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9y, 11m agoPosted 9 years, 11 months ago
my desktop hard drive has died, and need a new hard drive. So i'd like to buy the best brand there is available.

The one thats 'died' was a western digital (and still is).

So should I go for the same brand or get a seagate or any other you consider to be good?

or maybes a samsung or a hitachi i could pick up from pcworld, so i would be able to use my desktop tomoz otherwise it'll b idle for the next few days.

I don't have a need for a massive hard drive capacity, 80 GB will suffice for my needs, 'ell knows what people do with 300 GB. And paying no more than £45.
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9y, 11m agoPosted 9 years, 11 months ago
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#1
This is kind of a 'holy war' question really. Sort of 'what's best: AMD or Intel?' :)

From my experience, the worst are Hitachi/IBM (I had several DeathStars dead), then Maxtor, then WD and the best ones are Samsung and Seagate (these are still alive).

YMMV


Check whether you WD is still under warranty, they'll replace it (as they did with mine ones).
#2
Samsung in my opinion..and I've tried them all at some time ...if it's SATA drive Samsung have just brought out a new model...but if IDE take a look at this one
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5599&GroupID=473

3% quidco

Have you checked if your WD is still under warranty?...how old is it ?

Buy locally and you'll pay over the odds.
#3
cheers for the replies guys
The WD hard drive was in the desktop I bought 4 years ago so I take it that it is no longer under warranty.

I think i may go for this one, since I can get it straight away tomoz
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0320862337.1167858789@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchaddjkkmgfflcflgceggdhhmdfin.0&page=Product&sku=522861&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&tabIndex=1
#4
I have its big brother (2014) in my PS2 :) Works alright, touch wood...
#5
Yep I have one of those also and it's very quiet and so far so good.

It may be worth going onto the WD website and on the warranty section enter the serial number of the failed drive and it will tell you if the warranty has expired..I'm not sure if it's 3 years or 5 for WD?
#6
It was 3 years, then they changed it to 1, then back to 3.
Seagate is offering 5 years and Samsung - 3.
#7
Hehe, where's Ray?? :-D
#8
If your looking for a FAST sata, but noisy, a western digital raptor drive. If your looking for something to store something on, I'd reccomend hitachi. When I used to support desktop PC's and build them, mostly western digitals and seagates used to fail, don't think I ever have a Hitachi fail, but then there werent so many around.
#9
Raptors arn't noisy. Low priced hard drives are all fair game in dying. The secret is to leave them running 24/7 if you can.
#10
I had 1 deskstar die back in the 90s, to brand them with drives that are over half a decade old is a bit harsh and unfair imo, I know lots of people with the new Hitachis without problems.

My fave brand is WD and Seagate, Samsung i'm sceptical about but arn't shifting as much as the big players so time will tell.

Maxtor is my biggest villian, with so many of my own and others dead over multiple years now.

I know someone that just bought 4 of those £51 WD 320GB 16mb drives I had in Hot Deals and has RAID0 them into a single 1100meg drive (after formating etc), I.E. the equivilant of a 64megcache and 28,800 rpm drive (he has a 500gb backup drive which copies stuff off that main drive every night) since if 1 of those drives die he loses everything, but my point is, HD technology is still a massive bottleneck and using raid setups is what can massively boost their speeds, MS Vista will be advocating flash drive technology, but its unneeded with a next generation raid (raid5/matrix) setup
#11
Can you clarify why RAID is so fast? I mean i would have thought that RAID can only operate as fast as the slowest drive in the configuration?
#12
You can use RAID in stripe mode, so part of file will be saved on one disk, part on another. This is the fastest and most risky mode.

As to Raptors, they are very fast and very expensive. I'd love to have one but can't persuade myself to click the 'buy' button :)
#13
MattC
Can you clarify why RAID is so fast? I mean i would have thought that RAID can only operate as fast as the slowest drive in the configuration?


Imagine using 2 or more shovels to move a pile of sand. That's raid in stripe mode.
#14
My first PC about 4-5 years ago had a 20gb Hitachi Deskstar, which i added another 80gb Hitachi deskstar to, when I built a new one last year I replaced the 20gb one with another Hitachi 80gb - all of them are still running fine (2x80 in new machine 1x20 in old one!)
#15
Raptors ARE noisy. Compared to todays standards of quiet PC's, these go back to old skool hard drive clunking! But are excellent drives.
#16
I dont seem to have any problems with Maxtor and Western Digital brands.
#17
grdesign
Raptors ARE noisy. Compared to todays standards of quiet PC's, these go back to old skool hard drive clunking! But are excellent drives.


A little bit of noise on seeking. Bearing whine was always the enemy.
#18
Seagate are best if your looking for a quiet drive.
#19
Scorpius
Seagate are best if your looking for a quiet drive.


You'd disagree if you heard my son's seagates on raid....really clunky.
#20
For all those with a IBM/Hitachi prejudice:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/05/hitachi-breaks-1tb-hard-drive-barrier-with-7k1000/

Long gone are the days of broken deskstars I think now...
#21
and your point is.. ? :)

IBM always were the best in terms of speed and innovations. But reliability was appaling. Right now I have three dead deskstarts on my bench (need to physically destroy it as it got some sensitive data inside).

But I am 'heavy user' as my PCs are running 24x7x365 and there is a LOT of disk activity. For 'light users' I guess reliability figures will be different.
#22
My point, yourself aside, I'm yet to hear of any horror stories for years now about deskstars dieing, or any hitachi branded drive being problematic :P

And i'm tempted by that 1tb drive depending on its price ofc :)
#23
currychops
You'd disagree if you heard my son's seagates on raid....really clunky.


