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Blanco Avatar
9y, 5m agoPosted 9 years, 5 months ago
From a distance saw a couple getting their card and money snatched at an ATM by a couple of teenagers who then proceeded to walk away calmly whilst leaving the couple stunned. The teenagers looked to be of moroccan/algerian background, 1 male and 1 female maybe around 16 years old each. UK is officially a haven for international criminals of all sorts. I have seen some other countries where they even leave money and their shop open to customers without fear of theft (middle eastern). Such attitudes will never occur in the UK. So why didn't I help? Because I would probably be the only one (people in the UK are generally unwilling to group-up and beat up a mugger etc I have found and this seems to be the same message I heard on LBC not to long ago). Additionally, the kid may have been carrying a weapon. There was also no police presence in the area (this was a high street). A big old shame.
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9y, 5m agoPosted 9 years, 5 months ago
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#1
Have you at least called the Police now? They would take this seriously and theres always CCTV in the majority of high streets.
#2
Becksdawe
Have you at least called the Police now? They would take this seriously and theres always CCTV in the majority of high streets.


From what I saw, others took care of it so I would presume so.

Crime ref. numbers... are they really useful?

If one intervened, one would probably get told off. If one didn't, then you might just get a pat on the back. I remember the case of the farmer who shot a criminal in his house and faced criminal charges himself.
#3
But you haven't yet you have a very strong discription there. I would still ring them - if only to confirm what other people have told them. And if it turned out no-one did report it - how bad would that be.
#4
Have you reported this to the police yet.

As for not helping, shame on you. No wonder this country is the way it is.
#5
stora
Have you reported this to the police yet.

As for not helping, shame on you. No wonder this country is the way it is.




Agreed - you at least report these things!!!
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stora
Have you reported this to the police yet.

As for not helping, shame on you. No wonder this country is the way it is.


Hmmm I wasn't in the mood for potentially getting stabbed. Maybe tomorrow I might be more willing :thumbsup:
banned 1 Like #7
I would have thought the people who got their card and money snatch would have reported it!

I have to agree with Blanco's last comment...
#8
Blanco
Hmmm I wasn't in the mood for potentially getting stabbed. Maybe tomorrow I might be more willing :thumbsup:



Doesn't stop you from calling the police - you are, after all, a witness. Although you didn't approach the teens - did you have the common curtosy to make sure they were ok?
#9
Becksdawe
Doesn't stop you from calling the police - you are, after all, a witness.


There were plenty of others much closer than myself who did the deed I am certain.
#10
Blanco
Hmmm I wasn't in the mood for potentially getting stabbed. Maybe tomorrow I might be more willing :thumbsup:


You where at a distance.

Did you shout to them. Did you tell others around you what was happening. Did you go over to the couple and see if they where alright. Did you call the Police.

You did nothing.
#11
Blanco
There were plenty of others much closer than myself who did the deed I am certain.



You are certain.... how can you be!?!?!?
banned#12
stora
You where at a distance.

Did you shout to them. Did you tell others around you what was happening. Did you go over to the couple and see if they where alright. Did you call the Police.

You did nothing.


Welcome to the real world.
#13
stora
You where at a distance.

Did you shout to them. Did you tell others around you what was happening. Did you go over to the couple and see if they where alright. Did you call the Police.

You did nothing.


I do agree, but go easy on her, most people are scared to do anything these days for fear of reprisal.
#14
Blanco
There were plenty of others much closer than myself who did the deed I am certain.


You don't know that for certain.

A while ago I heard a scream and when I looked down the road someone had been knocked over. I was about a quarter of a mile way but called the ambulance just in case.

