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Is being morbidly obese a mental illness?

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I read a terrible story in the paper today that "an obese mother who carried on eating too much after gastric bypass surgery suffocated on food which couldn't fit into her stomach". Surely being in such a state is a mental issue?

So should being morbidly obese be classed as a mental disorder or do you believe it's purely not having enough physical restraint? Or perhaps obesity is the byproduct of an unrelated mental health issue and not the cause? Thoughts?

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    ei8hty5ive
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!

    Edited By: momartin on Jun 16, 2012 08:34
    danboi63
    It's a range of factors, but in some instances yes I do think it is a mental illness!
    WheresMeNuts
    People on HUKD's will tell you it's not an illness & just greed.They say this because they believe if a doctor says so then that's that.
    Many illnesses go unnoticed & can not always be diagnosed.
    splatsplatsplat
    I could drown in a bucket of kfc. hmmmmmmmmm
    donaldduck2
    Food can be addictive just like cigarettes, drugs, sex, alcohol, and video games. I think educating children at school about healthy eating would be a positive step. Also set up boot camps where people can voluntarily go for 6 months to be beasted into a fitness and healthy eating regime.
    emmalampkin
    Yes food is addictive but like smoking etc, with willpower you can stop eating crap.
    So no it isn't an illness in my opinion.
    shauneco
    I can eat anything I want and don't put weight on, My ex only had to look at a cake, everyone is different.
    littlepinkstarz
    emmalampkin
    Yes food is addictive but like smoking etc, with willpower you can stop eating crap.
    So no it isn't an illness in my opinion.


    But using that example some people cant quit smoking alone and need aids to help them. The same goes for being overweight, maybe it would be more resourceful if people where educated properly on healthy eating, nutrition and exercise then it would some people, rather then people going to the doctor asking for help and being given weight loss pills and put on their merry way. And for people that use food for an emotional attachment to give them psychological help so that they can cope with their issues in different ways.
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    splatsplatsplat
    I could drown in a bucket of kfc. hmmmmmmmmm


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    moose109
    People say to my face what they feel about me having to walk with crutches, so my message to fatties (because even they join in the insults, so only fair I fire them back) is quite simple.

    GET YOUR HAND OUT OF THE BISCUIT TIN AND GET ON THE TREADMILL YOU FAT WASTE OF SPACE!

    And breathe...
    Shengis
    moose109
    People say to my face what they feel about me having to walk with crutches, so my message to fatties (because even they join in the insults, so only fair I fire them back) is quite simple.

    GET YOUR HAND OUT OF THE BISCUIT TIN AND GET ON THE TREADMILL YOU FAT WASTE OF SPACE!

    And breathe...

    Are you Jimmy?
    Ennui
    Yes, I completely believe it is in large part a mental deficiency. I wouldn't restrict it to the "morbidly" obese, and neither would I call it simply a mental illness.

    This discussion has been had a couple of times on here recently due to the obese being a target for some of the bullies on here.

    It makes no sense whatsoever that anybody would want to look like that given the sexual and social ostracism it results in unless you consider them having a warped mental perspective in some way.
    Ennui
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!
    Genetics being to blame is not inconsistent with mental deficiency. Of course, "everybody's different", but I would like somebody to explain the "metabolism" excuse to me - I only have a layman's understanding of physics, but I do know you cannot create matter out of nothing, which is what the metabolism reasoning seems to imply.

    In my experience, people who say stuff like "metabolism" and "thyroids" and what have you, are normally the ones with the biggest plates at the dinner table. This is also consistent with the lack of self-control that comes with a mental issue.
    Ennui
    ps. It being a mental deficiency should not be used as an excuse - but you cannot treat an illness properly till you have diagnosed it.

    Simply telling somebody to "eat less, move more" is technically correct; but if a person has a mental affliction that warps their perspective of what "less" and "more" are, or even blinds them to it, that person needs help and tools to overcome their problems.
    numptyj
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!


