control or to be destroyed.

Animals Act 1971
Under this Act a dog may be shot, without warning, by a farmer for worrying his livestock and the owner could face criminal prosecution for the same offence under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953.

Road Traffic Act 1988
This makes it an offence to have a dog on a designated road without the dog being held on a lead.

Dangerous Dogs Act (DDA) 1991
There are two main sections to this Act. Section 1 applies to four specific breeds of dog including ‘the type of dog known as the pit bull terrier’. Owners of these breeds had to comply with certain legal requirements, including having their dog registered, neutered, microchipped and tattooed. One of the main problems with this law is that the pit bull terrier is not a recognised breed in the UK. As a result, many owners of cross breeds which resemble a pit bull terrier ‘type’ have been charged under the Act.

Section 3 applies to all dogs, making it a criminal offence to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control in a public place. This includes instances where there is fear that an injury might occur.
Owners found guilty under either section of the Act could have their dog destroyed, face the possibility of six months in prison and/or a fine not exceeding level 5 (at present up to £5,000
1 Like #4
Afaik as long as it's got a collar and tag it can go pretty much where it wants, no lead required unless it comes under the scope of the dangerous dogs act.
#5
Looks like they are :?


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1 Like #6
Shengis;2317891
Afaik as long as it's got a collar and tag it can go pretty much where it wants, no lead required unless it comes under the scope of the dangerous dogs act.

or unless theres a sign saying so
#7
Oh well. Don't think it's a one of those dangerous ones - don't really know a lot about dogs (except labs/andrex puppies). Just have to put up with it then I suppose. Thanks alls soo much for your help - rep will be left x
#8
Give the RSPCA a ring and they will visit them.
banned#9
dmissy13;2317942
Give the RSPCA a ring and they will visit them.

Agreed.....some people just let their dogs wander around all day and I don't think its right, dangerous or not.....
#10
raptorcigs
or unless theres a sign saying so


True, beaches and such like etc:thumbsup:
#11
Also if they are fouling, and not picking it up,then that is an offence!
#12
ok what dog's are ''human eaters'' lol i am geussing as you dont think its on the dangerous dog's act it may be a staffy does it look like this, if the dog's having a pony outside and they are not picking it up right away etc then that's just not on, but by the sounds of it you are saying ti dont seem a nasty dog you are just a bit worried and nervous ( i understand ) but try not to be scared maybe ask the neighbours to stroke the dog etc you may just find your fear slowly fades away + if it is a staffy they are known as nanny dog's and like my sammy 99% of them are gentle with children http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff17/bobthegeezer/Sammy.jpg
#13
awwwwwwwwwwww your staffy looks like mine!!!! Same colourings etc, love them, want another just gotta persuade the hubby to let me have another lol

On another note, my Staffy is on a lead ALL the time other than in a field with no other people/dogs in, not to protect people but i know a lot of people have a fear of dogs, although a lot of people love my staffy in my area so im lucky!
#14
yea same here been looking for a 2nd staffy for a while now and like u i keep sammy on the lead @ all times, but thats what really annoys me like i walk sammy in battersea park where u will see all kinds of dogs off there leads and yet if i let sammy off the dirty looks i would get or even people who will cross the road to avoid sammy, i can understand if your scared of dogs but just to avoid a dog purely because of its breed is just wrong, but then then can you blame then, when people who have strong dogs like staffs etc who just dont have a clue how to train them and then give the breed a bad name
amcol;2318104
awwwwwwwwwwww your staffy looks like mine!!!! Same colourings etc, love them, want another just gotta persuade the hubby to let me have another lol

On another note, my Staffy is on a lead ALL the time other than in a field with no other people/dogs in, not to protect people but i know a lot of people have a fear of dogs, although a lot of people love my staffy in my area so im lucky!
#15
I'm Frightened Of Dogs Too, Out Of Respect I Think In The Main They Should be On Leaders
#16
i agree but then i think that should count to all breeds as i notice people seem to think its ok for small handbag dogs and so called soft dogs to be off the lead yet i have been in the park and seen one of those little terrier's owned by some old biddy, go for a child when she tried to stroke it
bellabonkers;2318246
I'm Frightened Of Dogs Too, Out Of Respect I Think In The Main They Should be On Leaders
#17
I've seen one of these dogs(staffs) in 'action' in the park, my collie dog toby was attacked by one.

It was off it's lead with a relatively small child on tow - with my dog on his lead after he had been put on the lead due to a 'meeting' with the same dog moments before.

It clamped itself onto my Toby's ear/side of his face and didn't want to let go, the look of the staffs face all contorted in the death grip - jaws extended was truly horrific and frightening. I thought he was gonna be a goner until I had to physically beat the staff off with blows to it's head.

