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Belfast Riots - Video Footage

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6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
Shocking footage of these idiots.
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6y, 4m agoPosted 6 years, 4 months ago
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#2
dont see why the police cant return fire or at least use their batons - big enough to throw a petrol bomb then they are big enough to get shot.
although then you get the mothers (if they can pass for that) claiming that little seamus was only out getting a pint of milk
banned#3
#4
shocking images

just watched this, the PSNI released it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10614147

they all need locked up
banned#5
do most of these people even know why they are rioting or is it just a laugh?

couple of scroats when asked why they were rioting said "theres nothing else to do around here"

strong motive to destroy the neighbourhood then lol
#6
just something for the wee buggers to do and get away with! they have no idea why they are meant to be upset - but obviously their parents are happy to let them go out and riot. Think thats where the problem lies......uneducated idiots who have no idea and should have not been allowed to keep their kids let alone have one to begin with
although the idiots just wreck their own area and steal cars from their own area - only hurt themselves really.
#7
Hundreds of police and many armed police go after one man.

But when there is 1000 people with scaffoldingnd petrol bombs attacking a big number of police, you use water cannons.

lol ok.
1 Like #8
There was a thread on this yesterday and luckily it was pulled as there was some shocking comments, comments bad enough that I would happily stand with the rioters than the people that posted them. Comments from people who do not have the first notion about Northern Ireland.

I do not agree with violence on pretty much any level, I also do not agree with the madness of letting a twelfth parade march through a Nationalist area.

If the shoe was on the other foot would you be happy with the other side marching up your street? If the Germans did win the war and they celebrated every year marching through your area, would you go out and protest? I am not using this as an excuse for the violence, just asking the question.

I honestly do hope that the injured police women recovers fully, and any other police injured, or any innocent people hurt in general.
#9
for one day a year i really dont see the problem especially seeing as they have marched for quite a while - its not as if they have just recently decided to start just to annoy people (although some of the marchers dont understand why it is they march).........not forgetting the ardoyne area used to be mainly protestant.........and if the germans had of won the war and you did go out and protest you would likely to have been shot! as no one used to go against the nazis of course.
#10
For their one day a year why don't they reroute it away from nationalist areas so they can have a peaceful day to themselves. The argument that it used to be a mostly protestant area is irrelevant, it is now nationalist.

If an orange parade is going to march through a catholic area then it is certain that there will be tension/Rioting, it is just a fact.

Rerouting the march is a much more realistic proposition that asking every Protester/rioter to stay at home, whether you agree with it or not.

Luckily the Police did not use any kind of force like you hinted towards in your first post.
#11
sparkyIreland
Luckily the Police did not use any kind of force like you hinted towards in your first post.


If someone is trying to ram a piece of metal into me, I'd really love to shoot their face off.
#12
fair point

you think that if the parade was rerouted they still wouldn't riot?
or do you think that a peaceful parade through a catholic area has to be protested by with a riot? or is that just indicative of the local population and their stupidity?

personally it makes no odds to me where they march, I couldn't care less, the fact a reasonable per cent of them dont know why they march other than the reason that it annoys other communities is an argument for that. However to some of the genuine people the fact that they have marched that particular route for maybe 50 or 60 years means something to them and is it really that big an issue for them to peacefully walk through for a couple of hours one day a year?

so your suggesting that just let the people riot, throw petrol bombs at the police, attack the police, shoot at the police and cause criminal damage instead of using reasonable force to stop them? The helicopter footage sickens me to the bone that the police are powerless to do anything - just take the abuse and do nothing otherwise little jimmy's mother will sue the hell out of the local authorities - doesn't seem like the police has to much power there does it?
#13
I couldn't give a monkeys why they march, where they march and all that goes with the religion side but to watch these mindless yobs, loads of kids and grown ups acting like this is incredible but not surprising unfortunately.

Someone will be killed sooner or later looking at thoses videos and if it is one of the thugs then all hell will let loose no doubt.
banned#14
Spammed for being a dupe.
banned#15
sparkyIreland
There was a thread on this yesterday and luckily it was pulled as there was some shocking comments, comments bad enough that I would happily stand with the rioters than the people that posted them. Comments from people who do not have the first notion about Northern Ireland.


it's nothing to do with ireland as already stated when they were interviewed they said they have nothing better to do! Rioting for rioting sakes.
#16
sparkyIreland
There was a thread on this yesterday and luckily it was pulled as there was some shocking comments, comments bad enough that I would happily stand with the rioters than the people that posted them. Comments from people who do not have the first notion about Northern Ireland.

This absolutely.

posters where condemning the rioting with no idea what brought it on,while at the same time suggesting gunning down the crowd.

Some people should try reading or thinking for themselves for a change rather than being lead by the nose with highly edited TV footage!
banned#17
Plum
sparkyIreland
There was a thread on this yesterday and luckily it was pulled as there was some shocking comments, comments bad enough that I would happily stand with the rioters than the people that posted them. Comments from people who do not have the first notion about Northern Ireland.


