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BBC and TV LICENSING caught in Daily Mail undercover interview

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https://youtu.be/g2jVgO-Id2U Time to end the harassment and bullying. Nothing but bully boy sales tactics by corporations driven by greed. Nice to hear the magistrates are friendly to TVL, just … Read More
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2m, 4w agoPosted 2 months, 4 weeks ago
https://youtu.be/g2jVgO-Id2U

Time to end the harassment and bullying. Nothing but bully boy sales tactics by corporations driven by greed.

Nice to hear the magistrates are friendly to TVL, just thank God they're not impartial and consider all the evidence including fraudulently signed documents.
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ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?

Entertainment..
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miles136
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
ppl on here r too thick to understand the value of the BBC on every level

Value is a fleeting, fast-moving and subjective term. To apply it to entertainment and information is incredibly loaded.

From my entirely subjective point of view, but trying to be somewhat rational about it - I'd say that the BBC did at one time, pre-internet, provide decent value. Although I wouldn't argue that that value could be enough to justify a regressive taxation and enforcement.

These days however. I just can't see any justification for a regressive tax on this. It's an absurd throwback. Programming is absolute mind-numbingly bad too. Personally I can't even watch the popular stuff like Doctor Who. Sherlock. Even BBC's best programming can't compete with a decent novel and definitely can't compete with cycling. Saw a bit of the Planet Earth. Nice footage, but again woeful in how out of touch it was. All that money and effort - could have went into providing a decent narrative about our place among it all and the current issues that urgently need addressed. None of that though. Just here's some pretty picture and few wikipedia factoids. Mind-numbing stuff.

How people have the time for the BBC and want to pay for it.. in 2017.. Blows my mind really.

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I have to type this once a day recently apparently:

Just stop watching television.
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ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:

Just stop watching television.

Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
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thewongwing101
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It's not broken.
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Oneday77
thewongwing101
https://66.media.tumblr.com/9e016ce3fa774c4cde70cd0ff60ce1c8/tumblr_npi37bXoip1rv62h7o1_500.gif
It's not broken.
You don't feel we need a new one one ? already

Edited By: thewongwing101 on Feb 26, 2017 23:58: e
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thewongwing101
Oneday77
thewongwing101
https://66.media.tumblr.com/9e016ce3fa774c4cde70cd0ff60ce1c8/tumblr_npi37bXoip1rv62h7o1_500.gif
It's not broken.
You don't feel we need a new one on ? already
Even with a new tune, we'll get the same dance.
#7
thewongwing101
https://66.media.tumblr.com/9e016ce3fa774c4cde70cd0ff60ce1c8/tumblr_npi37bXoip1rv62h7o1_500.gif

I was expecting the theme to Happy Days which coincidentally you can't watch without paying the BBC.

This however goes deeper than the BBC this is Capita who are frequently caught signing "confessions" that are used in court. This is the private company who feed from the public purse and couldn't live without your money being their profit. Same with SECCA, G4S et al. You know the types of companies the rich invest in.
#8
7 years licence free just close the door in the TVL goons faces. you do not need a licence active resistance to the tv licence on facebook.
#9
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?

Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?
5 Likes #10
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?

Entertainment..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6qkZ9taEc This is one way to deal with them :{
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haritori
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?
Entertainment..


LOL
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ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?
Entertainment..
LOL

Did I say something funny?
#14
haritori
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?
Entertainment..
LOL
Did I say something funny?


Yes, haha.
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ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
haritori
ritchiedrama
I have to type this once a day recently apparently:
Just stop watching television.
Why should people stop watching TV? isnt that victim blaming?
Why do you watch TV? What do you get from it exactly?
Entertainment..
LOL
Did I say something funny?
Yes, haha.

https://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpz81S7usvTIM8w/giphy-downsized-large.gif
#16
This old TV License parlavar again man?. :-(

It's toooo much for just 1 TV Channel man, hmmmmmmmmmm.

They should take tip's from the likes of ITV1 and Channel4, and ..... YEP!.
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I say set targets higher and recruit more staff

God save the BBC
#18
Feel dirty watching that. So scummy. Wrong on so many levels.
#19
miles136
I say set targets higher and recruit more staff
God save the BBC
From itself?
#20
i believe license fee collection is outsourced to capita (or it might be some other firm).

any communication from the license fee body goes straight into my rubbish bin.

my previous communications used to be addressed to `the legal occupant`

my last one was addressed to me personally so presumably they're now accessing the electoral roll - they claim to visit 10,000 properties per week.
3 Likes #21
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.