My dog had to have surgery on his ear to fix where it had been ripped apart costing best part of £500 over multiple visits to the vets - I'm sorry I just can't trust staffs.
#18
robtallica
I've seen one of these dogs(staffs) in 'action' in the park, my collie dog toby was attacked by one.

It was off it's lead with a relatively small child on tow - with my dog on his lead after he had been put on the lead due to a 'meeting' with the same dog moments before.

It clamped itself onto my Toby's ear/side of his face and didn't want to let go, the look of the staffs face all contorted in the death grip - jaws extended was truly horrific and frightening. I thought he was gonna be a goner until I had to physically beat the staff off with blows to it's head.

My dog had to have surgery on his ear to fix where it had been ripped apart costing best part of £500 over multiple visits to the vets - I'm sorry I just can't trust staffs.


My dog went to my daughters foster mums for a "holiday" when we were on ours, the lady has 5 dogs Alsation, Collie, Malumute, little terrier and another sort.....my staff fitted in straight away, other than the Collie wasnt keen lol, she got jealous over my daughter playing with my staff!

Well the Collie sorted my staff out in next to no time!! They had a bit of a whos boss scrap but then the Collie come off tops!!!

I have also had people cross the road when they see my staffy, it is also very annoying, but they are very good with children because they are tough skinned so can be pulled about a bit more, not that i let my kids pull her about but she rolls round on the floor with them, licking them to death etc. Also they were used in victorian times to "babysit" children. I did no end of research before i got her, and i have had a lab before and couldnt get on with it, to tempremental it was, yet my staffy is the best dog i owned!
Its down to how they are brought up as with any dog.
#19
yea you see from that story i could understand as you have seen 1st hand what a dangerous dog can do that you would no longer trust that breed, but you must agree that the dog who attacked your poor dog must of been miss trained or miss treated and even worse someone ( a small child ) who more then likely could not handle the dog was trusted to walk the dog, dont get me wrong i no staffs can attack but so can ANY BREED what really annoys me is how every staff is tarred with the same brush, but this will never stop as long as the goverment allow any old person to breed and sell dogs and allow kids even as young as 12 or 13 just to have a dog to look hard when they cannot handle it no matter afford to look after it and buy it the balanced diet and care it need's, its such a shame as battersea for example when i was last in there the lady said how 65% are staffy/part staffy
robtallica;2318306
I've seen one of these dogs(staffs) in 'action' in the park, my collie dog toby was attacked by one.

It was off it's lead with a relatively small child on tow - with my dog on his lead after he had been put on the lead due to a 'meeting' with the same dog moments before.

It clamped itself onto my Toby's ear/side of his face and didn't want to let go, the look of the staffs face all contorted in the death grip - jaws extended was truly horrific and frightening. I thought he was gonna be a goner until I had to physically beat the staff off with blows to it's head.

My dog had to have surgery on his ear to fix where it had been ripped apart costing best part of £500 over multiple visits to the vets - I'm sorry I just can't trust staffs.
#20
I've always had boxers and always keep them on a lead in public places if only for the fact my 1st boxer scared a little kid to death by being the same hight and licking the icecram off the kids cone in one lick luckily the parents were very understanding and they got the kid to stroke the dog and they ended up cuddling. I am nervous around dogs i don't know and have to cross over if there is a dog off the lead.
#21
Dub1
yea you see from that story i could understand as you have seen 1st hand what a dangerous dog can do that you would no longer trust that breed, but you must agree that the dog who attacked your poor dog must of been miss trained or miss treated and even worse someone ( a small child ) who more then likely could not handle the dog was trusted to walk the dog, dont get me wrong i no staffs can attack but so can ANY BREED what really annoys me is how every staff is tarred with the same brush, but this will never stop as long as the goverment allow any old person to breed and sell dogs and allow kids even as young as 12 or 13 just to have a dog to look hard when they cannot handle it no matter afford to look after it and buy it the balanced diet and care it need's, its such a shame as battersea for example when i was last in there the lady said how 65% are staffy/part staffy


Yeah of course I don't think they are all like that, it's just human nature for me - once bitten twice shy literally lol.

I think a major part of the problem is as you kind of touched on in your post, I think it's generally a poor upbringing/training which leads to the majority of problems.

There are a few council estates nearby me full of certain types - and I often get the feeling that some ppl have and treat staffs as fashion accessories, not realizing the potential danger caused by poor keeping.

I sometimes see the odd owner in the park allowing their dog to grip onto a tree branch as a means to build 'jaw power' - which for the want of a better word - is weird.
#22
dmissy13
Give the RSPCA a ring and they will visit them.