This absolutely.

posters where condemning the rioting with no idea what brought it on,while at the same time suggesting gunning down the crowd.

Some people should try reading or thinking for themselves for a change rather than being lead by the nose with highly edited TV footage!


plum to be faIr half the riots and protests we see have their reasons, condoning that sort of behaviour isnt on, no matter what the reasons, i hate violence and hate seeing it, and dont condone it for any reason and as far knowing the background, half those there dont know what they are rioting for, well apart from boredom
#18
Plum, highly edited TV footage is a bit of a silly comment,
Its not as if the police have went in and started the riot, and its not as if the video has been stuck together to make it look worse than it is.
It is what it is at the end of the day and that is hooligans rioting for the sake of it - daft comment on your part
#19
I am not informed on this subject and freely admit that maybe I should do some reading. But from other instances of unrest in alternative situations ... there are often a series of events that cause an explosion of violence. Yes; there are always some that get drawn into situations, but sometimes events are manipulated to cause something to occur. Which came first? I dont know. As I said I will need to read a bit.
#20
sassie
plum to be faIr half the riots and protests we see have their reasons, condoning that sort of behaviour isnt on, no matter what the reasons, i hate violence and hate seeing it, and dont condone it for any reason and as far knowing the background, half those there dont know what they are rioting for, well apart from boredom


I do not doubt that some of the people involved in these riots have very Little political reasons. However the majority are fighting to protect their communities from what they see as violent, threatening and degrading marches through their estates.

When they find the police are used to break up peaceful sit-down protests they do fightback in the only way they can think of.

I would want to see these marches rerouted away from Catholic estates and an end to violence on all sides.
banned#21
andymack
Plum, highly edited TV footage is a bit of a silly comment,Its not as if the police have went in and started the riot, and its not as if the video has been stuck together to make it look worse than it is.It is what it is at the end of the day and that is hooligans rioting for the sake of it - daft comment on your part

The footage isn't edited or stuck together to make things worse but the comments will be. Anyone who lives in that area will know about the troubles and marches so the majority of them will be doing it for their own reasons so don't make it out that everyone is riotting for the sake of it.

The Orange Order would be doing exactly the same thing if the police denied them access to march down that street and have even threatened numberous events over the years with violence if they were to proceed on the 12th as its a day of rest in their eyes.

Although I don't believe in violance like this in any way I can understand why they do it. It's basically like a black community having a KKK march going right down its street as its a catholic street and the Orange Order is anti-catholic.

An awful lot of people who support the orange order haven't got a clue about its or the troubles history along with the majority of posters about it on here.
#22
Plum
havent seen a violent march in manys a year and have to say neither have i seen any peaceful sit down protests recently - they are rioting because they can get away with it because there is no come back on the wee s**ts - thats it
#23
the orange order is not anti-catholic

and strangely enough they arent allowed to march at drumcree but present a letter every year in a PEACEFUL protest
banned#24
Rioters tend to be in it for the destructive mob mentality, just like football hooligans. It's violent release for small minded individuals with a minimal chance of being caught.
banned#25
andymack
the orange order is not anti-catholic and strangely enough they arent allowed to march at drumcree but present a letter every year in a PEACEFUL protest

You definatly haven't a clue about the orders then. Oh and by the way the BNP are multi-racial!! lol
banned#26
Plum

I do not doubt that some of the people involved in these riots have very Little political reasons. However the majority are fighting to protect their communities from what they see as violent, threatening and degrading marches through their estates.

When they find the police are used to break up peaceful sit-down protests they do fightback in the only way they can think of.

I would want to see these marches rerouted away from Catholic estates and an end to violence on all sides.


again, you cannot use violence to fight violence, you either condone it and ok it for all, or you dont, no matter what has gone on or is going on, violence like this should never be condoned by anyone, no matter what the reasons
#27
lumoruk

it's nothing to do with ireland as already stated when they were interviewed they said they have nothing better to do! Rioting for rioting sakes.


It is everything to do with Ireland and its troubles and it is rather unfortunate that those who they interviewed were as dumb as a bag of rocks.

For those that were rioting and didn't know why they were rioting (Unlikely), and those here that want to know why they were rioting then let me tell you.

They were rioting because an orange band was marching through their (Nationalist area), that and a huge police presence is only recipe for disaster. Whether you agree with it or not, this was the reason for the rioting.

No march = no riot.

Don't see this as a way for me justify the violence, I have not once said I think it was a good idea what they done, and I definitely don't think it was a good idea dropping a concrete slab on a police woman's head.

I also have said that I think it is ludicrous for an orange band to march through the middle of a nationalist area.

Rerouting the march is the only way to prevent this, we can talk stupid all day about using helicopters with machine guns and flamethrowers, but lets get real.

The reason why the police were powerless is obvious, if they had of shot and killed someone or hurt someone then that effectively ends the peace process.

