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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
where are all the spurs fans that were crowing in the summer that theyre going to break into the top 4 gone
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#1
inb4 guv'na
#2
I think actually they wanted to break into the bottom 4 ... come on pompey tomorrow xxx
#3
championship beckons, same as newcastle

see you next season........super leeds!!
#4
What the ones this year?
Last year?
The year before that?

And so on, every year it's the same rubbish, they don't even have a top 10 strike force;

Bent, Pavyluchenko & Campbell lol bottom 4 here we come, oh wait they're already there

They've only scored 4 league goals, one of which was an own goal and another Bent accidentally scored when trying to move out the way of a poor cross trying to win a corner

So 2 intentional goals in 5 games
#5
they probably meant the top 4 of the championship
banned#6
RedIron
What the ones this year?
Last year?
The year before that?




I dont make any such bold predictions. And never have.

However this is kinda funny as you are in a humerous mood!
#7
Well Didier Zokora still thinks Spurs can break into the top 4 this season (as mentioned in an article yesterday)......should we tell him he has to fight against relegation this season instead? :giggle:
#8
guv;3061481
I dont make any such bold predictions. And never have.

However this is kinda funny as you are in a humerous mood!


That is pretty funny actually, we will never ever have to pay anything like £30 million to them though

They'll be lucky if they get a penny
#9
realfriendlyman;3061499
Well Didier Zokora still thinks Spurs can break into the top 4 this season (as mentioned in an article yesterday)......should we tell him he has to fight against relegation this season instead? :giggle:


So does Bale and Bent who is aiming to score 30 goals this season
banned#10
realfriendlyman
Well Didier Zokora still thinks Spurs can break into the top 4 this season (as mentioned in an article yesterday)......should we tell him he has to fight against relegation this season instead? :giggle:


Its probably better if you are supportive RFM. Know what I mean!!!:w00t:
banned#11
RedIron
That is pretty funny actually, we will never ever have to pay anything like £30 million to them though


That remains to be seen. I was just thinking about your comments yesterday about tieing it up in the courts and using the highest authority in sport! Seems you got that wrong!

They'll be lucky if they get a penny


Why? You that skint? :w00t::w00t:
#12
guv
I dont make any such bold predictions. And never have.

However this is kinda funny as you are in a humerous mood!


And this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7637184.stm :-D
banned#13


Yeh I heard about that one. Its probably got a fair bit of validity (since it involves hardships -(yeh I know on those salaries its a silly statement). I hope they rethink on that though as I think it will topple it over the edge. (Unless of course they wait until the club gets their money first!)
#14
That remains to be seen. I was just thinking about your comments yesterday about tieing it up in the courts and using the highest authority in sport! Seems you got that wrong!


We're still going to the CAS, they have to hear us, we've already brought Maurice Watkins in to tart drawing up our case

Why? You that skint? :w00t::w00t:


Lol no, they just have no grounds whatsoever to claim any compensation from us, the bare facts are that the 76 points they dropped were more influential in their relegation than the 3 that Tevez was supposedly worth to us

Also we can just ignore this ruling and not pay them



That will never happen either, they can try but if they had bothered putting in the effort on the pitch they wouldn't have been in the position they are.
banned#15
RedIron
We're still going to the CAS, they have to hear us, we've already brought Maurice Watkins in to tart drawing up our case


So is he going to convince Sheff Utd to it? 'Cos it says they cant unless they agree!


Lol no, they just have no grounds whatsoever to claim any compensation from us, the bare facts are that the 76 points they dropped were more influential in their relegation than the 3 that Tevez was supposedly worth to us


The arbritration you agreed to says differently!

Also we can just ignore this ruling and not pay them


Ignoring rules is what got you into this mess!


That will never happen either, they can try but if they had bothered putting in the effort on the pitch they wouldn't have been in the position they are.