I wouldn't want to do that because they would know it was me and I wouldn't want to cause any trouble. x
#23
Dub1
ok what dog's are ''human eaters'' lol i am geussing as you dont think its on the dangerous dog's act it may be a staffy does it look like this, if the dog's having a pony outside and they are not picking it up right away etc then that's just not on, but by the sounds of it you are saying ti dont seem a nasty dog you are just a bit worried and nervous ( i understand ) but try not to be scared maybe ask the neighbours to stroke the dog etc you may just find your fear slowly fades away + if it is a staffy they are known as nanny dog's and like my sammy 99% of them are gentle with children http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff17/bobthegeezer/Sammy.jpg


I think that is it! Your dog looks lovely, and I hope I haven't offended you - it's just me. I hear all these horrible stories on the news and I worry about my kids. I am a bit of a drama queen anyway, but you just don't know - that's the thing!! Thanks for all your replies guys, really appreciate your help x
#24
bellabonkers
I'm Frightened Of Dogs Too, Out Of Respect I Think In The Main They Should be On Leaders


I agree, especially when there are children around.
The thing is they are only letting it out to have a wee!
banned#25
Dub1;2318047
if the dog's having a pony outside and they are not picking it up right away etc then that's just not on


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banned#26
No responsible person should ever have a dog outside in a public place without it being on a lead. You cannot guarantee 100% that the dog will not attack (provoked or not). I'm fed up hearing stories that 'the dog is never usually like that', or similar.

Before any dog lover has a pop regarding where they should be allowed to run about freely, exercise and stretch their legs, well think about that first prior to getting a dog.
banned#27
pcnutta

Section 3 applies to all dogs, making it a criminal offence to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control in a public place. This includes instances where there is fear that an injury might occur.
Owners found guilty under either section of the Act could have their dog destroyed, face the possibility of six months in prison and/or a fine not exceeding level 5 (at present up to £5,000


This is what I was going to reference to, the way I see it if a dog is off the lead by a road and has no one to control it then it is an offence as it could easily run across the road and cause a crash.
#28
aScottishBloke
No responsible person should ever have a dog outside in a public place without it being on a lead. You cannot guarantee 100% that the dog will not attack (provoked or not). I'm fed up hearing stories that 'the dog is never usually like that', or similar.

Before any dog lover has a pop regarding where they should be allowed to run about freely, exercise and stretch their legs, well think about that first prior to getting a dog.


I suppose your right, you should probably do the same to humans - you never know.........
banned#29
robtallica;2318881
I suppose your right, you should probably should do the same to humans - you never know.........


If you have the same mind as a dog, then i'd put you on a lead :thumbsup:
1 Like #30
Nice try but sammy had come from the car on the other side of the pavement and was looking @ my missus to have her pic taken she was just back from the park so didnt need a toilet, so maybe you should ask before you point the finger + sammy does not do brown sloppy poo as she is fed dry food so her's is a black colour lol
wierdowoss;2318664
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#31
no dont worry you didnt offend me, a mum and dad will always want to protect there kids i dont let my sun touch any dog i dont no or go near it either :-D
hannah19790;2318639
I think that is it! Your dog looks lovely, and I hope I haven't offended you - it's just me. I hear all these horrible stories on the news and I worry about my kids. I am a bit of a drama queen anyway, but you just don't know - that's the thing!! Thanks for all your replies guys, really appreciate your help x
#32
LOL at pointing out dogs poo poo!!

Im forever finding it in my front garden, as it open plan. As soon as i can i plan to erect a tiny fence just to stop the poo poo episodes.!

Hes a lush dog, my neighbour has one, wins in competitions etc, I used to be petrified by dogs, being bit by one on my bottom as a child. This didnt change until i became a dog owner and faced my fear. Now I adore them but still aprehensive when i see unfamiliar dogs. I think its wise to be on guard as you need to keep on your toes incase.
#33
i 100% agree but this rule should apply to all dogs and not just certain breed's if where being honest here, say for example you where walking through the park and there was a little handbag style dog walking off the lead 90% wouldnt bat an eyelid but if that was a staffy or pittbull etc then most people would be scared or moan etc i think the rules about breeding and a dog being on a lead should apply to all dogs and i really dont think dogs like staffs should be owned by under 18's around here its seen as a status symbol
aScottishBloke;2318822
No responsible person should ever have a dog outside in a public place without it being on a lead. You cannot guarantee 100% that the dog will not attack (provoked or not). I'm fed up hearing stories that 'the dog is never usually like that', or similar.

