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Been fined for having tinted glass on my car

skyangel Avatar
8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
Ive been fined for having tinted glass on my car which I brought from a dealer.
Why is it ok that my car can pass a mot if im breaking the law?
,Why can car dealers sell the car without telling me I could/would be breaking the law?. Why is it that the police can fine us and not the car companys selling us the car?.
Why can VIP people drive around and not be fined or get points????
Did you know if you have an accidient when driving your car and the police see you are wearing sunglasses you will be fined/points on your licience!!!!
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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
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#1
So your not ment to wear sunglasses? Sorry officer I hit the car in front cause I had the sun in my eyes but it could have been avoided if I was wearing my sunglasses.

There is a forum on it

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/octavia-ii/window-tinting-laws/79121/
#2
Which part or parts of the car are tinted?
How old is the car?
#3
Go back to the dealer and tell him what has happened and tell him that if he does not take care of the expense of the fine you will report him ot take him to court for selling a car that is illegal to drive.
#4
the front side windows and front windscreen can not be tinted more than 5% i think it is. how dark is your tint and what windows were pointed out to you?
#5
oh my god you cant wear shades......:x
#6
It is legal to use tinted windows if the front window screen and side windows lets at least 70% light through. I'm guessing yours is less than that which is why you got fined? If it isn't then you need to challenge the fine!
#7
spriggan is totally right, i have my rear window and both sides in limo black which is you cant see in at all, i did this for security as i put screens into the headrests for my son, and i checked before hand as to the legality of the front windows, i decided not to have them done at all just to be safe even in a much lower tint as the fitters could not guarantee the original tint in the glass itself would not cause it to go over 70% light influx

i agree go back to the garage and if you get no joy approach trading standards
#8
Why can car dealers sell the car without telling me I could/would be breaking the law?


They can't. They're committing an offence under section 75/76 of the RTA.

For further info on tinting : http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/Tinted%20Windows%20Nov%202005.pdf#xml=http://www.vosa.gov.uk/SCRIPTS/texis.exe/webinator/search/xml.txt?query=Tinting&pr=CORP&order=r&cq=&id=467611e47
#9
At least they didn't throw you in a Soft Cell for Tinted Love...
#10
I passed my driving test wearing sunglasses, so if it was illegal surely i wouldn't have passed:?
#11
Think car is about 4-5 yrs old. Tint at back is darker than the front but its just like wearing sunglasses. He even said oh not as bad as i thought!
If I have broken the law why is it that your car with tints can pass the MOT.
I have paid the fine but think the law is up and down and its the easy targets who have to pay the price.
Totally shocked when he said about wearing sunglasses!!!!
#12

The link from Shengis says:
Motor Vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1985:
The light transmitted through the windscreen must be at least 75%.
The front side windows must allow at least 70% of light to be transmitted through them.
VOSA staff throughout the country have been issued with testing equipment. If the equipment is not available, a subjective assessment will be carried out.

How was your tinting assessed?
#13
Did he have a torch and a flux/light meter?
#14
skyangel
Think car is about 4-5 yrs old. Tint at back is darker than the front but its just like wearing sunglasses. He even said oh not as bad as i thought!
If I have broken the law why is it that your car with tints can pass the MOT.
I have paid the fine but think the law is up and down and its the easy targets who have to pay the price.
Totally shocked when he said about wearing sunglasses!!!!


MOT's do not cover all legal requirements for a motor vehicle. It covers the main areas that make the vehicle road safe. :)
#15
Murielson
Did he have a torch and a flux/light meter?


Not needed..they usually use a device called a tintman that measures the amount of light passing throught the window. However if this is not available then a subjective test will be done...commin sense in other words..:)
#16
skyangel
Totally shocked when he said about wearing sunglasses!!!!


Not surprised, seeing as he was pulling your leg :lol:
#17
Skyangel,
How did the police officer measure the light coming through the tint? Police arent given light meters as a rule. So this would be very hard to prove in court. I am a response officer and have never heard this rule about sunglasses. Again, how would the police officer measure the light coming through them? We have to evidence things to get home with a conviction. The onus of proof in Criminal law is beyond all reasonable doubt, as opposed to civil law which is on the balance of probabilities, point is. The officer will have to prove the offence to get home with a conviction. An assumption that it is illegal is not enough. The onus of proof is on the CPS and the police.
it is a pity you have paid the fine, it would have been worth challenging it in court. I would recommend a letter particularly if you have, or know anyone who has a light meter.
Good luck
banned#18
To be honest, I would still challenge it. What happens when SkyAngel bumps into this policeman again tomorow? (I'm assuming the car's glass hasnt been changed!) And I would certainly challenge his comment about wearing sunglasses. I certainly see policemen wearing them while driving. Nothing wrong in that - I would think it makes driving safer when there is a danger of sun glare!