True, but thats another story!
#16
Well if you do get away with paying any money out maybe you can pay this mugs fine http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7635470.stm
banned#17
waterloo
Well if you do get away with paying any money out maybe you can pay this mugs fine http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7635470.stm


Hehe. Silly boy! :w00t::p
#18
So is he going to convince Sheff Utd to it? 'Cos it says they cant unless they agree!


No as we have a pretty sound argument in that Sheffield United were never entitled to an arbitration in the first place, it was at that point if they had a problem they should have went to the CAS

As West Ham says, if it is justice that is so important to them and not money, they wont mind going

The arbritration you agreed to says differently!


You mean the one well over a year ago where it was agreed by both parties that the outcome will be final, funny enough Sheffield United didn't stick to that so we have a good argument that their case in null and void

Ignoring rules is what got you into this mess!


There is no rule that we have to pay them, many orginistations have just ignored arbitration rulings, the MET is one


waterloo;3061665
Well if you do get away with paying any money out maybe you can pay this mugs fine http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7635470.stm


He's already been fined two weeks wages by West Ham for being out so early in the morning, not much more we can do really unless he is found guilty. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

I don't condone drink driving anyway but I can' judge him unless as I said he is proven guilty
banned#19
RedIron
No as we have a pretty sound argument in that Sheffield United were never entitled to an arbitration in the first place, it was at that point if they had a problem they should have went to the CAS

As West Ham says, if it is justice that is so important to them and not money, they wont mind going


Should you not have thought that before agreeing to THIS arbitration? And its justice AND money they want!:w00t:


You mean the one well over a year ago where it was agreed by both parties that the outcome will be final, funny enough Sheffield United didn't stick to that so we have a good argument that their case in null and void


No, that was an appeal to the FA. I doubt they expected justice with Brooking on the panel!:p


There is no rule that we have to pay them, many orginistations have just ignored arbitration rulings, the MET is one


We'll I'm sure they will just sit back and do nothing if you chose that road. Not quite sure closing your eyes is the best way!
#20
Its still early man
#21
realfriendlyman
Well Didier Zokora still thinks Spurs can break into the top 4 this season (as mentioned in an article yesterday)......should we tell him he has to fight against relegation this season instead? :giggle:


RedIron
So does Bale and Bent who is aiming to score 30 goals this season


guv
Its probably better if you are supportive RFM. Know what I mean!!!:w00t:


It's not my fault Guv'ner if Spurs are deluded as usual, a lot of my friends are spurs fans and they've been stating that they think they're gonna break into the top 4 for about 10 years....still yet to happen though. :giggle:

I know Spurs will definitely pick up and they have money to play with more than ever before after the sales of their 2 best players but I can't see them coming back as much as some Spurs diehards believe.

Lets hope Ramos has got some special signings lined up for January and the players start playing better.......now that I've said that....will you retract your threat Guv? :giggle:
banned#22
realfriendlyman
It's not my fault Guv'ner if Spurs are deluded as usual, a lot of my friends are spurs fans and they've been stating that they think they're gonna break into the top 4 for about 10 years....still yet to happen though. :giggle:


The media say an awful lot. Have you seen me saying it? I may have said we are capable of getting there - but I dont make predictions. (Purely because it invariably ends with egg on face.)


Lets hope Ramos has got some special signings lined up for January and the players start playing better.......now that I've said that....will you retract your threat Guv? :giggle:


Nope.

Now repeat after me:

"Spurs are a bigger club than Ars*nal"
1 Like #23
guv
The media say an awful lot. Have you seen me saying it? I may have said we are capable of getting there - but I dont make predictions. (Purely because it invariably ends with egg on face.)




Nope.

Now repeat after me:

"Spurs are a bigger club than Ars*nal"


Can you say Deluded? :giggle:

The volume of money a club spends of late doesn't mean they're a bigger club...by your logic in the past, Man City is now automatically a bigger club than their local rivals, as well as any other club in the world. :-D

I think a clubs status is based on several factors including consistantly finishing high in there respective league, genuinely challenging for trophies, the players they can attract, gate receipts.

