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BBC anti Christian/Catholic bias over the top ?

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6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
First I am an athiest, but I feel the BBC has going on some sort of overthetop athiest left wing witch hunt againt Catholics and the Pope, i've never seen such coverage by a supposedly "impartial" BBC. Not content with report his message or events, the only things I constantly see on the BBC are "sexual abuse, condoms, aids, homosexuals, women" now, repeat that 10 times to see the BBC coverage. To think that I pay the license fee to this athiest left wing mingers.

Anybody else feel the coverage is negative, bitter, twisted and spitting venom ?
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banned#1
I find the coverage to be fair and accurately represent the majority of people in the country.
banned 1 Like #2
Your an athiest !! OMG so am I
#3
I think the press will continue to do this,until the church just admit they were involved in a cover up-which I doubt they will ever do tbh-I dont think this makes the bbc "atheist",I think it makes them enquiring journalists-are we all just to marvel about how great the visit is without asking searching questions?

Of course its relevant,because they wont give us any answers! The pope making a weak apology to victims wont wash-senior people were involved in a massive cover up of child abuse-many of these people are still in senior positions-maybe we should know why?
#4
Yep agreed, they make it as if thats what catholic religion is all about.

Edited By: Marina on Sep 17, 2010 19:53: ...
#5
Agreed, its all they ever talk about. Its ok to have 50 programs covering it but change the record at some stage.
#6
tis a bit extreme, true though, but extreme none the less
#7
I think the coverage is fair, I don't see why the catholic church is so special and needs to be protected from criticism and some of the popes views on certain issues don't reflect the views of most in this country, I think that the taxpayer is paying for the visit is unfair.
#8
This country has gone to the stinker because of lack of religious morality, with the lack of the church, nothing has replaced it, hard edged left wingers have installed no morality to replace it with, hence a generation of feral youth.
#9
Well I am not an athiest, but I am an atheist and I feel that the BBC is being quite deferential.

Edited By: chesso on Sep 18, 2010 00:36: e
#10
dapunk
This country has gone to the stinker because of lack of religious morality, with the lack of the church, nothing has replaced it, hard edged left wingers have installed no morality to replace it with, hence a generation of feral youth.


^^

Typical comment from someone who takes news articles way too seriously.
banned#11
Wotwot123
dapunk
This country has gone to the stinker because of lack of religious morality, with the lack of the church, nothing has replaced it, hard edged left wingers have installed no morality to replace it with, hence a generation of feral youth.


^^

Typical comment from someone who takes news articles way too seriously.


Can't you get your own avatar?
#12
Dapunk, you come across as being so angry against these, as you put it "athiest left wing mingers" .Are you sure you're not fibbing that you're an atheist?
Especially with this comment : "This country has gone to the stinker because of lack of religious morality, with the lack of the church, nothing has replaced it, hard edged left wingers have installed no morality to replace it with, hence a generation of feral youth."

That doesn't sound like an atheist to me.
#13
Media coverage is always biased towards scandal/cover-ups - not just anti-religion - as it makes for 'exciting' journalism. I myself am a Christian (non-denominational), and can quite obviously see the idiocy presented by the Catholic Churches handling (or lack of handling) of the Child abuses.

I also think that had it been an atheistic group that had committed the same atrocities, the media would have rallied against them - what you have to understand, is that media is always biased - towards itself - as it's all about securing funding, whether that's from public or private sources, as such the journalism issued has to grab the viewer/readers attention, hence they will always be on the side of 'the victim' or against 'the enemy', as the Catholic Church is seen to be in this case.

Josh
#14
man i'm an athiest, but I cant ignore the moral message of a religion, be it christian, jewish, muslim or hindu. In the absense of morality what is left except morality from the state ?

Yes I do feel most of these are spitefull left wingers, they dont go around attacking muslim clerics do they, who go around saying outrageous things like endorsing killing gay people or child marriages. Probably UAF members as well.

Edited By: dapunk on Sep 18, 2010 02:01: drivel
#15
Funny thinking about what your saying dapunk, you have a point. There is some good moral messages in religion, makes you wonder why though. Religions refuse to accept evolution, but the reason we need to be taught morality is because we are nothing more than animals lol.