    Lol b.s

    You eat too much, serious.

    Calories in vs calories out is what it boils down to.
    Ennui
    numptyj
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!


    Lol b.s

    You eat too much, serious.

    Calories in vs calories out is what it boils down to.
    No, its not what it boils down to as I said directly above. You've posted an easy put down without any attempt to take on the argument.
    numptyj
    Ennui
    numptyj
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!


    Lol b.s

    You eat too much, serious.

    Calories in vs calories out is what it boils down to.
    No, its not what it boils down to as I said directly above. You've posted an easy put down without any attempt to take on the argument.


    I've offered the solution to weight loss. No one says it's easy you've got to have strong self discipline.

    Of course from someone morbidly obese who is eating most likely well over 5000 calories a day it will be difficult but restricting their calories will make them lose weight.

    There is no mental perception of calories, they are factual entities. E.g A standard choc bar is 250 cals but if someone morbidly obese eats 5 in one go compared to a person who is a 'normal' weight then that is a case of the either being weak minded or uneducated of what calories there are in foods.


    That probably doesn't answer your point and strays from the topic but meh lol

    Edited By: numptyj on Jun 16, 2012 17:20
    Ennui
    numptyj
    Ennui
    numptyj
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!


    Lol b.s

    You eat too much, serious.

    Calories in vs calories out is what it boils down to.
    No, its not what it boils down to as I said directly above. You've posted an easy put down without any attempt to take on the argument.
    I've offered the solution to weight loss. No one says it's easy you've got to have strong self discipline.

    Of course from someone morbidly obese who is eating most likely well over 5000 calories a day it will be difficult but restricting their calories will make them lose weight.

    There is no mental perception of calories, they are factual entities. E.g A standard choc bar is 250 cals but if someone morbidly obese eats 5 in one go compared to a person who is a 'normal' weight then that is a case of the either being weak minded or uneducated of what calories there are in foods.

    That probably doesn't answer your point and strays from the topic but meh lol
    It doesn't stray from the point, and is a better answer than your previous post (thank you), but it is confused, in that it contradicts itself.

    "Weak minded" vs. "There is no mental perception of calories" (which is wrong btw - perception is entirely mental, and everything is filtered by our perception of it).

    Your first post also just replicated others points (including mine) without adding anything new. That in itself indicates a lack of self-discipline, the urge to be heard (which no doubt I and most others on here suffer from), but it puts you in a weak position when noting others' lack of self control.

    The thing is, you correctly say that those excuses are excuses, but you do not offer an argument either way that deals with the extremes of the behaviour.

    You just say it requires more self-discipline. Self discipline is a mental characteristic. What if you haven't got it? What if there are other mental characteristics that contribute. What if you haven't got them?

    The obvious answer is to develop them - the whole point of the "mental deficiency" argument is to identify weaknesses and remove them; simply looking down on people doesn't help in any way.

    Edited By: Ennui on Jun 16, 2012 17:52: ...
    Ennui
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    Ennui
    numptyj
    momartin
    I know some people have a disorder but for me I've always been a big girl. I was under dieticians and specialists as a child who could honestly find nothing wrong with me! I have 2 skinny sisters and we were all raised the same and ate the same. I'm not a blob, more of a large athletic build but am morbidly obese on paper. I exercise and eat healthily. Sometimes genetics and metabolism are to blame!


    Lol b.s

    You eat too much, serious.

    Calories in vs calories out is what it boils down to.
    No, its not what it boils down to as I said directly above. You've posted an easy put down without any attempt to take on the argument.

    By your explanations the woman can eat only her own crap, add a few vitamins and survive for life.
    I don't understand your point. My understanding of the solution for losing weight is "eat less, move more" for normal people and help obese people "eat less, move more". I suppose "eat healthily, move healthily" is more accurate; I still don't get the meaning of the joke.


    Edited By: Ennui on Jun 16, 2012 17:50

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