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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
So im thinking of leaving my current job - dont say where or ask ok

Ive been considering it for the past month or so but when talking with my parents all they tell me is im not qualified for anything and im too young and telling me all i can do is work in a office of a shop

But i have 1b 7c 1d Gcse and 1d As Level it looks like everything at school counted for nothing really as those results mean jack

So im trying to think what else is there to do out there - i know 2 things - i DONT want to work in an Office and i DONT want to work ina shop

But what else is there for an 18 year old to do

I want to find a job i enjoy - i dont want to turn into my parents and stick at the same job for 30 years because they didnt find anything else despite them hating it

So im asking the people of hukd what other jobs are there to do for an unqualified 18 year old in the greater london area to do to start the basis of his life
Its a serious thread so dont go giving me any condescending enlightenments about how jobs are hard or im just lazy

Im off to work now so will be back at around 7 to check up on the dealers wise words

Daniel

p.s i dont want any male prostitution jokes
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banned#1
I went to Uni and got a degree and I wish I hadn't bothered, I know more people who have well paid jobs who didn't go to Uni and have more of a future than the ones that DID go to uni....

Plus we all have fat debts to pay off and the ones that didn't go to uni all their own homes!

Edit: How about sales? everyone I know in that seems to do alright...

Car sales, houses, phones or recruitment...

you don't need any qualification for that, the moneys about the same a s retail but you get commission which is where you make the real money
#2
Have you thought about looking for an aprenteship? ALways going to need builders, plumbers and sparks, good money aswell by all accounts
#3
I sometimes work as a builder - However its getting harder to find work. (i say sometimes as i work for a friend and he doesnt always need me)

I 18 and thought about becoming like an nternet seller - importing and exporting
#4
Have a think about what you WANT to do as a job, not what you're good at. Because what you're good at may not be what you want to be doing for the next 30 years.

Uni degrees sometimes don't mean anything without experience. There's a few people in the same situation as you.
They've been to College or Uni, got their qualifications. But can't get in anywhere because companies want experience. So they have to start right at the bottom. It sometimes means getting a job that isn't directly related to their qualifications.

So best thing is find what you want to do. Then consider how you are going to get that job. It may mean doing another course (if it's something different to what you've already studied)
Or you could try asking someone in your local area if you could work for them and help out as an assistant, being trained up by the pro's as you help out. It's a very good way to learn whilst getting the experience needed to get into work somewhere else, or even starting up your own little company.

You're not the only one mate. I'm in the same boat as you.
#5
Years ago I did a modern apprentiship in an engineering firm (CNC machining). It was organised by New Horizons (Not sure if it's still around!)
I started off being the lowest paid employee in the firm, but after 4 years of training and hard work I finished with ONC, HNC & HND and I was one of the highest paid in the company!
I am now doing quite well with the added bonus that the job is at times quite interesting!
#6
What do you enjoy doing? Do you have any interests or hobbies that can be 'translated' into a job? Don't think that qualifications are an absolute necessity (although they do make things a bit easier!). Sit down, think about what you like to do, ask yourself if you would be happy doing it as a full-time job, then go for it!

Don't be scared of changing jobs - it's a well-known fact that just about everybody changes jobs at least once during their first 3 years of work. It's not frowned upon, just be honest with your potential new employers & tell them that you tried your old job but didn't like it & rather than go through the motions you'd prefer to do a good job at something you enjoy.

Good luck.
#7
As Kitten says, you should seriously consider the "trades" plastering, plumbing, electrics etc. There is real money for fully qualified tradesmen, and most are self employed so are working for themselves at hours they chose. A friend of ours recently paid £250 to have a small wall plastered, it took a couple of hours! The pay while you train is awful but the payoff when you are trained is really good! Good Luck!
#8
Depends what you actually want to do as a career? I was in the same boat and had only similar qualifications, ended up writing off loads of letters to all sorts of companies and as i wanted to get into IT, that narrowed them down a bit. got some replies, then got a job as a technician. Try that, write off to different companies in the area you want to go into, whats the worse they can say? No? and you never know.

Oo yeah dont leave your current job until youve got a new one. Hope that helps!
#9
Kitten13
Have you thought about looking for an aprenteship? ALways going to need builders, plumbers and sparks, good money aswell by all accounts


An apprenticeship is a good idea, there is a shortage of qualified plumbers and electricians and if you can handle not earning much for 2 or 3 years, then your earning potential is huge.
You could go to Connexions (i assume you have this in London) they can give you advice.

