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BBC iPlayer to get a license?

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BBC chiefs want a radical overhaul of the TV licence fee so that the corporation's popular iPlayer online catch-up service is no longer free. The BBC's technology chief said viewers were getting 'a…
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
BBC chiefs want a radical overhaul of the TV licence fee so that the corporation's popular iPlayer online catch-up service is no longer free.

The BBC's technology chief said viewers were getting 'a free ride' by watching its shows on the internet-based iPlayer rather than on television.

More and more viewers - particularly students - are thought to be watching BBC programmes on demand via iPlayer without having to pay for a TV licence.

The BBC is drawing up plans that could include:

* Viewers having to buy an extra licence just for the iPlayer
* Increasing the cost of the current TV licence to include the iPlayer
* Forcing viewers to pay a subscription to use the iPlayer service

BBC technology chief Erik Huggers said: 'My view is that if you are using the iPlayer you have to be a television licence fee payer.

'I don't believe in a free ride. If you are consuming BBC services then you have to be a licence holder.'
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
More at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1184474/BBC-plan-new-licence-fee-iPlayer-stop-viewers-getting-free-ride.html

Whilst i can partly understand the reasoning, the TV license at the moment only covers live TV, and not catch up services. If this is implemented, will ITV player and 4OD also need a license to be watched?
#2
Its not free anyway, the cheeky ******s

we pay for it as its funded with our licence fees :x

if they start to charge for it then I want a reduction in licence fee

shame this wasnt a vote as it would be ice station zerbra in here
1 Like #3
They should make the site password protected, giving each TV licence holder a unique password that allows unlimited access from one UK ISP address at any given time. That way licence holders continue to get it for free and non-licence fee payers can be charged separately. They could then draw revenue from outside the UK too, instead of blocking access for many of their services as they currently do.
#4
What a load of rubbish:
"More and more viewers - particularly students - are thought to be watching BBC programmes on demand via iPlayer without having to pay for a TV licence."
All the students i knew watched tv on a tv without a licence.
#5
Fair play. I'd quite like to see a future where if you use iPlayer, you have to pay for it. It only seems fair to me. However, if the BBC want to change the rules so that you have to pay for a service that you do use, I think it's only fair that they should move entirely to a subscription model, so we don't have to pay for services that we don't use, too. In other words, bye bye TV license fee.
#6
It's always irritated me that the residents of the Irish Republic get all our TV programmes absolutely free. How are they going to fix that?
#7
Liddle ol' me
They should make the site password protected, giving each TV licence holder a unique password that allows unlimited access from one UK ISP address at any given time. That way licence holders continue to get it for free and non-licence fee payers can be charged separately. They could then draw revenue from outside the UK too, instead of blocking access for many of their services as they currently do.


+1 Agreed:thumbsup:
#8
Was going to go through and count the weasel words, but noticed:


and promptly took the rest for granted.
#9
Afterburner
It's always irritated me that the residents of the Irish Republic get all our TV programmes absolutely free. How are they going to fix that?


Easy stop the fee and let BBC fend for itself like - the TV licence fee is actaully for any TV channel its the BBC funding fee
#10
janz70
Easy stop the fee and let BBC fend for itself like - the TV licence fee is actaully for any TV channel its the BBC funding fee

So you want 10 minute advert breaks 3 times an hour during programmes? I dont' watch any commercial television for that reason ... absolutely hate the long breaks during which I forget what programme I was watching, what happened and why I was watching it :whistling:
banned#11
i would rather have adverts than pay almost £150 for a licence

i only ever watch a few programs like dr who, torchwood and merlin
all of which are not on atm, so im paying the crappy fee just to not watch it
and why the hell cant we have the choice not to recieve bbc once the analogue signal is turned off
#12
This subject divides everyone, some good input in here. I despise adverts but would probably be prepared to sacrifice the extortionate licence fee for them.
#13
I can't remember when I last watched bbc, I always watch virgin media channels now. I also use delay tv to avoid the adverts. Also maybe I am wrong but was the tv licence not increased in price a few times already?
BBC also needs more programs about going to space. Who is with me?
#14
Afterburner
So you want 10 minute advert breaks 3 times an hour during programmes? I dont' watch any commercial television for that reason ... absolutely hate the long breaks during which I forget what programme I was watching, what happened and why I was watching it :whistling:


oh dear alzimers setting in at such a young age, as pointed out pause live gets rid of the ads and ads are not on for 10 mins at a time thats just your perception of time being distorted by your failing mind.

If it became subscription based instead of free like ITV/CH4/CH5 they could do it without the ads but they wouldnt would they .

For me I'd live with the ads and save £150 a year - it will end up like sky but at least we have a choice to pay for sky or not unlike the BEEB
#15
Surely they would have realised this when iPlayer was introduced??
#16
What the BBC wants the BBC gets
#17
Wouldnt be fair to charge extra for a tv license as people who dont use iplayer will be suffering.
#18
mr.potato_head
Wouldnt be fair to charge extra for a tv license as people who dont use iplayer will be suffering.


The fact is the TV licence fund is used to fund all aspects of the BBC; - be it TV (anologe & digital) Radio & Web based content.

