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Bored with the TV now, and I have been surfing the net considering an upgrade on my Vaio, not sure to get a Vaio again or a Macbook Pro, I know most people think they are both overpriced, but I like t… Read More
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6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
Bored with the TV now, and I have been surfing the net considering an upgrade on my Vaio, not sure to get a Vaio again or a Macbook Pro, I know most people think they are both overpriced, but I like to think I am cool :). So was wondering what the majority consensus of my fellow HUKDers is... PC or Mac?
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#1
My names bob, and I'm a pc.
#2
My names Lou and I'm Mac
#3
I should probably give my stance too :)....

My names Dean and I'm a PC ....... for now....
#4
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-

If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.

Edited By: Shadow-360 on Dec 25, 2010 23:18
1 Like #5
What about Linux?
#6
bassman_uk
What about Linux?

You have a point. Never actually tried Linux?
#7
mac every time
#8
Mac, I would never go back to PC
#9
mac and back to pc
#10
Mac... Once you go Mac, you'll never go back lol.
#11
i did
banned#12
Mac - simply because you can do THIS within an hour!

My piano playing though!

Edited By: JonnyTwoToes on Dec 25, 2010 23:24
#13
Any reason why all you Mac people like Macs more than PC?
banned#14
obriendean
Any reason why all you Mac people like Macs more than PC?


See the post above yours.
#15
I'm a PC. I do think your choice depends largely on your personality, so there's no point being smug about having one platform or another. Although, smug people do certainly seem to flock toward the Mac platform, which is perhaps where the correlation comes from. Me, I just want my laptop to start up quickly, load the apps I want to use quickly, and not crash or bother me any way. WinXP is the OS that does that and follows it up by keeping out of the way better than any other OS, so that's the one for me, ugly though it is.
#16
obriendean
Any reason why all you Mac people like Macs more than PC?


Because they are easier to use/navigate once you get used to them, they look better, they are more reliable, been a Mac for 7 years now, my first one was a iBook, which finally died last yr, it was a cute little workhorse which still kept up with all the pcs around it
#17
Been on mac 3 times and always come back. It was just an expensive netbook for me.
#18
mac - though gaming capabilities arent that great, otherwise perfect - you just dont have to worry about messing around with it. im a sysadmin and get tired of tinkering by the end of the day, so a simple but powerful laptop is what i want when i get home
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#20
I have a pc as a desktop and a macbook. I prefer my macbook more w7 is just much easier to use compared to osx however I think the app store for osx should balance the equation more when that comes out.
#21
PC.
#22
Still use both. Great pairing together really. Got a small asus eeebox running windows 7, and my macbook. Use Synergy to share the same keyboard and mouse and I have them sitting side by side.

PC does some things better, some things are better done on Mac.
#23
Who needs a overpriced computer that has about 10 games in total??
PC all the way, I've got 300+ games, playing on Windows 7 64-bit using GeForce GTX 570 graphics card!!
banned#24
alien7
Who needs a overpriced computer that has about 10 games in total??PC all the way, I've got 300+ games, playing on Windows 7 64-bit using GeForce GTX 570 graphics card!!

And how many of those games do you regularly play, 5-10 at the most
#25
ive got a 15" 2010 mbp + several laptops running everything from xp/win 7 to fedora 14 & ubuntu 10.10. my main desktop triple boots win7/snow leopard/ubuntu 10.10. just buy both and use them for different things!
#26
I have a hackingtosh, so dual boot both.

Tbh I prefer pc though
#27
bassman_uk
What about Linux?


lol...
GTFO

I really tried to like my Mac but ended up getting rid of it. Its simple,easy and fast but seriously crippled when it comes to functionality.

Edited By: IceRaptor on Dec 26, 2010 10:45
#28
skellysgirl
My names Lou and I'm Mac


My name's deek and when they bring a Mac out that lets me do things that I can't do on my PC for half the price, I might join you.


JonnyTwoToes


Fantastic video. :|

Edited By: deek72 on Dec 26, 2010 10:47
banned#29
alien7
Who needs a overpriced computer that has about 10 games in total??


People who don't play games on their PC?

I've been using Macs for about 5 years. Tried the occasional Vaio but nothing compares to the build quality and the ease of use. Don't have to worry about viruses and have a stable system that just starts up and lets me work with the least hassle in the fastest time.

Yes I pay more but it's worth it.
#30
JonnyTwoToes


Do you really have two toes?
#31
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.

Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
#32
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.


Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.
#33
Rubisco
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.


Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.


Indeed, thanks.

