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I was shocked at the shoddy bias and "journalism" of Watchdog and the supposed PS3 issue (strange they bring it up at the Slim Launch) but here are some quotes from the "Journalist" Iain Lee who pre… Read More
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
I was shocked at the shoddy bias and "journalism" of Watchdog and the supposed PS3 issue (strange they bring it up at the Slim Launch) but here are some quotes from the "Journalist" Iain Lee who presented the piece, who actually works for Microsoft freelance :

"You have to feel sorry for everyone that plumped for the PS3 over the 360. Not the Sony diehards that would buy a polished poo if it had the Sony logo on. No, Im talking about those poor souls who were stood in Comets humming and hawing over which console to buy and plumped for the shiny black plastic thing that had a familiar name."

"And what the sodding hell is Blu-ray all about? Thats not even how you spell blue. It should have an e at the end, B-L-U-E! Not Blu. Pathetic. Yes, it may have beaten HD DVD, a format I didnt even know existed until the announcement that it was being withdrawn, but are people really going to dump their old DVD players to watch something that is a) only slightly better quality and b) more expensive?"

"The exact same thing is happening with the PS3, but this time it hasnt worked anywhere near as well as Sony had expected. Firstly, the 360 came out and is as close to perfect as you can get. Dont get me wrong, I may be in the employ of Microsoft to write this column, but there is no way Im taking dirty money."

Really i've never seen Watchdog used as a hatchet job before. This could end the integrity of the show.
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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banned#1
i suppose the real question that your post raises is




































































who cares
#2
dimebars
i suppose the real question that your post raises is

who cares


in b4 i had chance to say it...
#3
I think anyone who has a 13 month old PS3 that is dead might think differently,
#4
Mentioning the 360 when it was a Watchdog feature on the PS3 will just cause arguments.......................................
#5
tonyg1962
I think anyone who has a 13 month old PS3 that is dead might think differently,


I've had my PS3 for 2 years now but i'm on my 6th Xbox 360 ! Everybody I know has had the RROD but PS3 hardware faults are like under 4% the industry average. The issue is why they singled out Sony on a none issue. Your more likely to have a laser error. What about all other electrical gear that is over 12 months old ?

D.
#6
LoL I laughed muchly, he just sounded like a spoilt brat who instead of receiving a PS3 he desperately wanted for his birthday had an Xbox360 and his parent told him he was stuck with it.

What a gimp, it was Poor journalism but TBH the main point of the show was regarding the Yellow Light of Death which is an issue and has been handled a bit poorley by Sony.
banned#7
You can't accept this guys word for anything when he says he didn't even know HD DVD existed till the announcement that it was dead.
banned 1 Like #8
things break

things fail

i think the watchdog article was more to highlight Sony's refusal to do anything about broken PS3's without charging £130 for the privilege rather than to try and make the PS3 look bad
1 Like #9
OP........... fanboy fail.
#10
lol..Wow...this sounds so much like something you would read from the Spoilt BarSteward character in the Viz!

:lol:

Edit : Dummy = Spat Out..............Toys = Thrown out of the Pram :lol:
#11
Watchdog hasn't had any integrity for years, and it's sensationalist clap trap has been steadily getting worse. But then we live in a country where the Daily Mail is the top selling newspaper, so what did you expect honest reporting based on the facts and telling the full story? LOL

I think if you actually work out the numbers on Watchdogs claims, their 12500 figure is less than 0.5% of the 2.5 million Sony say they have sold, which is much lower than the 3-5% failure rates expected in the electronics industry. So I would expect the legal papers to arrive at the BBC sometime today, Sony aren't one to shy away from litigation. But still Watchdog were right on one thing, under UK law (Sale of Goods act) they should repair or replace them out of the "12months warranty" for a period of up to 6 yrs (which is considered reasonable for that price range of electronics). But then everyone else gets away with it......the whole lot need a good kicking as far as I'm concerned, what's the point in consumer protection laws no-one enforces?
#12
More by Iain Lee "journalist" .....


http://tech.uk.msn.com/gaming/article.aspx?cp-documentid=7838134

I wouldnt be suprised if microsoft deleted this page.

D.
#13
megalomaniac
Sony aren't one to shy away from litigation. But still Watchdog were right on one thing, under UK law (Sale of Goods act) they should repair or replace them out of the "12months warranty" for a period of up to 6 yrs (which is considered reasonable for that price range of electronics). But then everyone else gets away with it......the whole lot need a good kicking as far as I'm concerned, what's the point in consumer protection laws no-one enforces?