No one had bothered to phone (I asked when I called). I guess they where too busy or presumed some else had bothered.
#15
Blanco
Hmmm I wasn't in the mood for potentially getting stabbed. Maybe tomorrow I might be more willing :thumbsup:



Unfortunately the way things are today I probably would have thought twice about intervening because like OP said these kids could have had a weapon but I would have definitely phoned the police - I would have definitely gone over to see if they were ok - even if other people were about and I would have definitely stayed until the police arrived because I might remember something about them that other witnesses dont - for example, what they were wearing, colours, what they looked like etc! You should still contact the police to give your statement, if everyone took that attitude then people like this would never get caught!
#16
bod emrys
I do agree, but go easy on her, most people are scared to do anything these days for fear of reprisal.



Even calling the Police - from the safety of a shop or a payphone. How would the guys that stole the money pick her out of all the potential people?

No matter how many times something has been reported - as a witness - I'd feel I'd have a duty to report it with exactly what I saw.
#17
I hope if anything like this happened to myself, family or friends there would be someone around whom was willing to help/shout/ring for assistance......anything except walk away!
#18
bod emrys
I do agree, but go easy on her, most people are scared to do anything these days for fear of reprisal.


Yeah your right. Sorry Blanco. :oops:
#19
You can still call Crimestoppers @ 0800 555 111 anonymously. No personal details asked ;-)
#20
Becksdawe
Even calling the Police - from the safety of a shop or a payphone. How would the guys that stole the money pick her out of all the potential people?

No matter how many times something has been reported - as a witness - I'd feel I'd have a duty to report it with exactly what I saw.


Sorry, I was on about intervening, there is no excuse for not calling the police.
#21
Were not all really getting at you I'm sure. You will be shocked and stunned at this happening.

Still - you seem to be feeling better now - since you have typed everything up on here - so why not do the deed and call the police now anyway?
#22
Let's just say the police were called. For me to prove this is pointless when I *know* for a fact that they were.

Maybe some of you should be put in a confrontational situation at a random time when you least expect it. I would like to see how far you take things. Theory and practice are two very different things. Yes, I would have beat the living **** out of him and I am more than capable but am in no position to do so due to the fact that he may be part of a gang/cohort etc and it have future implications. I came here to vent, not to be lectured.
#23
bod emrys
Sorry, I was on about intervening, there is no excuse for not calling the police.

:thumbsup: :friends:
#24
Leese
Unfortunately the way things are today I probably would have thought twice about intervening because like OP said these kids could have had a weapon but I would have definitely phoned the police - I would have definitely gone over to see if they were ok - even if other people were about and I would have definitely stayed until the police arrived because I might remember something about them that other witnesses dont - for example, what they were wearing, colours, what they looked like etc! You should still contact the police to give your statement, if everyone took that attitude then people like this would never get caught!



Good point you may remember something that others have missed.
#25
Becksdawe
so why not do the deed and call the police now anyway?


Knowing the police these days she'll be done for wasting police time.
#26
I am not lecturing you for one. I was just advising that it is probably a good idea for you to call the police anyway not to report it, just to give your statement as you might remember something other people have not remembered. Its a tough one because like you say you could have been stabbed, beaten or anything..
#27
greg_68
Knowing the police these days she'll be done for wasting police time.



Yeah sure....NOT
#28
:w00t: Did anyone see newsnight last night, they were on about how credit card fraud has been practically decriminalised - police aren't interested at all, they tell you to report it to your bank instead
#29
greg_68
Knowing the police these days she'll be done for wasting police time.



Difference is though - a crime had been commited and I'm sure the high st. CCTV camera's will be able to verify all this along with statements.
#30
Leese
I am not lecturing you for one. I was just advising that it is probably a good idea for you to call the police anyway not to report it, just to give your statement as you might remember something other people have not remembered. Its a tough one because like you say you could have been stabbed, beaten or anything..


I only found out some time later (confirmation), as one could briefly see something from a distance with a rough idea and nothing absolute. Myself, like others at a distance, only found out what happened after asking others who were closer by. Therefore the Police would only get a much weaker/diluted version of what happened. Seems pointless.
#31
edi
You can still call Crimestoppers @ 0800 555 111 anonymously. No personal details asked ;-)


Thanks. I think I would rather use this service in case it does provide any help. Just another statistic I believe but nonetheless.....

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