Northern Ireland is a mixed up little place at times, and we surely will not work out its troubles on a deal forum, seeing as the leaders of the country cant even agree.

Posting here for me now has become about as useful as a handbrake on a boat, and for that reason I am jumpin ship, goodluck.
#28
sassie
Plum
I do not doubt that some of the people involved in these riots have very Little political reasons. However the majority are fighting to protect their communities from what they see as violent, threatening and degrading marches through their estates.When they find the police are used to break up peaceful sit-down protests they do fightback in the only way they can think of. I would want to see these marches rerouted away from Catholic estates and an end to violence on all sides.
again, you cannot use violence to fight violence, you either condone it and ok it for all, or you dont, no matter what has gone on or is going on, violence like this should never be condoned by anyone, no matter what the reasons

I don't hold with that philosophy. I believe that if you are under attack you have the right to defend yourself. If the attack is violent then the defense will need to be.

However if I was involved in the situation I would be arguing with people to build a larger peaceful protest as I believe it is a much better way to go forward for the community.
banned 1 Like #29
Plum


I don't hold with that philosophy. I believe that if you are under attack you have the right to defend yourself. If the attack is violent then the defense will need to be.

However if I was involved in the situation I would be arguing with people to build a larger peaceful protest as I believe it is a much better way to go forward for the community.


i am sorry plum but we will have to agree to disagree, we are all entitled to our opinions
#30
I cant remember which riot this was, but it was on a cops with cameras episode. Some rioters were dispersed by the police and walked down into a neighbouring council estate, and started smashing car windows. One of the owners came out and kicked the hell out of these idiots. They didnt know what hit them! Classic. Someone give that bloke a gun, medal and knighthood!
banned 1 Like #31
The people of Belfast need to chill out. They have spent the past 20 odd years shouting and screaming and throwing bottles full of fire around the place.

Maybe if they all got some hobbies, they could take up something more constructive other than kicking each other's teeth off and blowing up cars.
#32
splatsplatsplat
I cant remember which riot this was, but it was on a cops with cameras episode. Some rioters were dispersed by the police and walked down into a neighbouring council estate, and started smashing car windows. One of the owners came out and kicked the hell out of these idiots. They didnt know what hit them! Classic. Someone give that bloke a gun, medal and knighthood!


That was on a police camera show a few weeks ago, happened in nottingham when england lost a game. I shat myself with laughter, was so funny.

90% of these hooligans will have no idea why they are rioting, they just join in cos there bored and cos it's against the police. Most will be under 40.
It's exactly the same as the raul moat facebook page, people only joined that cos he shot a copper, if a copper is involved somewhere, people will join in to release frustrations.
#33
DJ1
The people of Belfast need to chill out. They have spent the past 20 odd years shouting and screaming and throwing bottles full of fire around the place.

Maybe if they all got some hobbies, they could take up something more constructive other than kicking each other's teeth off and blowing up cars.


You wanna go say that to 2000 rioting irish drunks?
banned#34
Both sides in the troubles are as bad as each other and its just a shame that after all the progress with the peace talks that riots like this still happen.

And as for the police not retaliating they are probably under orders not to due to previous incidents when they were heavy handed. But it is their job to maintain the peace and order so using violence againist violence is not the answer especially when you see how badly that worked in years past.
#35
faevilangel
DJ1
The people of Belfast need to chill out. They have spent the past 20 odd years shouting and screaming and throwing bottles full of fire around the place.

Maybe if they all got some hobbies, they could take up something more constructive other than kicking each other's teeth off and blowing up cars.


You wanna go say that to 2000 rioting irish drunks?


He never said he would.
#36
Wotwot123
faevilangel
DJ1
The people of Belfast need to chill out. They have spent the past 20 odd years shouting and screaming and throwing bottles full of fire around the place.

Maybe if they all got some hobbies, they could take up something more constructive other than kicking each other's teeth off and blowing up cars.


You wanna go say that to 2000 rioting irish drunks?


He never said he would.


Sarcasm 8) ...
1 Like #37
None of us want this, but it needs to be said that this is not one day a year. I live in a mainly catholic area, it's usually very quiet, but for some reason for the last month the loyalists have came down the cycle path and along the train tracks throwing stones at the houses and coming into our children's play area because these big brave men don't seem to pick on men their own age, but are attacking young boys out playing football.

I have witnessed the behaviour of the bands and their followers as they pass through catholic areas, and it's inflammatory and intimidatory. There is no need for them to march and parade through catholic areas, and their refusal to discuss re-routing of the parades just shows their thuggish mentality. I have been sickened by what I have witnessed this year, and in previous years.

When a march was forcibly rerouted several years ago the loyalists rioted just around the corner from me http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4236208.stm and it was bloody terrifying. Most people here do not want this. It makes me laugh that it's all done under the banner of religion. This is nothing to do with God, and everything to do with uneducated people brought up in communities steeped in hatred without really knowing why.

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