Now considering Spurs haven't finished above Arsenal since I was probably born 25 years ago....I don't think you can call them a bigger club. :giggle:

P.S I do admit that you never state where you expect Spurs to finish but like you said, I think that's because you've had "egg on your face" too many times like the rest of the Spurs fanbase. :giggle:

I do genuinely believe you're a really nice guy mate.......so why don't you leave the dark side and support the Gooners, so you can have some happy moments as a footy fan? :whistling:
1 Like #24
yea some real good times recently as an arsenal fan,
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#25
Lol, the Mastercard one made me laugh but we all know Spurs haven't won a major trophy for almost 20 years, so there's no point boasting about the plastic mickey mouse trophy that is the League Cup. :-D

Arsenal have won loads since Wenger has been on board and despite teams like Spurs spending at least double what we spend every year, they're still playing catch up and are miles behind.
Show me how many teams from the major European teams that have consistantly reached the champions league every year for about a dozen years and I think you'll be able to count them on one hand. :thumbsup:

Have some rep for making me laugh anyway and for being a good footy fan. :thumbsup:
banned#26
realfriendlyman
Can you say Deluded?


Can you say "hey, where's my site gone"?:w00t:

The volume of money a club spends of late doesn't mean they're a bigger club...by your logic in the past, Man City is now automatically a bigger club than their local rivals, as well as any other club in the world. :-D


Man City HAVE just become the biggest club in Manchester!

I think a clubs status is based on several factors including consistantly finishing high in there respective league, genuinely challenging for trophies, the players they can attract, gate receipts.


LOL. We won something last season... something you've not done for a while! :w00t: Yes, your current attendances are bigger than Spurs - by virtue of a new ground. Historically, Spurs average attendances are bigger than Ars*nals. In fact only Man Ure and Liverpools averages are higher.

Before matches were all ticket, Spurs regularly had 3/4 of the ground when playing at Highbury in the league, cup and even friendlies. That's a fact. (It was always a source of amusement hearing "who the *** is Pat Rice" chanted from the North Bank for his testamonial!) IF Spurs moved to a 60,000 stadium, they would fill it every week. And yes I agree, that must be the next step.

P.S I do admit that you never state where you expect Spurs to finish but like you said, I think that's because you've had "egg on your face" too many times like the rest of the Spurs fanbase. :giggle:


Not true. I know Spurs are too unpredictable. On their day, they can be world beaters. Unfortunately those times are few and far between of late. However, I dont ever make any bold statements (unlike gooners - who constantly claim they are going to win the league and champions league - EVERY YEAR.) The best you will get out of me is something like "I think we will do well in Europe this season". In simple terms, I don't make wild speculative statements. (Which is something the OP suggests.[/QUOTE]


I do genuinely believe you're a really nice guy mate.......so why don't you leave the dark side and support the Gooners, so you can have some happy moments as a footy fan? :whistling:



LOL. Its you thats on the dark side!
#27
Come on ARSENAL!!!!
banned#28
^^^^^^^^^^^ Plastic Gooner!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :w00t::p:-D
#29
guv
Can you say "hey, where's my site gone"?:w00t:


Does all Spurs fans, blackmail....I thought you were better than the rest of those people?



guv
Man City HAVE just become the biggest club in Manchester!


Only because Man United are outside Manchester. :giggle:



guv
LOL. We won something last season... something you've not done for a while! :w00t: Yes, your current attendances are bigger than Spurs - by virtue of a new ground. Historically, Spurs average attendances are bigger than Ars*nals. In fact only Man Ure and Liverpools averages are higher.

Before matches were all ticket, Spurs regularly had 3/4 of the ground when playing at Highbury in the league, cup and even friendlies. That's a fact. (It was always a source of amusement hearing "who the *** is Pat Rice" chanted from the North Bank for his testamonial!) IF Spurs moved to a 60,000 stadium, they would fill it every week. And yes I agree, that must be the next step.