I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
#22
seb
i believe license fee collection is outsourced to capita (or it might be some other firm).
any communication from the license fee body goes straight into my rubbish bin.
my previous communications used to be addressed to `the legal occupant`
my last one was addressed to me personally so presumably they're now accessing the electoral roll - they claim to visit 10,000 properties per week.

After a couple of letters it will go back to the legal occupier.
1 Like #23
rehydrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6qkZ9taEc This is one way to deal with them :{

The only answer is to make the BBC commercially financed.
They can only follow their own agenda because they know their finances are guaranteed by law.
2 Likes #24
miles136
I say set targets higher and recruit more staff

God save the BBC

God does not have to pay for a TV licence.
Other countries receive the BBC programs for nothing.
#25
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
If the companies didn't advertise on TV, would you stop buying anything ever?
#26
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.

We all have a choice whether we buy what is advertised on TV.

I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about 177.51€ (£150) per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
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stuarthanley
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
If the companies didn't advertise on TV, would you stop buying anything ever?

Nope. And that is just the point. Whatever you buy you are feeding someone's TV advertising budget - and hence commercial TV - whether or not you even have a TV. At lease with a TV licence based system, you have the choice to eschew TV and say "I don't have a TV, go swivel"
#28
Fluffykins
stuarthanley
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
If the companies didn't advertise on TV, would you stop buying anything ever?
Nope. And that is just the point. Whatever you buy you are feeding someone's TV advertising budget - and hence commercial TV - whether or not you even have a TV. At lease with a TV licence based system, you have the choice to eschew TV and say "I don't have a TV, go swivel"
I've got 3 TVs and haven't had a licence in over 12 months. Plenty of other options to view programmes nowadays.
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stuarthanley
Fluffykins
stuarthanley
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
If the companies didn't advertise on TV, would you stop buying anything ever?
Nope. And that is just the point. Whatever you buy you are feeding someone's TV advertising budget - and hence commercial TV - whether or not you even have a TV. At lease with a TV licence based system, you have the choice to eschew TV and say "I don't have a TV, go swivel"
I've got 3 TVs and haven't had a licence in over 12 months. Plenty of other options to view programmes nowadays.

You are still paying for commercial TV
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landros1
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
We all have a choice whether we buy what is advertised on TV.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about 177.51€ (177.51€ (£150)) per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.

It is not a licence it is an unavoidable tax for owning/watching a TV.
We all have a choice if we buy whatever is advertised but you do not have a choice if you watch (or are capable of watching) TV.
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If you watch it pay for it if you don't then don't pay it. I only watch a tiny bit and pay up but that's probably going to change soon so won't be paying in the future.
Simplest solution would be to broadcast on the Sky satellite solely and encrypt it.
#32
seb
i believe license fee collection is outsourced to capita (or it might be some other firm).
any communication from the license fee body goes straight into my rubbish bin.
my previous communications used to be addressed to `the legal occupant`
my last one was addressed to me personally so presumably they're now accessing the electoral roll - they claim to visit 10,000 properties per week.

when they get you I think you should be tared fethered and tied to a collenade on the town hall steps
#33
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.

I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.

ppl on here r too thick to understand the value of the BBC on every level
#34
landros1
miles136
I say set targets higher and recruit more staff

God save the BBC
God does not have to pay for a TV licence.
Other countries receive the BBC programs for nothing.

no they do not, they have to watch advertising or pay a subscription
#35
landros1
landros1
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
We all have a choice whether we buy what is advertised on TV.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about 177.51€ (177.51€ (£150)) per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
It is not a licence it is an unavoidable tax for owning/watching a TV.
We all have a choice if we buy whatever is advertised but you do not have a choice if you watch (or are capable of watching) TV.

nope what ever you buy will contribute to the advertising budget of that product regardless of wether you use the media the advertising cost is used to subsidise, TV, newspapers, web sites,

OMG ppl really do not know how the world works and what fantastic value the BBC is
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The more bad publicity the " Unique Way " the Bloated Broadcasting Corporation is funded the better and finally some government will realise how unfair and dated it is . Hopefully this will be another nail in the BBC's coffin and the so called TV Licence will be abolished whereupon they can fund themselves and there will be fairer competition amongst the TV companies .The rotten lot at the BBC have gotten way to big for their boots and the sooner they are brought down to earth the better for everyone .
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miles136
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
ppl on here r too thick to understand the value of the BBC on every level
And yet you've never made a positive argument in its defense.
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miles136
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about £150 per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
ppl on here r too thick to understand the value of the BBC on every level

Value is a fleeting, fast-moving and subjective term. To apply it to entertainment and information is incredibly loaded.