Do you have a hobby? Could you turn it into a job? The trick is finding something that you are passionate about because if you find a job you enjoy then you'll never do another hard days work in your life!

Just for the record, if I was 18 again, I would reconsider the path I took very wisely as I have drifted from dull job to dull job and am finally at college getting some qualifications, 15 years too late! So if there is something you need more qualifications for, get them now!!

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
#10
i would be looking for something that you can do and train n the job. or g t college and do an apprentaship.

my god i worked in a nightclub as a karaoke presenter when i was 18, then a bouncer. now im 26 and go to uni.
#11
want to find a job i enjoy - i dont want to turn into my parents and stick at the same job for 30 years because they didnt find anything else despite them hating it


Forget what you are qualified for just think if you could do anything what would it be. you are young and can make anything happen don't just settle you are half way there with the coment above. good luck
#12
I remember going for my first interview. Sitting there and telling them about my gcse's. None of them really cared. Maybe things have changed these days.

I work for an ISP giving tech support.
I have **** gcse's and no A levels. Yet i sit next to people that have been to uni etc etc , I also get payed more than some of them :)
#13
Do a plumbing or electricians course while ya still young, better chance of finding work or set up yourself.
Good money and manual work will keep you fit too.
#14
I would say you either have to go back to learning to improve your grades. Thats the only way you will get on any apprenticeship courses, or you can sign up with the Army. They would take you as you are and give you a trade ( as an electrician for example). There are good and bad points for the forces, but they will give you experience and training which will provide you with a future.

Or you can be a shop assistant all your life.
#15
register with Reed and Monster, fill in the form bits and stick your C.V. on there. Once you've done that, you will start to receive emails and phone calls from Agencies looking to place people in full-time jobs that they have available. You can narrow down what jobs you are interested in to reduce the number of noise calls. You can also look at what is available in your area.

I found this easier than looking in job pages, internet etc as these agencies look at your C.V and the forms you've filled in to see if you fit what they're looking for, and if you do, they call you.

really easy to find lots of things through these two
#16
Agree with most of the above Dan, I used to promote apprenticships in greater manchester and theres a real shortage of electricians and plummers, which is where the money is nowadays, especially electricians - if you can get your head round it then get onto an apprenticship, you'll be on a nice package when you've finished, but then your about to go do your "** edition" and work for yourselves, you know how much you can charge being a PAT tester nowadays? lots of dosh for very little work. But it takes time to get there, your gonna have to put in the work as an apprentice.

Unless of course you wanna live the rest of your life in a dead end job.
#17
KDH001
I would say you either have to go back to learning to improve your grades. Thats the only way you will get on any apprenticeship courses, or you can sign up with the Army. They would take you as you are and give you a trade ( as an electrician for example). There are good and bad points for the forces, but they will give you experience and training which will provide you with a future.

Or you can be a shop assistant all your life.


his grades are pretty good. enough to get him on alot of courses.
#18
Part-time work and get to College.

Uni is pretty much a waste of time now, and you wont get in with those grades anyway.
Assuming an As level in an A-Level?? Then you cant get into any courses with only one , nvm a poor one.
Build up some qualifications in a field you are interested in, at college, and work while there to show future employers that your not a lazy git.

Wouldnt go near an office atm either, no such thing as job stability, but then i'm in kinda the same boat as you and being a bit older.
I have better Qualifications, but they mean zip-all most of the time, they are just a bit of a back-up for when you have to move on, as most people dont sit in the same job for more than a few years any more.
Mate was an office temp for years, then got full time couple months ago, and made redundant this month.
He's gained office experience, but without Quals to back it up, you'l sit at the same level for years jumping from one rubbish job to hte next, like most of the rest of the population.
#19
I dont think the shortage is nationwide of plumbers and builders-we are in the north west and due to publicity about lack of plumbers the area is now oversubscribed! (partner is one so I know!)
The pay can be good but you need to either get to heating engineer (more training!) or be very lucky with jobs!

If you were my son I would def try to think of something you will get a buzz from. The trend at the moment to educate healthy living is meaning more need for sports coaches for kids and personal trainers...dieticians, occupational therapists etc (I dont know how many qualifications you need for these but am sure I heard of a government advice line can help with training?)