Hold up mate, so one second you're telling me, it doesn't matter that we've been one of the most successful clubs in the premier league over the last decade and it's all about winning the worst trophy possible and the next you're telling me Spurs attendance record from 1951. :giggle:

Also, Spurs fans would attend all ticket games because they were a lot cheaper, I don't think Spurs fans would fill out a 60,000 seater stadium at the prices we charge, not if the stadium looks the way it currently does anyway.....there's a reason why we were singing "we won the league at the s***hole a few years ago. lol

guv
Not true. I know Spurs are too unpredictable. On their day, they can be world beaters. Unfortunately those times are few and far between of late. However, I dont ever make any bold statements (unlike gooners - who constantly claim they are going to win the league and champions league - EVERY YEAR.) The best you will get out of me is something like "I think we will do well in Europe this season". In simple terms, I don't make wild speculative statements. (Which is something the OP suggests.


Some fans suggest we're gonna win the double every season but I know it's very unlikely but as you can see, we do have some justification, as even during our years that we haven't won anything, we've reached the champions league final, league cup final (with the kids might I add lol) and pushed Man united to the wire last season for the league and that's after everyone had written us off.

Remember that a lot of people, even rival fans even said Man Utd didn't win the league but Arsenal lost it because of our carp run but I do genuinely believe Man Utd were the best team last season and deserved to be crowded the king of the EPL and Europe.


guv
LOL. Its you thats on the dark side!


Actually mate.......it's really sunny where I am. ;-)
#30
i think what it boils down to is teams like arsenal man utd etc have faith in there manager and have stuck by there manager, every season other then a few tinkles here and there they have the same team they finished the season with and then buy players to fill the spots they need filling no genuine football fan could say we dont have a squad as good as the top 4 its just our's changes season after season so it takes ages for a team to gel and settle
& then add the fact that spurs which it pains me to say but we show no half decent manager loyalty jol was a top manager loved by the players and fan's had a run of bad results then he was told to jog on and we bring in a guy who ok won us a cup but his results seem no better @ the moment. then the one thing that really really annoys me the most is every new manager wants a near on complete new squad and new team (which messes up the season for us) as the whole team has to re-gel, i mean the likes of modric etc will be superb but thats going to take time + the fact we have to wait till atleast january for arshavin
banned 1 Like #31
realfriendlyman
Does all Spurs fans, blackmail....I thought you were better than the rest of those people?


I am... and its fun saying it!

Only because Man United are outside Manchester. :giggle:


Like most of their fans!


Hold up mate, so one second you're telling me, it doesn't matter that we've been one of the most successful clubs in the premier league over the last decade and it's all about winning the worst trophy possible and the next you're telling me Spurs attendance record from 1951. :giggle:


You seem to want it both ways! "You are succesful".... but havent won anything for ages. We've won something "but that doesn't count". "Our crowds are bigger ", but historically thay are not.

Also, Spurs fans would attend all ticket games because they were a lot cheaper, I don't think Spurs fans would fill out a 60,000 seater stadium at the prices we charge, not if the stadium looks the way it currently does anyway.....there's a reason why we were singing "we won the league at the s***hole a few years ago. lol


LOL. You said it....."ages ago". And Spurs would definately sell out a 60,000 stadium.

Remember that a lot of people, even rival fans even said Man Utd didn't win the league but Arsenal lost it because of our carp run but I do genuinely believe Man Utd were the best team last season and deserved to be crowded the king of the EPL and Europe.