Problem is, if God made me in his image why is he teaching me morality through religion, surely I should of been born with it?
#16
dapunk
man i'm an athiest, but I cant ignore the moral message of a religion, be it christian, jewish, muslim or hindu. In the absense of morality what is left except morality from the state ?Yes I do feel most of these are spitefull left wingers, they dont go around attacking muslim clerics do they, who go around saying outrageous things like endorsing killing gay people or child marriages. Probably UAF members as well.

Well you're a hypocrite.You don't believe in religion, but you want the rest of the Country to go to Church to gain some morality?

You say that you can't ignore the moral message of religion, be it christian, jewish, muslim or hindu, but then go on to say that these people don't go around attacking muslims for endorsing killing gay people and child marriages.I thought all religions had a moral message to send to us?

Doesn't sound like it to me.
#17
You have natural law, ethics and morality, these are taught by all religions basically, there does not seem to be any morality taught in schools except "do as you please", actually that is the basis of satanism.

I only go around the ethic "dont do onto others that you would not like done yourself" well that one seems to do we well.

Thats about it really, even religous types cant obey that one ethic and go around persecuting people who do not believe in their faith, like Muslims do abroad.

D
#18
The lack of accountability, transparency, the lack of care they show to victims of abuse, the letter the current Pope sent out here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection
Ensuring that RC Priests around the world continued to cover everything up.

How countries around the world held Catholic priests above the law, Ireland especially meaning police forces and authorities basically condoned their abuse through inaction.

The total refusal to be 100% open, 100% accountable all the mean time having the audacity to claim to be morally superior is grotesque and utterly despicable.
#19
Religion is taught in all Catholic schools, so you're wrong there.

"I only go around the ethic "dont do onto others that you would not like done yourself" well that one seems to do we well." Tell that to the young boys that are abused in the name of God.And the many people that have been murdered because they're of a different faith.

Religion breeds hatred, not peace.
#20
I think the world would be a better place if we just accepted where we come from and then decided on where we wanted to go. Religion stands in the way of that as it is putting someone above us who is control when in fact the only people in control are us.

We make our own future, so rather than laying it all in the hands of God why don't we accept our responsibility and work together on a better future for all.

Then again, I could just go do some killing on Call of Duty, its a bit more fun to be honest :3

Edited By: PhearFactor on Sep 18, 2010 02:32: .
#21
PS. I was raised RC, was an alter boy for 5 years, I saw how monotonous lecturing bored and frustrated me, how unfulfilling Catholicism was, how superior Nuns, Priests, even Cardinal Hume, who I met, were, holding themselves above everyone, with no interest at all, in enriching anyone's life and seemed only there to feed their ego and superiority.
#22
PhearFactor
I think the world would be a better place if we just accepted where we come from and then decided on where we wanted to go. Religion stands in the way of that as it is putting someone above us who is control when in fact the only people in control are us. We make our own future, so rather than laying it all in the hands of God why don't we accept our responsibility and work together on a better future for all.Then again, I could just go do some killing on Call of Duty, its a bit more fun to be honest


X) I agree. Or go listen to some Dawkins, he's showing us the way.
#23
Doc1978
Or go listen to some Dawkins, he's showing us the way.


Can you link?

I will probably find the wrong Dawkins and start learning about advanced metaphysical radionics or something.
#24
Sure.You should find a lot of his stuff on Youtube : Richard Dawkins

There's some really enjoyable stuff.
#25
chesso
Well I am not an athiest, but I am an atheist and I feel that the BBC is being quite deferential.


wait wut? :|
#26
Wotwot123
Typical comment from someone who takes news articles way too seriously.


Open your eyes. The public are thick. They need permission to hold a view. That permission comes from seeing celebrities, politicians, or news presenters, tell them it is OK to believe something. The public will never consciously deliver us a good government. The present zeitgeist is a liberal free for all, with left wingers desperate not to be outflanked by coming up with more and more liberal policies. Result - chaos. What we needed instead was propaganda to instill a national spirit and work ethic.

In the UK religion has been replaced by the X factor. This won't serve us in the long run. BTW, I am also an atheist.