In most schools now they have a computer into which you put interests and dislikes etc and it gives you a list of possible jobs. My daughter has used one online(dont know if it is her school one?) I can ask her for details when she is home from school if you pm me?

Dont settle for second best longterm-enjoy your life-you get one chance to do it right!!
#20
oh also if you fancy travel neice is 21 and had a full-time mind numbing job but has gone to be a waitress in Spain for 2 months and then on the camp america for the summer. She can always get the mind numbing job back if she needs it in the future but at least she is having a good time now.
#21
owlass
Do a plumbing or electricians course while ya still young, better chance of finding work or set up yourself.
Good money and manual work will keep you fit too.


Agreed - also these trades will enable you to emigrate to another country possibly should you want to leave beautful britain:whistling: ever
Seriously, they have helped us live in Australia and USA - an apprenticeship and trade would be your best bet, you will always have it behind you.
#22
I think one thing people have to take into consideration is that education isn't for everybody. I know it certinly wasn't for me, nor my sister.

His GCSE results are pretty good, i know people with much worse results, who did a levels and went to uni. Got a degree, and can't do anything with it.

nobody loves their job all of the time, but getting well paid for what you do certinly helps
#23
I think Dandoc has suggested before though that he doesn't want to work for a low wage. (I think). Therefore, an apprenticeship is out of the window because you will have to work for a low wage until you get the experience.

I left school at 18, I had no intention of going to University. For about a year afterwards, I got by working in retail. I enjoyed it - and I miss it to an extent but unless your the assistant manager or manager you can't get the hours to work as everyone is part time to help cover everyone else. I left and joined an engineering company as a trainee, but was lucky that the starting pay was £13k - which is high for a trainee position. 3 years down the line I'm qualified with a HNC (which was paid for by the company) and have lots of experience and skills that my other friends who went to University can only dream about.

You just need to think about short term pain for long term gain...
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dandoc2
All i know is i dont want to work in an office as i did that twice and i hated it
and no manual labour
1 Like #25
Dan go on the dole!! You'll probably get more money from the government nowadays than you would from an actual job.
#26
Mmm Danny boy...........I remember the thread not too long ago when you were looking for work ,you wanted to work in retail if I remember correctly and landed a job at Tesco(good for you)

Don't want to work in shops now though!

I also remember you saying that you didn't want manual work,many of us mentioned getting into an apprenticeship but this was an avenue you didn't wish to persue,and no office jobs either.

That you are not sure what you want to do is not too much of a problem,you are still only 18,you have plenty of time yet!

Transport is also a problem(if I recall)

You live in London,well I should imagine that there are a whole host of opportunities available to you,if there isn't in our capital then there is no hope for the rest of us in the outer reaches of this isle!

My advice..........ok,so working at Tesco doesn't float your boat,fair enough,but you have no idea what you want to do.You have been there for around 6 months maybe.........I would stick it out for a bit longer,you do not want to be seen as someone who flits from job to job.In the meantime explore fully what you want to do,we can give you ideas but only you know you.If you are looking for a career then it is more than likely that you will have to undertake some sort of long term training(3 years or so at least) so be sure you go for something you like,that is why I say explore FULLY.

If transport is a problem,you have a job now,maybe save up and start driving lessons and get yourself mobile,that will open up things for you a bit,no constraints on travelling.

I am sure there will be some careers advice places where you live,Connexions has been mentioned already,find out where these places are and get an appointment.

Have you considered nursing? It maybe an option for you,no office,retail or manual labour,though it is hard work,you will be a student nurse for 3 years so college will be involved but you will have a career that can take you anywhere.
#27
muckypup

Have you considered nursing? It maybe an option for you,no office,retail or manual labour,though it is hard work,you will be a student nurse for 3 years so college will be involved but you will have a career that can take you anywhere.


And you get to go the college with student nurses.

Cant beat that :thumbsup:
#28
HaggisHunter
And you get to go the college with student nurses.

Cant beat that :thumbsup:

;-)
banned#29
sadly thanks china/india and polish workers not much opportunties in this country.

future is looking bleek- imagine in 10yrs time- bigger population and virtually nil jobs
#30
ROKO;1888769
sadly thanks china/india and polish workers not much opportunties in this country.

future is looking bleek- imagine in 10yrs time- bigger population and virtually nil jobs

Plenty of jobs. But this thread says it all. No office, no retail and no manual labour. English people can't be bothered and want it easy!
#31
highguyuk
Plenty of jobs. But this thread says it all. No office, no retail and no manual labour. English people can't be bothered and want it easy!