From my entirely subjective point of view, but trying to be somewhat rational about it - I'd say that the BBC did at one time, pre-internet, provide decent value. Although I wouldn't argue that that value could be enough to justify a regressive taxation and enforcement.

These days however. I just can't see any justification for a regressive tax on this. It's an absurd throwback. Programming is absolute mind-numbingly bad too. Personally I can't even watch the popular stuff like Doctor Who. Sherlock. Even BBC's best programming can't compete with a decent novel and definitely can't compete with cycling. Saw a bit of the Planet Earth. Nice footage, but again woeful in how out of touch it was. All that money and effort - could have went into providing a decent narrative about our place among it all and the current issues that urgently need addressed. None of that though. Just here's some pretty picture and few wikipedia factoids. Mind-numbing stuff.

How people have the time for the BBC and want to pay for it.. in 2017.. Blows my mind really.
#39
miles136
landros1
landros1
Fluffykins
Well, if you think the TV licence is unfair, what about commercial TV? It's a little simplistic but, sooner or later down the food chain (ad chain?), the people actually paying for the TV ads is us, either by buying from the company being advertised and consequently contributing to their advertising budget, or from one of their suppliers - direct or indirect. You get the idea.
We all have a choice whether we buy what is advertised on TV.
I don't recall the figures exactly, but last time I did this out of curiosity, the UK annual TV advertising revenue, divided by the number of UK households meant that commercial TV costs about 177.51€ (177.51€ (£150)) per year per household - irrespective of whether or not they had a TV, pensioners, families, the lot.
It is not a licence it is an unavoidable tax for owning/watching a TV.
We all have a choice if we buy whatever is advertised but you do not have a choice if you watch (or are capable of watching) TV.
nope what ever you buy will contribute to the advertising budget of that product regardless of wether you use the media the advertising cost is used to subsidise, TV, newspapers, web sites,
OMG ppl really do not know how the world works and what fantastic value the BBC is

I dont think we are disputing the value of the BBC fee, it is a great value for what we get, he programming, educational and entertainment it caters to pretty much everyone..

The issue is around the enforcement of the licence, and the underhanded way it does that..

The whole issue could be resolved for a cost less that it pays capita, the system is already in place they can use an encryption service and your TV licence can be the card they send you to insert into your CAM Slot on 99% of TV's if your TV doesn't have a CAM slot then a very cheap freeview box could be provided, Sky & Virgin can encrypt the channels and by proving your subscription details you can unlock them on those formats, the iPlayer can use login details provided with your licence so no one without details can access it.

but by doing this BBC know they would lose millions of viewers so they pay more to ensure more revenue from crooked capita agents..

top it off with no regulation authority monitoring the BBC it answers only to the Trust which is itself!! its crazy..

the value is amazing, the way its run is underhanded.
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Not good value at all.

"£18 billion
The amount expected to be collected by TV licensing from 2016 to 2021"
And that is before they sell you, your own content back (havent u already paid for its creation!) on dvd and blurays.

And they then sell them worldwide. Along with magazines and radio program advertising revenue (they have adverts when broadcast outside the uk? I guess!), that should double this figure to 30 billion! And it doesnt show in the programs, I cant see where all the moneys going, I guess a lot goes up the wall overpaying for anything and everything on that, blank cheque book they wield, on our behalf.

And another big chunk on bureaucracy, and brown envelopes stuffed with money to high up, individuals to ensure the BBC continues to forever exist! We will never be free of this unfair tax, Theirs too much at stake, for those many pigs who have theyr snouts in the trough.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2pyp75i.jpg

P.S
A free licence for over 75 is mean, it should be 65 and over, tight sods!

Edited By: Moonwolf1976 on Feb 28, 2017 11:00

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