Before any dog lover has a pop regarding where they should be allowed to run about freely, exercise and stretch their legs, well think about that first prior to getting a dog.
#34
on my estate it was ok to walk the dogs on the grass etc but just for the reason of other dogs having a turd on the grass and risk of the wrong owner being accussed i no longer walk sammy round my area she either goes to the park or a local field or the garden obviously, round here the wardens watch you and take your's and the dog's details just inacse he catches you or your dog doing anything wrong, come to think of it you are not allowed to walk a dog on a public footpath off a lead now in wandsworth (well my part of it atleast)
pcnutta;2318929
LOL at pointing out dogs poo poo!!

Im forever finding it in my front garden, as it open plan. As soon as i can i plan to erect a tiny fence just to stop the poo poo episodes.!

Hes a lush dog, my neighbour has one, wins in competitions etc, I used to be petrified by dogs, being bit by one on my bottom as a child. This didnt change until i became a dog owner and faced my fear. Now I adore them but still aprehensive when i see unfamiliar dogs. I think its wise to be on guard as you need to keep on your toes incase.
#35
I agree that they shouldn't be letting their dog roam in the street really especially if they know it's making their neighbours uncomfortable, but there is so much worry/fear about certain breeds of dogs that it is a bit farsical really. Don't judge a dog by it's looks, judge a dog by it's owners. Dogs arent bad dog, people are bad owners.
I have a german shepherd and people often shy away from her because of the stigmata attached to the breed, which I can't blame them for. I try to take this into account and would never let her off the lead outside the house, only in the park - and there are quite a few local parks which say dogs on leads only - and then a few that don't... although I still get people who will cross to the other side of the road rather than walk past a german shepherd on the lead which always makes me laugh. I ensure she is called away from other dogs & people if off the lead (in the park, she is immediately responsive to the call), and I put her on a leash if we have to walk past kids who look like they're going to reach out and touch her, because I don't really like strangers touching my dog and parents around here often don't control their kids! She once got whacked on the head by a passing 6 year old with a bottle of coke, I mean seriously whacked!
It's a shame that some people don't act responsibly though which can give dogs a bad reputation, perhaps you could just talk to them and explain how nervous it is really making you about the safety of your kids, and could they possibly keep it leashed in the street, no need to be nasty about it, they might be reasonable people, we can always hope that still exists! Although why anyone would move into a house with no garden with a dog I just don't know.
#36
They should all be on leads in residential areas, schools etc.
I am sick of dogs jumping up at me and the owners just laughing it off - especially when the dog has skaggy dirty paws!
I couldn't give 2 hoots what breed it is, i got terrorised by a jack russell once - literally snapping around my ankles!
I have it round my area ... multiple dogs (from one owner) all allowed to run free - near my children and cats? not good! I gave them the biggest mouthful for it last year, and told them I would report their dogs as a threat and a nuisance to the neighbourhood. they stopped ... but have sadly started doin it again.
Oh the pain of arrogant dog owners........
#37
I prefer dogs to be on leads,1 of mine are quite nervous of dogs and neither been bitten by one.

Actually we go past this house,and the path is quite narrow and there this dog who barks like mad inside the house,right at the downstairs window,scares them,so I've gotta go past with them close to me,cos they could easily go on rd,however they expect it to be there more now so its not so bad,1st time it happened they were more scared.
Not sure if the dog would actually jump through the window cos it goes mad when people walk by,the house as no garden and the path is rather narrow and house right there.
#38
best bet is to report people like that otherwise things like that will just carry on and give genuine dog owners a bad name
Sheriff Waffles;2319227
They should all be on leads in residential areas, schools etc.
I am sick of dogs jumping up at me and the owners just laughing it off - especially when the dog has skaggy dirty paws!
I couldn't give 2 hoots what breed it is, i got terrorised by a jack russell once - literally snapping around my ankles!
I have it round my area ... multiple dogs (from one owner) all allowed to run free - near my children and cats? not good! I gave them the biggest mouthful for it last year, and told them I would report their dogs as a threat and a nuisance to the neighbourhood. they stopped ... but have sadly started doin it again.
Oh the pain of arrogant dog owners........
#39
Although irresponsible owners are a major cause of badly behaved dogs - you surely have to remember and take into account animal instincts of your dog.

As in if your the owner of a dog belonging to a usually aggressive breed, that'll mean that there's a far greater chance of problems with irrational behaviour from your dog. Just common sense surely.

For instance my border collie who has never once been on a farm - yet in the park he circles me and his friends as if he's a sheepdog and is incredibly intelligent - it's all instinct to him.

Just have to take it all into consideration.

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