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Bargain laptops - Vista Ready?

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1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
There seems to be a lot of bargain desktop/laptop deals starting to appear. The problem is that a lot of these just wont be up to the task of running vista and potential buyers may find there bargain laptop early next year not quite good enough.

Looks like MS will be offering vouchers for free or discounted upgrades.
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?articleId=193105190

Would it be worth mentioning a sticky note somewhere that buyers between now and xmas (an probably post xmas) should be aware of the imminient OS upgrade, that they should check whether the laptop/pc is up to the task of being vista ready. Or alternatively that if they dont care then some bargains may be to be had, just that they are being discounted for a reason.
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1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
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#1
Alot of laptops are already have Vista ready badges on should people want to pay the rip off price to upgrade to that bloated POS.
#2
Vista Ready, in most cases, is just another marketing scam... most pc's are vista ready, and so are most laptops.
#3
Chris206
Vista Ready, in most cases, is just another marketing scam... most pc's are vista ready, and so are most laptops.


ya but when they say "vista ready" it means that they can run on vista, not perform. my advice, stay well away from it unless you have a brill computer. i have an average joe computer (AMD 64 3500+, 1GB ram, 250GB SATA2 HDD) and it takes me forever to boot up into windows with nothing on it.
#4
I'd just like to point out that just because Vista is coming out it won't mean that you suddenly can't use your current computer anymore. I for one will continue to use WinXP for a good couple of years until the bugs in Vista have been ironed out. By that time, the laptop which I have just purchased will be on its way to needing a replacement anyway.

So I would recommend that before buying a new computer (between now and the release of Vista) you should decide whether or not you want to run Vista on it. If not, take advantage of all of the current offers and get yourself a bargain laptop with WinXP on it. If you want one with Vista on it, perhaps wait until Vista is released and buy a laptop with Vista already installed on it.

Basically "Vista ready" means nothing, as the laptop may be able to run Vista but could run it at a snail's pace.
#5
kk_cheung
i have an average joe computer (AMD 64 3500+, 1GB ram, 250GB SATA2 HDD) and it takes me forever to boot up into windows with nothing on it.
Without sounding patronising, I would suggest that you reinstall WinXP on your machine. You should be booting up very quickly and the only thing in my experience which slows this down is the accumulation of years and years of rubbish that builds up on the HDD or in the registry.

I tend to reinstall Windows XP at least yearly, and would recommend others to do the same.

Just make sure you back up EVERYTHING before you format the HDD.

Reinstalling windows without re-formatting is nowhere near as effective.

The whole process of reinstalling Windows XP (plus drivers & software afterwards) can be done in a day (assuming you have broadband for downloading all your drivers) and for most of the time you can leave the computer to install the software by itself.

So, sorry if this sounds patronising, but just thought I'd suggest it! :thumbsup:
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#7
Yes markwills I find my PC boot up times slow considerably over a year and I have done the same as you ...a complete clean reinstall.

I have tried loads of utilities to try and speed up the boot up procedure but none of them result in any significant improvement...the only way to really speed up is to disable all start up items using msconfig.....or spend a fortune in 2007 (to get vista) on a spanking up to date dual core (maybe quad core will be available) PC with 2gb of memory.

My son has such a PC and his boots up within seconds whereas my "old dog" takes at least a minute.
#8
markwills
Without sounding patronising, I would suggest that you reinstall WinXP on your machine. You should be booting up very quickly and the only thing in my experience which slows this down is the accumulation of years and years of rubbish that builds up on the HDD or in the registry.

I tend to reinstall Windows XP at least yearly, and would recommend others to do the same.

Just make sure you back up EVERYTHING before you format the HDD.

Reinstalling windows without re-formatting is nowhere near as effective.

The whole process of reinstalling Windows XP (plus drivers & software afterwards) can be done in a day (assuming you have broadband for downloading all your drivers) and for most of the time you can leave the computer to install the software by itself.

So, sorry if this sounds patronising, but just thought I'd suggest it! :thumbsup:


no it works fine in XP iw as refering to the speeds that i am getting in VISTA lol. sorry.
#9
markwills
Without sounding patronising, I would suggest that you reinstall WinXP on your machine. You should be booting up very quickly and the only thing in my experience which slows this down is the accumulation of years and years of rubbish that builds up on the HDD or in the registry.

I tend to reinstall Windows XP at least yearly, and would recommend others to do the same.

Just make sure you back up EVERYTHING before you format the HDD.

Reinstalling windows without re-formatting is nowhere near as effective.

The whole process of reinstalling Windows XP (plus drivers & software afterwards) can be done in a day (assuming you have broadband for downloading all your drivers) and for most of the time you can leave the computer to install the software by itself.

So, sorry if this sounds patronising, but just thought I'd suggest it! :thumbsup:


no it works fine in XP iw as refering to the speeds that i am getting in VISTA lol. sorry.
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Don't worry about Vista. Let other people find the bugs, let other people moan, let other people have overbloated software so that it 'looks good'. Move onto it when service pack 2 comes out. That's the real vista.
#11
there are roumours that SP3 is coming out for XP, does anybody know anymore on this?
#12
grdesign
Don't worry about Vista. Let other people find the bugs, let other people moan, let other people have overbloated software so that it 'looks good'. Move onto it when service pack 2 comes out. That's the real vista.
Agreed. Definitely the way to go! WinXP still has plenty of life left in it IMO, and SP2 really straightened things out.
#13
kk_cheung
no it works fine in XP iw as refering to the speeds that i am getting in VISTA lol. sorry.


My AMD64 system is working fine in Vista, faster than its Win2k install and around the same speed as its XP install.

The main problem for laptops running Vista is ram and graphics card - ram can be upgraded at a later date so this isn't so much of an issue. On the graphics card front, Intel GMA cards have the PS2.0 support needed for Aero and those that don't can run Vista without aero.

Personally I'm fine with XP, my performance machines will probably have to be upgraded to Vista but I'll keep XP on my ultralights as Vista is probably too much for them.

John
#14
kk_cheung
there are roumours that SP3 is coming out for XP, does anybody know anymore on this?


Not for a while last time I heard, definitely after Vista.

John

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