The SOGA isn't worth the paper it's printed on...

I for one however am very suprised that no-one if the US has ever taken to Microsoft or Sony to court for supplying defective goods...
#14
Didn't Ian Lee used to wrote for 360gamer? or have I got the wrong magazine...
#15
can I just state OP by saying BBC "SHOULD" be sued for slander, you've left yourself wide open for a libel case yourself.
banned#16
Celticsun
LoL I laughed muchly, he just sounded like a spoilt brat who instead of receiving a PS3 he desperately wanted for his birthday had an Xbox360 and his parent told him he was stuck with it.

What a gimp, it was Poor journalism but TBH the main point of the show was regarding the Yellow Light of Death which is an issue and has been handled a bit poorley by Sony.


I didn't see the show, but I'm surprised that Iain Lee did the report for two reasons. He's well-known in the 360 community and he's rubbish. At everything.

Again, I didn't see the show, but those comments do seem very petty and 'fanboyish'.
#17
Stick it in the oven or get Adrian the healer on the case he will fix it.
#18
dapunk
More by Iain Lee "journalist" .....


http://tech.uk.msn.com/gaming/article.aspx?cp-documentid=7838134

I wouldnt be suprised if microsoft deleted this page.

D.


Have you seen the Watchdog comments section on this? Now there's a lesson in selective editing, I've never seen so many "This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules." and "This comment has been referred to the moderators." not to mention the "[removed by Moderator]" all over what people have written. I particularly enjoyed "Anyway, the PS3 is no where near as unreliable as [console removed]." :giggle:
#19
I laughed so hard when it came on.
Even had my Mrs sat asking "dint microsoft fix yours for free?"
#20
FilthAndFurry
I didn't see the show, but I'm surprised that Iain Lee did the report for two reasons. He's well-known in the 360 community and he's rubbish. At everything.



Hence why they chose him...

I assume the thread starter has never seen Watchdog before, this is entirely typical of the program.

John
#21
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/09/playstation3_and_the_yellow_li.html#comments

Looks bad, they have deleted 100s of comments. I wouldnt suprised if they announced they received over 1000 complaints next week.

D
banned#22
dapunk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/09/playstation3_and_the_yellow_li.html#comments

Looks bad, they have deleted 100s of comments. I wouldnt suprised if they announced they received over 1000 complaints next week.

D


As far as I can see 100's of comments have been reported by PS3 fan boys disagreeing with the complaints made against the PS3 lol :lol:
suspended#23
Lol for him thinking Xbox is better when Xbox has like 5 times the failure rate of a PS3 or even higher
Fanboyism, a glorious thing
#24
DarkKnight
Lol for him thinking Xbox is better when Xbox has like 5 times the failure rate of a PS3 or even higher
Fanboyism, a glorious thing


He's obviously unaware of the 360 failure rate, which is a joke. Even if you take the lowest estimates for 360 failure (around 16% iirc), then over a million more 360's have failed worldwide than have been sold in the UK and we're the 3rd biggest market. However, most studies put it around 30-40% and some at >50% now work out the actual numbers on that if you fancy a shock. :thumbsup:
suspended#25
megalomaniac
He's obviously unaware of the 360 failure rate, which is a joke. Even if you take the lowest estimates for 360 failure (around 16% iirc), then over a million more 360's have failed worldwide than have been sold in the UK and we're the 3rd biggest market. However, most studies put it around 30-40% and some at >50% now work out the actual numbers on that if you fancy a shock. :thumbsup:


I read on one website, i think it was Engadget, where one guy went through 9 Xbox 360's or more, and it wasn't in a bad place or anything, just shocking really
If i bought something like a games console, if it broke i would never buy it again, but people seem to be happy about just getting a replacement, it shouldn't happen in the first place.
I've had a PS3 for 2 years, the most it has ever done was freeze a few times, but that was down to the game itself as other games didn't
#26
where one guy went through 9 Xbox 360's or more,


You have to wonder are they misusing them, covering vents shoved in TV cabinet with no circulation.
suspended#27
dontasciime
You have to wonder are they misusing them, covering vents shoved in TV cabinet with no circulation.