Some of the above have commented that the BBC, and other news outlets, have targeted the Catholic church because there is a story there. OK - why don't they tackle Islam? Mohammed personally beheaded six hundred people. Later verses of the Quoran cancel earlier verses (principle of abrogation), and the last verse tells Moslems to slaughter unbelievers. Yet Moslems insist on a literal interpretation, which means we have a clash of civilisations. Not a peep from the beeb on this. Women's rights groups are rarely willing to stand up to the Moslem community when women's rights are infringed. Liberals are self serving cowards. In an evolutionary sense, they exist to perpetuate their own organisatons. In real world terms they feather their nests and create more jobs for liberals.

Think of the aid which has flowed into countries in Africa and Asia. What happened to it? We haven't seen those countries develop. Much of the aid, especially through the UN, gets sucked back into consulting firms where people earn a packet. Ask someone who has volunteered for the UN to work at an NGO. The programmes are a con.

It is true that religion has been the source of conflict around the world. But the general public are too stupid to work out their own philosophy. If it isn't Christianity, then hello UK taliban.
#27
Well said chortle, I cant believe the all out attack I am seeing on christianity by the BBC, its disgusting, these left wing types never do this to Islam, which is not merely theology, but actually carrrys out its interpretations worldwide.

When was the last time you saw the Catholic church have a policy of killing gay people ?

When did you see women refused the right to go out alone or dress as they please.

When did you last see catholic priests openly endorse and encourage child marriages like Islamic clerics do ? I dont see Islamic clerics heckled.

I'm no supporter of catholics ideology, but I see a far greater threat from other religions that seek to impose their view upon me by pure force.

The alternative to christianity is islam, think about about that. Even for athiests. Athiests can rattle the foundation of christianity, but they cannot rattle Islam. Islam has special laws and ways to deal with athiests that are not very pleasent.

Oh i'm sure doubters will start quoting church history 1000 years ago but that was then and this is the now and reality. A total absense of morality from religion except that which dictated by the state and a turning a blind eye to the worse excesses of another religion that practices principles similar to 1000 years ago is dangerous for the future.

You now once I read this little book in a hotel left by the owner, it just stated some rules about how to treat each other and natural ethics, it was actually written by the Scientology creator Hubbard when I read the small print but made no mention of this. Now before you go on about it, it was actually very good and just pointed out natural law and ethics and morality, it looked it had picked an chosen the best bits from christianity, islam and other religions, without being judgmental and imposing. If anybody knows this book let me know. And no i've nothing to do with that lot either.

D.

Edited By: dapunk on Sep 18, 2010 13:00: drivel
banned#28
dapunk


The alternative to christianity is islam, think about about that. Even for athiests.


So if you're not a christian, you're a muslim? But I'm not a christian.

That means I must be a muslim.

Or you're just wrong.
banned#29
dapunk
man i'm an athiest, but I cant ignore the moral message of a religion, be it christian, jewish, muslim or hindu. In the absense of morality what is left except morality from the state ?



I'm always amazed at people who get this back to front - religion doesn't give birth to morality, morality gives birth to religion.

In the absence of religion, the morality arises from the community and the individual. The Ten Commandments aren't that revolutionary. Most are just common sense ideas for how to live together harmoniously and they arose from the morality of the time (although slightly twisted to serve the needs of the powerful).
#30
Just remember the taliban made everybody not a muslim wear yellow arm bands, in their ideal world there is no such thing as athiests. You can be an athiest, you cant deny your cultural christian background being british, unless you are an immigrant or your parents are immigrants, which means you come from a different cultural background most likely, with a different set of moral principles defined by thousands of years of religion. Christian law and morality are the basis and backbone of the UK culture, which has sadly been erroded by the left wing.

D

Edited By: dapunk on Sep 18, 2010 13:32: drivel
banned#31
dapunk
Just remember the taliban made everybody not a muslim wear yellow arm bands, in their ideal world there is no such thing as athiests. You can be an athiest, you cant deny your cultural christian background being british, unless you are an immigrant or your parents are immigrants. Christian law and morality are the basis and backbone of the UK culture, which has sadly been erroded by the left wing.

D


As someone who is probably left-wing in your book, I apologise for our support for things like women's rights, racial integration and LGBT rights.

Or maybe things aren't as clear cut as you'd like them to be and require a little bit of thought before looking to blame a whole range of disparate ideologies that make up what you consider to be 'the left-wing'.

Lawyered!
#32
I must be left wing then because I believe in "women's rights, racial integration and LGBT rights" also. Hindu's and Muslims still practice morality, the athiest do not most, except what is dictated to them on TV. The fault of the left wing is to try and make everybody the same whilst destroying peoples individuality and cultural identity, something the Labour party have done very well for 13 years.