Eh? You is confused!!!!!!! Are you a Chelsea fan now?
#32
Dub1
i think what it boils down to is teams like arsenal man utd etc have faith in there manager and have stuck by there manager, every season other then a few tinkles here and there they have the same team they finished the season with and then buy players to fill the spots they need filling no genuine football fan could say we dont have a squad as good as the top 4 its just our's changes season after season so it takes ages for a team to gel and settle
& then add the fact that spurs which it pains me to say but we show no half decent manager loyalty jol was a top manager loved by the players and fan's had a run of bad results then he was told to jog on and we bring in a guy who ok won us a cup but his results seem no better @ the moment. then the one thing that really really annoys me the most is every new manager wants a near on complete new squad and new team (which messes up the season for us) as the whole team has to re-gel, i mean the likes of modric etc will be superb but thats going to take time + the fact we have to wait till atleast january for arshavin


To be honest, I don't think you do have a team in terms of starting 11 or the squad depth to be as good as any of the top 4 but one thing I will say is that there has been times that you haven't been far off and just needed a bit of tweaking.

I do completely agree with you about managers chopping and changing being the cause of your demise, as Man Utd stuck it out with Fergie despite a very rough patch at the beginning and it paid dividends and even a few years ago, the fans were calling for his head and again, he proved what a great manager he really is.

The problem with Spurs is they consistantly try and purchase every up and coming talent and then the next manager comes in and undoes the hard work because he wants to work around his own ideas, which is the same problem at Newcastle....I mean, why would any manager want to plan for the future when they know that one season of underachieving the high expectations set will mean not only will they lose their job but there credibility too?

Jol was a good manager and I genuinely liked him as a man as well but unfortunately he made a few mistakes with some areas of his buying and couldn't motivate the players at the start of last season and sadly in this day and age, everyone involved with Premier League football will not tolerate a few bad results.

I hope Spurs do pick up again, as I have to admit, it was a lot of fun when there was genuine rivalry between Arsenal and Spurs a couple seasons ago when we pipped you to the champions league spot on the last day, it really did make things exciting. :thumbsup:
banned#33
realfriendlyman
Jol was a good manager and I genuinely liked him as a man as well but unfortunately he made a few mistakes with some areas of his buying and couldn't motivate the players at the start of last season and sadly in this day and age, everyone involved with Premier League football will not tolerate a few bad results.


Sorry, but I think you've got that wrong.

I dont believe for one moment the blame lies with Jol. I dont think he was involved with the purchase of Bent (in the same way Ramos didnt get to spend the money for Berbatov.) Its done at board level and I personally think its a very big mistake to have "directors of football" taking these kind of decisions. Also, the replacement for Jol was already in place prior to any bad results and I cant help but think those poor performance at the start were quite influenced by the boards underhand dealings at that time.
#34
guv
Sorry, but I think you've got that wrong.

I dont believe for one moment the blame lies with Jol. I dont think he was involved with the purchase of Bent (in the same way Ramos didnt get to spend the money for Berbatov.) Its done at board level and I personally think its a very big mistake to have "directors of football" taking these kind of decisions. Also, the replacement for Jol was already in place prior to any bad results and I cant help but think those poor performance at the start were quite influenced by the boards underhand dealings at that time.


Bent wasn't the only player that was a mistake, as he didn't cover some of the positions that required a bit of squad depth but I do believe you're right about the purchase of Bent.

I also completely agree with you regarding the directors of football, as they're the ones that decided they didn't want to see a reoccurance of the Sol Cambell situation when they decided to get rid of Defoe.

I think Jols biggest mistake was agreeing with the board that they were genuine challengers to a champions league position and because of this, the club believed they should of had the best start possible but an instant start of poor results meant they were forced to look elsewhere.

Jol would of eventually sorted it out but you could see the players received a kick up the bum they needed the second Ramos walked through that door.