I have to agree, they are only doing the menial jobs that English are either too lazy to do or think they are below themselves. at the end of the day an honest crust is better than sponging or pretending to be ill and on the sick, it makes my blood boil.
#32
There are more than enough jobs out there if someone really wanted one
#33
queenlush
I have to agree, they are only doing the menial jobs that English are either too lazy to do or think they are below themselves. at the end of the day an honest crust is better than sponging or pretending to be ill and on the sick, it makes my blood boil.


Oh please, mass immigration is why the job-market is in the state it is.
They promoted temping, come here/work/go back home again, and now its about the only thing going for them and the resident population.
Brits cant afford to do the menial jobs, since they actually have to live here without squeezing as many as possible into a flat.
Its impossible to survive on minimum wage/ menial jobs with current prices.
And no i'm not dole scum, i earn more than minimum and even then i still cant get anywhere near the property ladder or even affordable renting, since everyone bought all the council houses and now only junkies get whats left.

Retail - minimum wage guaranteed and near nil prospects.
Manual Labour - Well the poles have that cornered.
Office - ie Temping, not always guaranteed, not far off minimum wage and added travel costs if you stay outside city centres usually.
#34
vengod
I sometimes work as a builder - However its getting harder to find work. (i say sometimes as i work for a friend and he doesnt always need me)

I 18 and thought about becoming like an nternet seller - importing and exporting


lol you sound more like a labourer than a builder...best to try and find a specific trade, joiners, plumbers etc ull rake it in the **** is falling out of selling things online...ebay and paypal r taking massive chunks out of puchases and tha tax man is getting cleverer and cleverer
#35
im telling you health education and fitness is the way to go!!!!
#36
To be a spraks u need quite good maths. Also with spraking/plumbing u need to be reasonable with your hands, so it might not suit all.

You seem to have a customer service background, u live in/near London so try companies like London Underground, they pay good money, give good conditions, and more importantly there are lots of opportunities for development. The first step is a station assistant, pays about 22K, with free travel for u and someone else, final salary pension, a tube driver earns over 40K and then u can move on lower management on more............

Good luck
#37
MinstrelMan
Agree with most of the above Dan, I used to promote apprenticships in greater manchester and theres a real shortage of electricians and plummers, which is where the money is nowadays, especially electricians - if you can get your head round it then get onto an apprenticship, you'll be on a nice package when you've finished, but then your about to go do your "** edition" and work for yourselves, you know how much you can charge being a PAT tester nowadays? lots of dosh for very little work. But it takes time to get there, your gonna have to put in the work as an apprentice.

Unless of course you wanna live the rest of your life in a dead end job.


No way man tescos sucks - it really stresses me out and i seriously get depressed knowing i have to go back to work there the next day - and imo that isnt life

I would be tempted to go back to college but its just the cost - it wont be free for me anymore - i havent been in learning since liek may 2006 so i dont know if id be good at it anymore

I know ive matured a lot and find i put more effort into things than when i was younger
and its not just that fact its now like april/may and it would be starting in september and i dont know if i could decide a subject

Wouldnt mind being a plumber - i would like to be an electrician but im around all that stuff all day

But 3 years of studying isnt the best choice for me ive got my parents on ym back to get a proper full time job and my dad seems to be forcing me into the police as ive got no other job routes

My job role aim had been a tube driver but although you have to be 21 to do it the 7/7 bombings kind of put me off it
Im not being arrogant and saying i want a career NOW but i mean i need to be set in the right job to set it up or get a foothold
#38
Get a trade, go to your local dole and ask if they can get you started somewhere. :)
#39
sophie***
Get a trade, go to your local dole and ask if they can get you started somewhere. :)


Those places dont help one bit - waste of time and money really having those people there

They make no effort to help you and just look at you like you're beneath them

Considering i live in london area i find the jobs very restrictive
#40
Your threads on matters always seem to have the same kinda theme.

You say your stuck. The forums suggests things (in this instance 3 pages, but it's quite a small amount compared to some others) and then you throw it all back and say it's not possible or you can't or you don't want to.

If you don't want to work, or do a manual labour and find it a real chore going into work and depressing - that's fine. Alot of us have to wrench ourselves out of bed to go to work. Your option is £45-£50 a week on the dole!

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