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BBC Steals Charity Money

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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
i have always been skeptical regarding all these BBC 'relief' programmes that are broadcast as they are generally comedy/rating shows and all the money is spent on payin for people that get free trips to africa and the following is just a small level fraud that is being committed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7392213.stm
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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
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#2
not to mentioned their completely biased news coverage.
banned#3
Mclovin
not to mentioned their completely biased news coverage.


how is it biased? :?
#4
doughnuty
how is it biased? :?


Anything to do with eastern europe more importantly the demonising of Serbia, and to a certain extent the happenings in China.
#5
Although credit where its due, they did pay it back with interest, without OFCOM or whoever forcing them. As for "biased" news, its a darn sight better than any other news programme on TV, and its one of the few with an air of professionalism left to it, not all dumbed down approaches.

As for ITV.. well thats another league altogether with stealing money from the public... As for giving an award to the wrong show, how did that happen?
#6
Lets not forget the fact that a lot of money HAS gone to good causes, lots from people who wouldn't have donated otherwise.
#7
Squizz
Although credit where its due, they did pay it back with interest, without OFCOM or whoever forcing them. As for "biased" news, its a darn sight better than any other news programme on TV, and its one of the few with an air of professionalism left to it, not all dumbed down approaches.

As for ITV.. well thats another league altogether with stealing money from the public... As for giving an award to the wrong show, how did that happen?


And people say Murdoch is a thief..:whistling:
#8
doughnuty
how is it biased? :?


BBC news and western news are self censored and biased heavily in some news reporting. In a free press world, the bias is surprising too much! Of course in an autocratic state the media reporting is even more biased, but that's to be expected..but for a free press, why? For example, western news is now virtually devoid of dead bodies and red blood (which the viewers find disturbing) since the Vietnam war and Korean War. When they report on international news they rarely express the comments of politic leaders around the world except those of UK PM and US president. I bet you seldom see BBC and ITV reporting on a wide spread of opinions by other leading political leaders around the world. When was the last time that you did see the big world stage political leaders from Japan, China, Germany, France, Italy ...commenting on world affairs shoulder to shoulder with the UK PM? What is get in the direction of one country but what about the directions from 100 countries around the world? Whenever you see factual news reported ask yourself how often do you see academics, historians, engineers, doctors involved ! For example, in world affairs involving other parts of the world did you ever see professors from the top ranking universities around the world making wise and informed observations to a BBC or ITV news reporter in the 9:00 and 10:00 news? Another example: on matters regarding Islam , have you ever seen an Oxford University Professor in Islamic Studies on TV expressing the views objectively instead of some biased person from the street? When it came to mad cow disease did you see an interview with a professor of biology or did you see news reporting of politicians who have no scientific skills? For all the UK foreign correspondents most of them don't even understand or speak the local language. How do they report if they could not even read or speak the local language. A van that is marked in foreign text as an ambulance is reported as a police van, is an example! In UK, the gun crime is reported as a "black" crime by the news media. However how come when it comes to sex abuse, children abuse in care homes and serial murders they are not reported as "white" crime....I bet you will find it very hard to cite even one black serial murderer or sexual abuser or a care home abuser in the same scale as: Sutcliffe; FRED AND ROSE WEST;HAROLD SHIPMAN;Ian Brady and Myra Hindley; Steve Wright; Jersey youth care homes;Bryn Estyn children's home in Wrexham..... Is this not not bias? Did you ever see news reporting on what the Chinese and Russians and the Japanese think of the middle east for every event? Did you ever see special new events on India, China, Russia, Africa... on a positive theme! No, they are always biased to bad news! So what about human rights in China, India, Russia....; does the new report tell you that there is more human rights in these countries in their current period of industrial revolution than that for UK in its industrial revolution in the Victorian era when people in UK were supposed the richest on this planet?

To over come this biased reporting I would suggest readers learn other languages and hook up to the satellite or internet radio, you will be amazed how news is reported in so many different ways for the same international event!
banned#9
"BBC Steals Money From The Public"

yes, it's called the licence fee.....
#10
Mclovin
not to mentioned their completely biased news coverage.