Maybe the policeman should move to an area that has real crimes being committed? And people wonder why the police get a poor reputation!
#19
Seems like if you go to the dark side you will feel the force :-D
#20
My mate was done for the same offence however the cops had a light meter, and he also had to have the glass changed and provide proof at his local police station from an m.o.t approved garage that this was done, so unless a light meter was used I wouldn't be having any of it.

And he was taking the p**s further with the sunglasses:whistling:
#21
MBeeching
At least they didn't throw you in a Soft Cell for Tinted Love...


no...no...no....and again no...you should be locked up for that....honestly that was bad:thumbsup:
#22
bogeyman
Seems like if you go to the dark side you will feel the force :-D


LMAO
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Did they say that you had to remove the tints ? was it just for the front ones ?

If he didnt pay the fine and went to court could the court have charged him more if they found him guilty ?

How would the police evidence it, wouldnt the court just take the word of the police man? fine you & make you pay court costs ?
banned#23
Personally I feel its about time they started cracking down on this, but shame you got done when it was the garage who sold you the car in this state.
#24
At the end of the day, it's upto you to know the legalities of tinted windows. As a general rule, your car lets in just above the legal limit of light on the front windows from the factory (most newer cars these days have a slight factory tint).

You can have the rear window & both rears done as dark as you like.

You cannot touch the two front side windows, and your windscreen can have a small sun strip at the top, nothing else (google the exact measurement).


As it's only a fine & not points, I'd get the garage to pay it (or at least go and see the sales manager) - and if you haven't already - remove the tints !!
banned#25
ADZ1478;1572989
Skyangel,
How did the police officer measure the light coming through the tint? Police arent given light meters as a rule. So this would be very hard to prove in court. I am a response officer and have never heard this rule about sunglasses. Again, how would the police officer measure the light coming through them? We have to evidence things to get home with a conviction. The onus of proof in Criminal law is beyond all reasonable doubt, as opposed to civil law which is on the balance of probabilities, point is. The officer will have to prove the offence to get home with a conviction. An assumption that it is illegal is not enough. The onus of proof is on the CPS and the police.
it is a pity you have paid the fine, it would have been worth challenging it in court. I would recommend a letter particularly if you have, or know anyone who has a light meter.
Good luck



for your info .. Road Policing Units are given light meters( Tintmaster), I doubt local response officers would ever get to use them too busy with other stuff.
We have and use something called tintmaster and its also used by VOSA. The officers are trained and certificated in the use of the meter as are vosa, so feel free to challenge it in court as if its one of the tint master machines your on a hiding to nothing.
banned#26
guv;1573164
To be honest, I would still challenge it. What happens when SkyAngel bumps into this policeman again tomorow? (I'm assuming the car's glass hasnt been changed!) And I would certainly challenge his comment about wearing sunglasses. I certainly see policemen wearing them while driving. Nothing wrong in that - I would think it makes driving safer when there is a danger of sun glare!

Maybe the policeman should move to an area that has real crimes being committed? And people wonder why the police get a poor reputation!

Also road safety is a priority :roll:
#27
Police officer just looked at tint through side passenger window. He then placed my written fine behind the glass tint and took a photo. He mentioned he was traffic police been in the job 22 years , dont bother arguing case knew what he was doing. Said tint at front not as bad as he thought so being kind!!!!! would fine me but would not do points on my licence. Said if in a month he sees car again with tints would fine and give me points etc.
What really annoyed me aswell was the fact he overtook three cars down a very busy narrow street to pull me over! I pulled over while driving thinking he wanted to pass me for a real emergency he had flashing lights etc on.
He was the driver in the police car, his partner looked like he was catching up on paperwork , partner did not get out of car.
How I was pulled over and how other accidents could of been a result of it amazes me.

If it happens again, do think mr jobs worth will be on the look out for me. What will be the costs of going to court etc. If he does not have the light meter to measure the tint where do i stand???

Thank you for all the messages
banned#28
skyangel


If it happens again, do think mr jobs worth will be on the look out for me. What will be the costs of going to court etc. If he does not have the light meter to measure the tint where do i stand???

Thank you for all the messages


that's nothing, I cycled through a town centre with no lights on my bike once. A police car almost knocked me off my bike going into a pedestrianised zone the wrong way (I know I shouldn't have been there either) but he then proceeded to give chase (I didn't know he was coming after me) while informing two other squad cars to head me off at the pass....he mounted the curb in front of me, I had to swerve to miss him almost knocking me off my bike. I cycle quite fast madness I say... though I have learnt my lesson since last time I cycled on the pavement I cycled straight into a fastrax tractor that pulled out of a hedge row breaking my collar bone and flying 7 foot into the middle of the road.

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