So we already pay for it - its only those who dont have license "listen up students and people in foreign countries" who dont .

so as sugested earlier make all those logging on put in their licence number to watch it - job sorted :thumbsup:
banned#19
janz70

so as sugested earlier make all those logging on put in their licence number to watch it - job sorted :thumbsup:


unfortunatly that would cost them money to set up so it would leave them with a choice, either they pay or we do

hard choice for them
#20
janz70
so as sugested earlier make all those logging on put in their licence number to watch it - job sorted :thumbsup:


All well and good, until someone makes a license number generator. It'll be difficult to make secure, so it doesn't get hacked.
banned#21
The iPlayer should be limited to those households already in possession of a tv license. That's purely because based on the current system one could watch iPlayer without a license. Makes sense.

The problem lies with where the BBC goes from here. Used to be a big fan of the BBC but their output is too rubbish to defend anymore.

Dr Who, EastEnders, Cash in the Flogging Attic Hunt, Robin Hoodie etc. are rubbish that get re-commissioned.

If the BBC made attempts to produce great drama then maybe I'd think it was worth it.

The only good thing about the BBC is the drinks are cheap - not that might outrage a few people.
#22
peodude
All well and good, until someone makes a license number generator. It'll be difficult to make secure, so it doesn't get hacked.


Games & Software companies nearly manage it most of the time - nothing is 100%

it all depends how they generate the licence numbers, if it takes any effort on thier behalf , we will just end up paying more
#23
The BBC currently posts videos on Youtube, how long before they want a license for that too?
#24
"The iPlayer should be limited to those households already in possession of a tv license. That's purely because based on the current system one could watch iPlayer without a license. Makes sense."

Expect for poxy websites, making people use neighbours wifis, non-groundable internet sources, creating a system to check where the person is located and trying to enforce the rules.
#25
Give me a break, even to own a TV you need a license and I can't the the % of those who use iplayer but don't own a TV is anything more than 1% of users.

Prat!
banned#26
electriclinux
"The iPlayer should be limited to those households already in possession of a tv license. That's purely because based on the current system one could watch iPlayer without a license. Makes sense."

Expect for poxy websites, making people use neighbours wifis, non-groundable internet sources, creating a system to check where the person is located and trying to enforce the rules.


I'm no expert, but couldn't you just make it so that people had to create an account, register their license number and then log in each time like the SkyPlayer?
#27
It is possible that a system like sky player could work but the problem is when tv was emerging bbc was there and was (and still is for some people) the main channels. Iplayer on the other hand could work as a pay to use service and try and compete with sky player or as a charge required if you have a computer/tv.

The first option would be difficult due to the competition and people would expect more from it (no adverts, hd etc.) but would be based on a fairer system. The second alternative would be really difficult to force onto people and would have difficulties with owning more than one computer (or a license per house).
#28
janz70
oh dear alzimers setting in at such a young age, as pointed out pause live gets rid of the ads and ads are not on for 10 mins at a time thats just your perception of time being distorted by your failing mind.

If it became subscription based instead of free like ITV/CH4/CH5 they could do it without the ads but they wouldnt would they .

For me I'd live with the ads and save £150 a year - it will end up like sky but at least we have a choice to pay for sky or not unlike the BEEB
Were you born bloody rude or did you have to work at it?

And your assumption that everyone will be able to afford Sky-type boxes, and arrange to start watching late so that they can chase play and spin past the ads is fanciful.
#29
Afterburner
Were you born bloody rude or did you have to work at it?

And your assumption that everyone will be able to afford Sky-type boxes, and arrange to start watching late so that they can chase play and spin past the ads is fanciful.


no work involved ;-)

Relax I was only toying with you, anyway if the BEEB stopped charging you'd have another £150 to buy one of those new fangly skype boxes thingy majigs:thumbsup:
banned#30
FilthAndFurry
I'm no expert, but couldn't you just make it so that people had to create an account, register their license number and then log in each time like the SkyPlayer?


Very sensible suggestion I have to say.

BBC spend an awful lot of money on their web productions using money that license payers shell out for TV CONTENT. I'd probably be more inclined to ask them why they are spending license payers money on things they shouldn't be.

That said, I do make use of iPlayer.
#31
guv
Very sensible suggestion I have to say.

BBC spend an awful lot of money on their web productions using money that license payers shell out for TV CONTENT. I'd probably be more inclined to ask them why they are spending license payers money on things they shouldn't be.

That said, I do make use of iPlayer.


Yes and no, the fee isnt just for TV its for radio aswell (or used to be) and so im sure theyve reworded it now to cover the website. You could argue that the world has access to the BBC website when were the ones who pay for it. I tried to watch the iplayer on holiday but I couldnt, the website wouldnt let me.

As others have said, they should just make you log in to the website and register your license number etc. But in saying that this would then create a whole new department at the BBC for technical support, which ultimately we would end up paying for, which means your license fee would go up again.

I did read that the BBC wanted to increase the license fee by another (roughly 100 quid a year) and I didnt read it that long ago. It did say that this was rejected though.... bloody good job if you ask me.

I truely do hate the fact we are forced to still pay this license, I strongly believe there should be a choice. The technology is there that would give us a choice, but they darent use it because the BBC would go bust over night and they know it.

I hope in my life time I see the day that this is all abolished.

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