Area of expertise is in Smart Client Applications using the .NET platform (At the moment anyhow). Creational Pattern, Prototyping.

The underlying OSX Architecture is pretty, however their continual crippling of features on their OS on a user level leaves somewhat to be desired. On a user interaction level, as a person who prefers as many options as humanly possible, find Windows 7 efficient as a opposed to OSX, which assume's the user as an idiot.

Popular misconception that MACS are more secure, they're not. Windows 7 is far more secure, it's just that there's far more viruses for Windows. Also the market share of MACs is such (10 %) that it's just a waste of time making a virus for OSX.

Edited By: Shadow-360 on Dec 26, 2010 13:24
banned#34
Shadow-360
Rubisco
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.


Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.


Indeed, thanks.

Area of expertise is in Smart Client Applications using the .NET platform (At the moment anyhow). Creational Pattern, Prototyping.

The underlying OSX Architecture is pretty, however their continual crippling of features on their OS on a user level leaves somewhat to be desired. On a user interaction level, as a person who prefers as many options as humanly possible, find Windows 7 efficient as a opposed to OSX, which assume's the user as an idiot.

Popular misconception that MACS are more secure, they're not. Windows 7 is far more secure, it's just that there's far more viruses for Windows. Also the market share of MACs is such (10 %) that it's just a waste of time making a virus for OSX.


The only option I really want is for it to turn on and let me do some work, browse the net and listen to music as quickly and easily as possible.

It's kinda why I've stuck with them. Not everyone wants to spend ages tweaking settings. I want it to just work out of the box.
2 Likes #35
JonnyTwoToes


why do you keep posting that crap. You managed to add music to a video and upload it in an hour all thanks to a mac...wut?
#36
FilthAndFurry
Shadow-360
Rubisco
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.


Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.


Indeed, thanks.

Area of expertise is in Smart Client Applications using the .NET platform (At the moment anyhow). Creational Pattern, Prototyping.

The underlying OSX Architecture is pretty, however their continual crippling of features on their OS on a user level leaves somewhat to be desired. On a user interaction level, as a person who prefers as many options as humanly possible, find Windows 7 efficient as a opposed to OSX, which assume's the user as an idiot.

Popular misconception that MACS are more secure, they're not. Windows 7 is far more secure, it's just that there's far more viruses for Windows. Also the market share of MACs is such (10 %) that it's just a waste of time making a virus for OSX.


The only option I really want is for it to turn on and let me do some work, browse the net and listen to music as quickly and easily as possible.

It's kinda why I've stuck with them. Not everyone wants to spend ages tweaking settings. I want it to just work out of the box.


Fair Play, I admit that's one of the advantages of owning a MAC, you could say most if not all of Apple's products are geared as to making everything 'Just Work', and hey, it's worked for them.

It's a Personal Preference really.
#37
Shadow-360
Rubisco
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.
Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.
Indeed, thanks.Area of expertise is in Smart Client Applications using the .NET platform (At the moment anyhow). Creational Pattern, Prototyping.The underlying OSX Architecture is pretty, however their continual crippling of features on their OS on a user level leaves somewhat to be desired. On a user interaction level, as a person who prefers as many options as humanly possible, find Windows 7 efficient as a opposed to OSX, which assume's the user as an idiot.Popular misconception that MACS are more secure, they're not. Windows 7 is far more secure, it's just that there's far more viruses for Windows. Also the market share of MACs is such (10 %) that it's just a waste of time making a virus for OSX.

The .NET platform is certainly effective in terms of reusability and maintaining software patterns across different languages and I agree from this perspective, the PC is superior. It is managed code, though, unlike its predecessor, MFC but it is worth the trade off by using managed code.

It is absolutely correct that Macs are more insecure. Since Windows Vista, the kernel has been fortified. I remember Steve Jobs once claiming that only Windows was insecure and yet, at the time, he had to sign off a patch that plugged no less than 13 vulnerabilities in Mac OS. And by the same token, IE8 is also more secure than Safari or any other current browser. The methods of reporting by the media does portray a case of it being less clear cut, though but they do like to wind people up and stir emotions.
#38
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Rubisco
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.
Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.
Indeed, thanks.Area of expertise is in Smart Client Applications using the .NET platform (At the moment anyhow). Creational Pattern, Prototyping.The underlying OSX Architecture is pretty, however their continual crippling of features on their OS on a user level leaves somewhat to be desired. On a user interaction level, as a person who prefers as many options as humanly possible, find Windows 7 efficient as a opposed to OSX, which assume's the user as an idiot.Popular misconception that MACS are more secure, they're not. Windows 7 is far more secure, it's just that there's far more viruses for Windows. Also the market share of MACs is such (10 %) that it's just a waste of time making a virus for OSX.