Every news programme is biased, who behind the media is not?
1 Like #11
its no surprise about the bbc, they have been ripping us off for years - its happened on radio 1 where i have phoned in for competitions myself and even on blue peter - a childrens programme where they faked a winner...WTF? - all these programmes with premium rate line phone line companies which are subsidiaries of the BBC i.e. THEY ARE THE BBC and have been taking our money for phone ins aswell as making us pay for tv we dont want! passing the buck down to the subsidiary company is just them trying to shirk the blame off themselves (onto themselves infact???)

they are paying people with celebrity status untold amounts because they 'demand it' - there is a huge row at the moment with Celebrity Come Dancing because the judges are greedy and jealous of ITVs X-Factor judges and want more money? they are demanding upto £90,000 each for 12 weeks work? and now this has happened the professional dancers on the show are also now complaining about ONLY being on £24,000 per series and they want more money too. apparantly jonathon ross is on £300,000 a year???? where is this going to end? scrap the BBC's hold on license fees (i call it BIG BAD CORPORATION) - put adverts on them and save everyone £140 or whatever it is a year x millions of homes = billions per year . the BBC take liberties with our money - start rubbish channels like BBC3 with nothing on but **** that no one watches and think they are providing us with a service? (also not everyone has sky/freeview/virgin and doesnt even have access to these channels!)

as for itv and ofcom - itv are robbing ****s and ofcom are no better for not replying to complaints.

i complained to ofcom and ITV last year about a late night quiz program on ITV that started every night after midnight. it so happened my mum became mentally ill last year - although we hadnt realised how ill she had got (as she was good at hiding it) - we found out she was ringing these programs 100 times a night after the fact - apparantly 100 times per night was the limit that people are allowed to call per day. at £1.50 per call x 100 being £150 plus VAT every night for about 10 days added upto just under £1800.00 - she was a helpless pensioner and thought it was free in the state she was in. when we complained to BT (as they shouldnt have let it goes this far) ITV and ofcom - we were told we had to pay the bill by BT and ITV and ofcom didnt even reply!

these tv channels and phone lines make me sick - i refuse to call any of them anymore and more fool the people that are sucked in and watch the rubbish they produce. imo the license fee should be abandoned and let the BBC advertise like hundreds of other channels do. we have got used to these adverts now - whats another 2 channels and a few radio programmes.

apologies - end of rant :)
#12
Hang on, why should BT have done something? Nothing to do with them, they just provide the service.

If some bloke gets on the bus, to a cliff, and jumps off, should the bus company have responsibility, no.
#13
BT set credit limits per customer and let hers go far beyond this - or are you not aware of this?
#14
superhot
its no surprise about the bbc, they have been ripping us off for years - i............
apologies - end of rant :)


In truth many clever and smart public relations or so called communications officers are experts in mind psychology... in reality people like advertising and the "dreams" rather than reality, viewers like exciting and manipulated reality show, any honest programming rarely draw huge viewing audience. These smart people know people like a good show and drama. They know viewers like fun, drama, theatre, lies, sex, scandal, rip offs...... they know viewers like lies with an exhilarated show rather than truth with a boring show, I mean who would want to watch Open University programmes at 20:00! As for rip offs, as long as everyone is doing it, they cannot all be wrong! I mean with regard to flouting the competition rules, these people knew full well the rules, and it was not just a few people but thousands of them, since virtually every one in UK grew up with the Beano, Dandy, Cadbury choc competitions and surely they have read all those competition rules on sweet wrappers, crisps packets, cereal packets, detergent competitions, ...lottery tickets rules, local raffles... my God, if these editors did not know the rules.. impossible as editor and broadcast people are men of letters.
#15
splender
In truth many clever and smart public relations or so called communications officers are experts in mind psychology... in reality people like advertising and the "dreams" rather than reality, viewers like exciting and manipulated reality show, any honest programming rarely draw huge viewing audience. These smart people know people like a good show and drama. They know viewers like fun, drama, theatre, lies, sex, scandal, rip offs...... they know viewers like lies with an exhilarated show rather than truth with a boring show, I mean who would want to watch Open University programmes at 20:00! As for rip offs, as long as everyone is doing it, they cannot all be wrong! I mean with regard to flouting the competition rules, these people knew full well the rules, and it was not just a few people but thousands of them, since virtually every one in UK grew up with the Beano, Dandy, Cadbury choc competitions and surely they have read all those competition rules on sweet wrappers, crisps packets, cereal packets, detergent competitions, ...lottery tickets rules, local raffles... my God, if these editors did not know the rules.. impossible as editor and broadcast people are men of letters.



