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In 2001 i assaulted a guy by hitting him in a club as i had previosuly found out that he had made a pass at my lass!!!.....those days have all gone now ! i pleaded guilty and was charged for it and…
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[helper] 7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
In 2001 i assaulted a guy by hitting him in a club as i had previosuly found out that he had made a pass at my lass!!!.....those days have all gone now !

i pleaded guilty and was charged for it and was made to pay the fine back either doing community service or actually paying it (cant remember)

Question is,
Will this still be on my record? iv heard its wiped after so long....but does it still actually still stay on file or is it permanantly deleted so that the likes of e.g disclosure checks wont pick it up etc
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[helper] 7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
I thought these were permanent records?

I would think it will still be there.
#2
it stays ion yor record for 6 years BUT after the problems they had with ian huntley i believie it will still be disclosed on any disclosure checks i knoe mine was
#3
I think it would still be there even if spent, but why not phone a Police station and ask?
banned#4
jamespir
it stays ion yor record for 6 years BUT after the problems they had with ian huntley i believie it will still be disclosed on any disclosure checks i knoe mine was


You sure?

Thought it was 10 years.
#5
I think its of your record for disclosure checks but it still stays on your file for police records.. But dont quote me on that
#6
Depends on what career path you choose to follow. Working within Leisure or with children for example will mean this will not be spent. GBH will usualy be spent after either 5 or 7 years.
#7
were you over 18 when it happenned?

convictions like this are classed as spent after 6 years,but stay on your record forever,normally only show up on an enhanced CRB check
#8
guv
You sure?

Thought it was 10 years.


i was told 6 years by the police when i was charged but that was circa 2001 so may ahve been changed
#9
it is still there as i have to have disclorues as i work with kids and was told it used to be the case where if you have no other convictions then after so long it would be gone but that is not the case so ie if you apply for a job and they ask if you have any previous if you say no then they will find out as they can get it from file now
#10
10 years and its "spent" i.e. cant legally hold it against you and you dont have to disclose it. varies for different crimes but will always be on your record, wont be accessable for employer checks after the 10 yrs is up.
#11
ok well mine was for staying in a hotel and not paying (that night) but when i went back a week later to pay ( which i had already agreed with the poilce who contacted me about it they rang another police station who arrested me
#12
it is "expunged" after a certain amount of time but I've no idea how long any more. I did learn all this but its flown from my mind anymore as I dont use it lol

But, if you're asked if you have committed a crime you should still state it and state the circumstances also and how long ago it was.

Not the crime of the century hon, don't let it worry you too much x
[helper]#13
don hedron
10 years and its "spent" i.e. cant legally hold it against you


this is for a definate yes? so i still have to wait another couple of years?
someone said 5 years to me a while back....is it maybe different in scotland?
banned#14
Its 5 years but if its the higher CRB check then it will still show (and will for the rest of your life)

EDIT: thats in england, if you are in scotland I don't know
1 Like #15
I always thought it was 10 years for a conviction to be classed as spent but have been told that is 7 or 6 years too:?

In saying that,even if the conviction is spent it will still be on file for enhanced crb checks.
#16
don hedron
10 years and its "spent" i.e. cant legally hold it against you and you dont have to disclose it. varies for different crimes but will always be on your record, wont be accessable for employer checks after the 10 yrs is up.


This info is correct except for enhanced security clearance i.e CTC (counter terrorism clearance) When unless you disclose it it may be used to refuse you and you may not apply again.
#17
why are you concerned about your record? is it for a crb check or travel?
#18
i pleaded guilty and was charged for it and was made to pay the fine back either doing community service or actually paying it (cant remember)
surely if this was only in 2001 you would remember if you paid a fine OR did community service?
banned#19
mikebike
This info is correct except for enhanced security clearance i.e CTC (counter terrorism clearance) When unless you disclose it it may be used to refuse you and you may not apply again.


Its wrong if its in England.
And there are loads of jobs, not just security, that the ROA doesn't apply to, anyone working with children for example.

Heres the table

http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/rehabact.htm
#20
With crb's I thought it was longer as I accidently opened a previous tenants that the St Johns Ambulance had requested and it had convictions dating to the 70's
banned#21
harlzter
With crb's I thought it was longer as I accidently opened a previous tenants that the St Johns Ambulance had requested and it had convictions dating to the 70's


They work with kids, so it will have been an enhanced check which will detail all convictions, incluing when under 18
#22
I had a conviction in 1990 for "possession" (not a weapon) and am being asked to part help an under 10's football team next season. The coach has already told me that CRB check will be neccessary.
Will I need to disclose my one, or will it have disappeared by now?

My punishment was a £250 fine, no custodial sentence.

How you doing Saxo? Not thinking of lumping a car salesman are you??????
#23
colinsunderland
Its wrong if its in England.
And there are loads of jobs, not just security, that the ROA doesn't apply to, anyone working with children for example.

Heres the table

http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/rehabact.htm


No sorry the info about CTC is correct as I work for the Home Office and unless all convictions are disclosed spent or otherwise they may be used to refuse you clearance. You may not then reapply if previously refused.
#24
kyalion
I had a conviction in 1990 for "possession" (not a weapon) and am being asked to part help an under 10's football team next season. The coach has already told me that CRB check will be neccessary.
Will I need to disclose my one, or will it have disappeared by now?


if you have to get a CRB with enhanced diclosure then it will show up as a spent conviction
#25
Jetpac
if you have to get a CRB with enhanced diclosure then it will show up as a spent conviction


Thanks Jetpac. TF for that !
#26
kyalion
I had a conviction in 1990 for "possession" (not a weapon) and am being asked to part help an under 10's football team next season. The coach has already told me that CRB check will be neccessary.
Will I need to disclose my one, or will it have disappeared by now?

My punishment was a £250 fine, no custodial sentence.

How you doing Saxo? Not thinking of lumping a car salesman are you??????


You should still disclose. They are really looking for any crimes against the person or involving "moral turpitude" ( lovely phrase that ), sexual assault against children etc, disclose and explain the circumstances is always your best bet x x
[helper]#27
wulshaz
i pleaded guilty and was charged for it and was made to pay the fine back either doing community service or actually paying it (cant remember)
surely if this was only in 2001 you would remember if you paid a fine OR did community service?


this was like 8 years ago now...no i cant remember that far back !!:whistling:

kyalion


How you doing Saxo? Not thinking of lumping a car salesman are you??????



doing fine mate thanks, u?

haha no not yet anyway.....might be this weekend tho if that 30.000 service stamp isnt put on the service book she got ;-)
[helper]#28
iv heard there is an

Enhanced disclosure and a standard disclosure check.......

was thinking of a job that asks of it lol
#29
saxo_appeal
iv heard there is an

Enhanced disclosure and a standard disclosure check.......

was thinking of a job that asks of it lol


Both hubby and I have to have an enhanced disclosure due to our jobs. Mine has to be repeated every two years as I'm in contact with vulnerable people for a lot of my work time. Hubby's only has to be done every ten years. It depends very much on the job, but if you're going to be even remotely working with children you'll need to make an enhanced disclosure x x
banned#30
mikebike
No sorry the info about CTC is correct as I work for the Home Office and unless all convictions are disclosed spent or otherwise they may be used to refuse you clearance. You may not then reapply if previously refused.


Sorry I didn't mean the CTC part was wrong, I meant the 10 year part.
[helper]#31
Does anyone know if they could do an enhanced check on myself (if i give them my details by PM) through there work?

Just to see before i start applying

thanks

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