Thought i couldn't find the link, but i just did, and it's in fact 11 consoles :w00t:, and is now on number 12
Link
#28
It's not fair to compare failure rate of Xbox 360 vs PS3
There is obviously a power difference between playing loads of games and just watching Blu Rays ;-)
suspended#29
natversion1
It's not fair to compare failure rate of Xbox 360 vs PS3
There is obviously a power difference between playing loads of games and just watching Blu Rays ;-)


Blu-Ray - Blu-Ray Disc
PS3 Game - Blu-Ray Disc

nice try
#30
have to agree with op thts hardly journalism, slating the ps3 when he clearly knows nothing about it

blu-ray is getting cheaper, and its not only slightly better its a different class

I fell watchdog has been slowly falling down the hill for a while now
[helper]#31
Johnmcl7
I assume the thread starter has never seen Watchdog before, this is entirely typical of the program.

John


Completely agree - its a consumer program not a balanced documentary. Unfortunately the quality, accuracy and bias of BBC and ITV documentary programs are much poorer today than they used to be.......
#32
gari189
Completely agree - its a consumer program not a balanced documentary. Unfortunately the quality, accuracy and bias of BBC and ITV documentary programs are much poorer today than they used to be.......



To be fair... it wouldnt make much of a story if they downplayed everything...
banned#33
dapunk
I've had my PS3 for 2 years now but i'm on my 6th Xbox 360 ! Everybody I know has had the RROD but PS3 hardware faults are like under 4% the industry average. The issue is why they singled out Sony on a none issue. Your more likely to have a laser error. What about all other electrical gear that is over 12 months old ?


But MS have extended the warrenty to 3 years. I guess watchdog thing MS have recognised there is a problem and done something to sort it. And Sony have done........?
#34
guv
But MS have extended the warrenty to 3 years. I guess watchdog thing MS have recognised there is a problem and done something to sort it. And Sony have done........?


Having memory problems are we? It took a massive failure rate and sustained public outcry for Microsoft to even admit there was a problem! Then it took a whole lot more pressure and the threat of a number of class actions in the US for them to actually do something about it and they've still not fixed the problem! Do you honestly think Sony (or anyone for that matter, Microsoft included) would extend a warranty for problem that affects <0.5% of their product? I personally think they should fix the effected consoles, by in reality no company would ever extend the warranty for such a small number.
banned#35
megalomaniac
Having memory problems are we? It took a massive failure rate and sustained public outcry for Microsoft to even admit there was a problem! Then it took a whole lot more pressure and the threat of a number of class actions in the US for them to actually do something about it and they've still not fixed the problem! Do you honestly think Sony (or anyone for that matter, Microsoft included) would extend a warranty for problem that affects <0.5% of their product? I personally think they should fix the effected consoles, by in reality no company would ever extend the warranty for such a small number.


What has the view that I might suffer with memory loss got to do with it? The fact remains, MS has addressed the issue. End of story. Sony hasn't. New story. Get over yourself.
#36
I dont have either but this fanboy thing is fun to watch,:p
#37
I thought a particular piece of sloppy journalism was when Anne Robinson stated that once the PS3 console has the Yellow Light of Death then the contents of the hard drive cannot be recovered.

You're not screwed. The hard drive is. Just get your toolkit.

BFN,

fp.
#38
guv
What has the view that I might suffer with memory loss got to do with it? The fact remains, MS has addressed the issue. End of story. Sony hasn't. New story. Get over yourself.


Maybe the that fact that you're holding Microsoft up as a shining light when in reality it took years for them to do anything about a problem which is many many times worse than Sony's issues. Sony has addressed the issue: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sony-tackles-bbc-over-ps3-failure-report which is a lot more than Microsoft ever did without the looming threat class actions and huge public outcry.

Now like I said I think they should sort the effected consoles, it's good customer service after all, but the fact remains they're doing a lot more than Microsoft did at the same stage in the RROD saga. Microsoft just denied anything was going on at all.
#39
fanpages
I thought a particular piece of sloppy journalism was when Anne Robinson stated that once the PS3 console has the Yellow Light of Death then the contents of the hard drive cannot be recovered.

You're not screwed. The hard drive is. Just get your toolkit.

BFN,

fp.


Made me laugh as well, like the guy who couldn't get all his sacred photos off his Ps3 that the guys fixed in the van.

Felt like saying "your clearly too stupid to own any electronic equipment, take everything back to currys and ask them to swap it all for a box of crayons"
#40
I always thought Watchdog was about free speech and looking after the people, when on there website it is clearly censoring everything other than praise for their piece on the PS3. At the moment they have censored 66% of all comments about the show!! Oh Dear!!

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