You can't be too angry with the board though, if memory serves me right, Spurs are the second biggest spending team since Chelski were bought out and that includes all the top 4 too, it's just a shame that they can't play the sexy football that Arsenal have created on a budget fit for lower league teams. :giggle:
#35
the only thing i will add do (as this si getting to close to a spurs/arsenal love in lol) is i dont think + the panel on soccer saturday dont think that if arsenal are again hit by injury's that you have enough cover to be able to press for the title, while we may over spend on wrong players i think arsenal underspend and then when they get knocked out of the cups they use the same old we used the kids excuse, but when we smashed you 5-1 it was far from your kids, and guv your 100% correct if you listen to interviews done with jol you will see a lot of the flops who we have sold or are not even in the 22 are players jol didnt want nor did he buy
#36
Dub1
the only thing i will add do (as this si getting to close to a spurs/arsenal love in lol) is i dont think + the panel on soccer saturday dont think that if arsenal are again hit by injury's that you have enough cover to be able to press for the title, while we may over spend on wrong players i think arsenal underspend and then when they get knocked out of the cups they use the same old we used the kids excuse, but when we smashed you 5-1 it was far from your kids, and guv your 100% correct if you listen to interviews done with jol you will see a lot of the flops who we have sold or are not even in the 22 are players jol didnt want nor did he buy


Hehe, most of my friends know I like Spurs fans (I like all footy fans that aren't thugs anyway and I actually used to support Spurs for a few months before I started supporting Arsenal, which is probably why I have a soft spot for them), so it's all good with the local "Love Inn" lol.

That is definitely one of the biggest reasons why we went through a bad patch with Arsenal getting some decisions against us in practically every game after the Eduardo horror tackle and he was on fire at the time too....... we just couldn't get past the injustice (even though that's part and parcel of the game at times) and with the injuries going on, we just couldn't cope and was at an all time low in terms of moral.

Arsene Wenger always tries to keep the squad trim since we won the double with a huge squad, I think he realised that a lot of players didn't get enough game time but were good enough to at least be rotation but now he doesn't have a back up plan for when players like Rosicky and Van Persie are constantly sidelined.

The thing is, our senior squad is quite small compared to Chelsea but we've got a lot of up and coming players...I was particularly impressed once again by Carlos Vela and Jack Wilshire (who will be in the England squad by the time he's 18/19) were brilliant and no one really noticed what a commanding role Mark Randall and Kieren Gibbs among other players having a great impact too, although Gibbs kept leaving the flank open and kept trying to support the centre backs.

The way it's looking, our kids will once again gain a lot of valuable experience in the Carling Cup and should be able to provide cover as a last resort.

P.S There was a lot of kids in the Carling Cup match between Spurs and Arsenal and Fabianski couldn't of had a worse game if he tried......if a half decent keeper was in place, it would of been a much tighter game, as he let in weak goals at crucial times but the better team won on the day.
#37
vela does look good would be nice to see him against a better team do, nice to see arsenal with a few english players, do you think theo will be get better and better ? as when i have seen him he seems to blow hot and cold sometimes he is on fire sometimes he plays pritty pony abit like arron lennon
#38
Dub1
vela does look good would be nice to see him against a better team do, nice to see arsenal with a few english players, do you think theo will be get better and better ? as when i have seen him he seems to blow hot and cold sometimes he is on fire sometimes he plays pritty pony abit like arron lennon


Theo Walcott is starting to become a lot more consistant now but like you said, he still blows hot and cold but I think it's about keeping him confident and getting longer spells in the side.

Aaron Lennon is a quality player and will pick up once Ramos plays him in his natural position week in, week out but haven't heard too much about him since his injuries last season.
banned#39
LOL. Can we change the header to Ars*nal 1 Hull City 2 ?

I wonder what the ref did wrong this time!
#40
guv
LOL. Can we change the header to Ars*nal 1 Hull City 2 ?

I wonder what the ref did wrong this time!


Lol, the ref was poor, as he kept stopping the game for no reason, thusly calming down our flowing football. :whistling:

We got complacent, you could see as soon as we took the lead, we didn't just think we'd win but by how many but then Geovanni scored a stunner, which you could see was coming as soon as he was given any space.

We were poor in the first half and to be honest, I thought Hull had a poor match but were well organised, so it was about minimising the chances we had available and taking theres.

P.S What do you reckon Guv....do you think Spurs will leave the foot of the table? :giggle:

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