The .NET platform is certainly effective in terms of reusability and maintaining software patterns across different languages and I agree from this perspective, the PC is superior. It is managed code, though, unlike its predecessor, MFC but it is worth the trade off by using managed code.

It is absolutely correct that Macs are more insecure. Since Windows Vista, the kernel has been fortified. I remember Steve Jobs once claiming that only Windows was insecure and yet, at the time, he had to sign off a patch that plugged no less than 13 vulnerabilities in Mac OS. And by the same token, IE8 is also more secure than Safari or any other current browser. The methods of reporting by the media does portray a case of it being less clear cut, though but they do like to wind people up and stir emotions.


Agreed on all accounts, the Base Class Library of .NET has been designed up in a very intuitive way, ADO.NET is especially useful and very efficient as opposed to other languages and their similar methodologies.

They certainly used alot of code in Vista, I suppose that was related to one of the main 'downfalls' of Vista. Fundamentally, MS made a good decision to rewrite from the ground up code for Vista, however that also left little time for them to optimize base processes at a User Level, and that's arguably one of the most important steps, they did this with Windows 7 however, and a very good job at that.

What is your area of specialism ElliottC, if you don't mind me asking?
#39
Shadow-360
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Rubisco
ElliottC
Shadow-360
Being a software engineer it's PC all the way. Macs are ugly -.-If you want the looks of a Macbook Pro, consider the HP Envy Series.
Strange choice of reasoning, especially for a software engineer! Not sure how aethetics is related to software engineering. What software patterns do you you use for software architecture, by the way?
They were two separate unrelated statements, note the use of a full stop.
Indeed, thanks.Area of expertise is in Smart Client Applications using the .NET platform (At the moment anyhow). Creational Pattern, Prototyping.The underlying OSX Architecture is pretty, however their continual crippling of features on their OS on a user level leaves somewhat to be desired. On a user interaction level, as a person who prefers as many options as humanly possible, find Windows 7 efficient as a opposed to OSX, which assume's the user as an idiot.Popular misconception that MACS are more secure, they're not. Windows 7 is far more secure, it's just that there's far more viruses for Windows. Also the market share of MACs is such (10 %) that it's just a waste of time making a virus for OSX.
The .NET platform is certainly effective in terms of reusability and maintaining software patterns across different languages and I agree from this perspective, the PC is superior. It is managed code, though, unlike its predecessor, MFC but it is worth the trade off by using managed code.It is absolutely correct that Macs are more insecure. Since Windows Vista, the kernel has been fortified. I remember Steve Jobs once claiming that only Windows was insecure and yet, at the time, he had to sign off a patch that plugged no less than 13 vulnerabilities in Mac OS. And by the same token, IE8 is also more secure than Safari or any other current browser. The methods of reporting by the media does portray a case of it being less clear cut, though but they do like to wind people up and stir emotions.
Agreed on all accounts, the Base Class Library of .NET has been designed up in a very intuitive way, ADO.NET is especially useful and very efficient as opposed to other languages and their similar methodologies.They certainly used alot of code in Vista, I suppose that was related to one of the main 'downfalls' of Vista. Fundamentally, MS made a good decision to rewrite from the ground up code for Vista, however that also left little time for them to optimize base processes at a User Level, and that's arguably one of the most important steps, they did this with Windows 7 however, and a very good job at that.What is your area of specialism ElliottC, if you don't mind me asking?

I've only briefly used ADO.NET during an Access Database Import but I have found the MySQL .NET connector just as capable, although it is not part of the .NET standard set of classes, it integrates very well as an addition like the multitude of other .NET classes. The simplicity in which COM calls and DLL calls are achieved makes .NET such a pleasure to use and is a far cry from the days of coding standard C++ and making calls to DLLs written in other languages. Indeed, managed C++ is even available in .NET so Microsoft have made it easier to implement cross language function calls.

My work has varied widely from IT journalism, Professional Services and now a Developer. I don't develop C++ much these days as I find it is far quicker to develop in C# .NET and today's hardware means that managed code isn't too much of an issue.

Going back to the PC v MAC debate, I have never developed software on MAC OS (although I have developed on other versions of Linux) so maybe it's a bit premature for me to deem that PC development tools is superior without having actually used a MAC for such work.

Edited By: ElliottC on Dec 26, 2010 14:20
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