the point i made about the BBC is WE PAY FOR IT, why the hell should be put up with them ripping people off left right and centre in more ways than one?

i believe that all premium rate phone channels shouldnt be allowed but if i starting pointing fingers at every program and channel i would be here all day

the fact is the article was about the bbc which most of my comments were in relation to. i also added what had happened with my mum as this was an example of Ofcom not giving a **** and not even replying. OAFCOM are useless (spelling mistake on purpose)
#16
superhot
BT set credit limits per customer and let hers go far beyond this - or are you not aware of this?


I was not aware of that, i apologise :friends:
#17
peodude
I was not aware of that, i apologise :friends:


no problem. :thumbsup:

if you wish to find your own out for yourself it should be in your user agreement or you can phone BT and ask

i do apologise for the rant earlier - it is obviously not directed at anyone here but at the big guns who rip us all of.
#18
superhot
the point i made about the BBC is WE PAY FOR IT, why the hell should be put up with them ripping people off left right and centre in more ways than one?

i believe that all premium rate phone channels shouldnt be allowed but if i starting pointing fingers at every program and channel i would be here all day

the fact is the article was about the bbc which most of my comments were in relation to. i also added what had happened with my mum as this was an example of Ofcom not giving a **** and not even replying. OAFCOM are useless (spelling mistake on purpose)
The BBC as an institution does not rip off people. They have no mandate or corporate governance to rip off people. However what they did not have is business control and audit control. Above all they had lawyers and the head of legal who failed in a huge way to monitor for legal compliance. These people are paid £100,000 a year in salary and it is their job to ensure that the BBC complies with all legal requirements: health and safety, broadcasting acts, child protection,... and of course competition rules and gambling laws. They also failed in a massive way to organise education to educate the people on the legal compliance. Moreover they also failed to have the business control in place to ensure that the employees and read and understood the legal requirements. Moreover the employees failed in their whistle-blowing responsibility. Every child in England & Wales grow up with sweet, crisp , cereal packets... etc full of competition rules printed on them. They knew they were wrong and none of them reported the matter to the police. It is not the BBC, it is the people in it who are responsible and who had a duty to whistle blow anonymously. And as for the senior production managers, operational managers and executives. They knew the programming operations very well, they know hew productions are made, they knew how the business work, scheduling and recorded programmes and live programmes.. they knew millions are viewers never had a chance forking the money out!

Lastly, it is the senior staff who set the performance targets , audience figures, incentive schemes, bonus shares, .... once you are in this high power business game and millions of £'s of bonus ... there is no listen ear and no patience to those who make the business revenue target stand still and stop revenue earning opportunity... anyone who mentions business control, legal compliance... are regarded as doomsday merchants and show stoppers.
#19
and your point in quoting me without making a comment was????
#20
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#21
lol ownt
#22
my underlying issue in writing this article had nothing to do with regards to the fraud the BBC has been found guilty of but the 'relief' programmes that the majority of the public buy's into thinking it is going to reach the needy but it is a stunt for the BBC to raise enough money to fund the tat such as the show they have been found guilty of rule breaking in. I also found it interesting how this came up in the 'entertainment' section -it was on the main news page also- considering that the BBC is eager enough to steal money at all would suggest to me that all their charity shows are used to raise money for themselves and they are in fact thieves employed by the queen.

i myself have always donated to respectable charities but there must be people on here that have donated to 'comic relief' or 'sport relief' , how do you feel about the fact that your money has been stolen and not given to the people they promised the viewers they would donate to ?

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