Edited By: dapunk on Sep 18, 2010 13:28: dross
banned#33
dapunk
I must be left wing then because I believe in "women's rights, racial integration and LGBT rights" also. Hindu's and Muslims still practice morality, the athiest do not most, except what is dictated to them on TV. The current message from tv is "do as you please" which is one of the three tennants of satanism.

D


That is the silliest thing I've seen in quite a while. The idea that atheists can't be 'moral' people is obscenely silly. That's like saying that all people who are religious are 'moral' people, when clearly they aren't regardless of the subjective nature of morality.

You also seem to think that 'TV' is one consistent message, when it clearly isn't. There are a range of views broadcast.

Some people may also 'read' as well. There are many, many 'books' being 'written' with a range of ideologies and views.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book
#34
I barely watch TV now, it is for the moronic masses, if you want to support this then fine, I can honestly say the British public are totally thick. Current TV is controlled by left wingers who want to dumb down the nation into a form of regession. Ever see "Year Of The Sex Olympics" a 1960s play that you can now watch on youtube, that film was brilliant starring Lenard Rossiter, everything in that movie is true now.

Books ? The current generation of under 50s (and I am under 50 !) are totally dumb when it comes to reading book, and more likey to learn from video games and satellite TV !

Soon they will become so stupid that they will get priests to read out their holy texts to them, because they are too stupid to understand the bible or koran or whatever. Or maybe the holy texts of X-factor and Jeremy Kyle and Coronation Street.

D

Edited By: dapunk on Sep 18, 2010 13:46: drivel
banned#35
dapunk
I barely watch TV now, it is for the moronic masses, if you want to support this then fine, I can honestly say the British public are totally thick. Current TV is controlled by left wingers who want to dumb down the nation into a form of regession. Ever see "Year Of The Sex Olympics" a 1960s play that you can now watch on youtube, that film was brilliant starring Lenard Rossiter, everything in that movie is true now.

Books ? The current generation of under 50s (and I am under 50 !) are totally dumb when it comes to reading book, and more likey to learn from video games and satellite TV !

Soon they will become so stupid that they will get priests to read out their holy texts to them, because they are too stupid to understand the bible or koran or whatever.

D


Sorry (and I mean that) but not everyone under 50 is 'dumb'.

It's sad that you think that, and I know the media likes to propagate that illusion, but it's just not true.
#36
I can be accused of dumbness I watch some TV and play video games, but I think i'm quite well rounded whist trying to read different books on different topics (glad I go this kindle, reading stuff never dreamed off cos its free out of copyright) and have been involved in the arts with music and ceramics. But you know, that stuff is sometimes an effort. Sure I can just revert to a lazy book or just not even bother and be pacififed by the TV and video games.

People should really watch "year of the sex olympics", I think its better than Fahrenheit 451, it is currently on youtube. The quality is good enough because this was how the BBC broadcast the play in the 60s.

D.

Edited By: dapunk on Sep 18, 2010 13:52: drivel
#37
Religion does have many negative connotations, it should be a personal choice and we shouldnt be ploughing so much money into churches,mosques.

Although not religious, I like to pray loudly to Allah on the busy tube, I usually find that I get the whole carriage to myself.
#38
FilthAndFurry
...The Ten Commandments aren't that revolutionary. Most are just common sense ideas for how to live together harmoniously and they arose from the morality of the time.


Not sure I'd really agree with 'most'...
"Do not have any other gods before me."
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."
"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name."
"Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. For six days you shall labour and do all your work. But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns."

I suppose these ones are okay...

"Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you."
"You shall not murder."
"You shall not commit adultery."
"You shall not steal."
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour."
"You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."
banned 1 Like #39
OP sounds like someone who has just discovered a particular world view after a little bit of reading and now acts as enlightened as superior as any pompous religious follower out there. In fact I'd say more so. He's giving atheism a bad name which may actually be his original agenda...
#40
seeing the BBC broadcast this Christian/Catholic event makes a welcome change from the never ending daily news of Islam. To be fair they should be broadcasting Church of England as that is religion of this country, but as with most forms of media there is always going to be some bias

Religion is yet again another hot controversial subject.

athiest +1

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