Maybe I've just been lucky then :)

I've had 4 or 5 seagate drives of various sizes over the years, all of them virtually silent.
#24
schizoboy
My point, yourself aside, I'm yet to hear of any horror stories for years now about deskstars dieing, or any hitachi branded drive being problematic :P

And i'm tempted by that 1tb drive depending on its price ofc :)

Well.. its not just me, there even was a class lawsuit against IBM. But as I said earlier, YMMV :)

As to 1TB, Hitachi are clear leader in terms of capacity, until Seagate will release their version mid-2007. Don't think that price on these models will go down significantly unless others (WD, Samsung) will follow suit. Maybe in 2008 it'll be affordable but not before that.
#25
Scorpius
Maybe I've just been lucky then :)

I've had 4 or 5 seagate drives of various sizes over the years, all of them virtually silent.


Yes so have I it just seems that the one's fitted on Raid to my son's Dell are unusually noisy for Seagates.
#26
Over the years I’ve had all the main brands, a lot is down to pure bad luck but recently I’ve noticed a change

I've still got a few 800mb and 1.2gb Maxtor Quantum’s that although slow do still work. I've taken them out of pc's I’ve repaired or upgraded for mates and kept them, not sure why but there you go. I've just had a 300gb Maxtor crash on me and is currently with Seagate for replacement, I lost 280gb and it was the backup of my pc. A day before that went I had to send back an 80gb Maxtor as Powermax tools gave it an error. S.M.A.R.T wasn't finding anything on boot up but windows was crashing a lot.

Maxtor used to be the best, no contest but recently the failure rate I’ve seen in my customers drives is awful. Now they are Seagate I’m hoping things will improve and more care will be taken in the build. The older drives are still going strong but I don’t know what the problem is with the newer ones.

I’ve had Seagate drives in the past, had a nice SCSI drive that was fast but the circuit board on the back burnt out, that went back. Not had that much trouble with them, the ones I have seen have been fine but I’ve not seen any of the bigger seagates yet. I’ve got a Seagate Momentous 80gb sata in my laptop and that’s nice and quiet but is only as a backup drive.

Hitachi are ok, do the job with no real good or bad points, same for Toshiba.

I work for fujitsu so I know what their drives are like, laptop drives are nice but don’t rate the desktop drives.

Western digital, had a lot of problems with this one. Mainly the 40gb standard entry drive that our customers have. many many failures and at one point a bad batch of 1,000 drives which was fun. Also from my own perspective they are bloody noisy as well.

At the minute I would say Samsung for me are the best. From what I’ve seen they are quiet and seem to cope with most things and the spinpoint series are pretty cheap and they sit in my Xbox no problem ;-)

Like I say there will be other people who have exactly the opposite of me, Love Maxtor and hate Samsung and that’s just the way it is.
#27
Unless hitachis from the last 2-3 start failing spectactularly i won't brand them with the failure of the deskstars.
We all know the history of IBMs, it's wholly biased and unfair to apply it now, constantly bringing it up doesn't help tbh does it?

Seagate mentioned doing a 1.2tb drive after their 750gb release.
#28
schizoboy
Unless hitachis from the last 2-3 start failing spectactularly i won't brand them with the failure of the deskstars.
We all know the history of IBMs, it's wholly biased and unfair to apply it now, constantly bringing it up doesn't help tbh does it?

Seagate mentioned doing a 1.2tb drive after their 750gb release.
My failed IBM were replaced (under warranty) with Hitachi (kudos to them where it is due - they honored the IBM warranty). And guess what? They failed in exactly the same fashion. So, for me Hitachis are definitely no-go. Saying that, I have friends who bought entry-level Hitachi disks (40 and 80GB Deskstars) at the same time as I did and it still works well. But then they are not heavy users.

As to Seagate, I'll believe it when I actually see one. Until then it is just paper press release...

Anyway, I am not going to discuss the IBM/Hitachi issue further as it is really can become a flaming war. :)
#29
Have to agree about the Maxtor hard drives these days, in the past i used to always buy them..... but the last couple have been pretty crap.
#30
Kommunist my IBM died too, but nearly a decade ago now... that was a 30gb.

Seagate owns Maxtor who will improve their reliability hopefully.

It's down to WD to come up with a successor to their 500gb now a proper price war on larger drives would be nice.
#31
I am waiting for larger disks from Samsung and WD too :) Price war is good for us, the consumers :)
#32
Do Samsung have a significant share of the market?
My impression is they don't, but they do seem to help in keeping prices low.
#33
They are number 4 according to ZDNet.

Here is the table:

Seagate 29.0% 34.1% 5.1% Western Digital 18.5% 19.5% 1.0% Hitachi GST 14.4% 15.1% 0.7% Samsung 8.6% 10.5% 1.9% Toshiba 9.3% 8.5% -0.8% Fujitsu 6.8% 6.8% 0.0% Maxtor 11.9% 3.8% -8.1% Excelstor 1.2% 1.5% 0.3% Cornice 0.4% 0.3% -0.1%

As expected, Seagate is taking first position, WD and HGST taking second and third respectively, closely followed by Samsung.
Toshiba and Fujitsu are not playing on desktop market AFAIR, so their figures are only for laptops/embedded devices (such as MP3 players).
Maxtor is down, which is not surprising because of Seagate/Maxtor acqusition process.
Excelstor (I believe they are using old IBM technology under license, but not 100% sure on that) is probably more common in China rather than in the rest of of the world.
As to Cornice, I am surprised to see that they got any sales at all :)

So I believe that HGST and WD will face fierce competition from Samsung and probably some price war. Samsung can afford it, not sure about WD.
#34
Good good, let the terabyte war commence already :)

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