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Big Brother is coming to the internet near you (BT/Talk Talk/Virgin Media)

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Keep an eye out for Phorm which BT, talk talk and Virgin have signed a contract with. Three of the UK's biggest internet service providers have made a move to grab a share of the booming online adv… Read More
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banned9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
Keep an eye out for Phorm which BT, talk talk and Virgin have signed a contract with.

Three of the UK's biggest internet service providers have made a move to grab a share of the booming online advertising market through a new deal that allows them to help serve targeted adverts to their customers.

BT, Virgin Media and Talk Talk have signed exclusive deals with advertising technology company Phorm to use its Open Internet Exchange service.

OIX monitors every website that a customer visits and sends this data back to a central advertising hub.

Relevant ads are then served up to users, replacing more generic display advertising.

Talk talk have agreed that their customers have to opt-in but it seems likely that BT & Virgin will have an opt-out agreement.

I am just posting this for reference in case you do NOT want your ISP monitoring your every move. I will certainly be going for the opt-out option on Virgin.
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banned9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
Thanx for the warning ill make sure to avoid it lol
#2
thanks for that ..... have stored name !
#3
Thanks for the warning. :thumbsup:
#4
Scary - we are constantly being spied on, where will this all lead to in the future?
#5
Not with them, but will keep an eye out for it.
banned#6
sophie***;1730631
Scary - we are constantly being spied on, where will this all lead to in the future?

The future? We're nearly there now with the full electronic surveillance society.

A quarter of the worlds CCTV cameras.

Phone companies can track where their users are 24/7

Monitoring of internet usage

Insurance companies fitting trackers in cars to gather driving habits.

Cue, all the bleedin heart liberals with their "if you aint got nothin to hide then whats the problem?"
#7
This whole opt-out **** is stupid as you need to do it for each computer that uses the internet.
#8
maybe you should change the header. I was gonna avoid this as i thought it was to do with the programme Big Brother
banned#9
deathtrap3000;1730919
This whole opt-out **** is stupid as you need to do it for each computer that uses the internet.

Agreed. Surely the data protection act should mean that companies cannot spy on you to this degree without you opting in?
banned#10
Bump FYI
#11
#12
I have nothing to hide but i certainly don't like that people can view what I've been doing on the net
#13
How do you opt-out?
#14
so how do you opt-out?

can we have more details on how to opt-out from virgin broadband please?

this is ridiculous!!

thanks to the original poster for making everyone aware
#15
thanks for the heads up
#16
As far as i am aware, you will be 'opted-in' unless you tell them you want to 'opt-out'.

But how do you 'opt-out'?
#17
This is Virgin Media's take on the matter.

And their Question and Answers page relating to it. Of most important note:

"Will customers be able to decide whether to use the system?
Customers won’t be forced to use the system, and will have the choice to keep their internet experience exactly as it is now. As we get closer to launch we’ll explain how this will work."
#18
Don't want to scare anyone here but the founder of Phorm - Kent Ertegrul. Also had another company before Phorm came along.

You can find information about his old companies software here:
http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/peopleonpage.shtml

If you think opting out will make you secure from these guys, then good luck. Personally if I was with any of those ISP's I would be switching to another provider asap.
#19
dcx_badass
No you don't thats completely false, you have to do it per house. ISP's don't know how many PC's you have on your network, so you opt out per house.


Thats not what ive read has left me to believe. It says it stores a cookie on your computer which tells it not to send the info to phorn. If that cookie isnt there, theres nothing telling it not to take the info.
banned#20
PhearFactor;1733706
Don't want to scare anyone here but the founder of Phorm - Kent Ertegrul. Also had another company before Phorm came along.

You can find information about his old companies software here:
http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/peopleonpage.shtml

If you think opting out will make you secure from these guys, then good luck. Personally if I was with any of those ISP's I would be switching to another provider asap.

I hope you are living up to your name cos if they propose to monitor you regardless then i will be looking for a new ISP!

I'm a law abiding citizen but respect the right to freedom.

Long may that be :-D
banned#21
Ad-targeting system Phorm must be "opt in" when it is rolled out, says the Information Commissioner Office (ICO)
European data protection laws demand that users must choose to enrol in the controversial system, said the ICO in an amended statement.
The decision could be a blow to Phorm which before now has said it would operate on an "opt out" basis.
The ICO will monitor the trials and commercial rollout of Phorm to ensure data protection laws are observed.
Personal data
Phorm serves up adverts related to a user's web browsing history that it monitors by taking a copy of the places they go and search terms they look for. Adverts related to that history are put on any websites that have signed up to use Phorm.
So far BT, Talk Talk and Virgin have signed up to use the system.
Critics of Phorm say it breaks laws on unwarranted interception of data. Also privacy advocates have objected to the information it gathers about a user's web browsing habits.



Full article:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7339263.stm
#22
have they started this phorm thing yet. My internet has started acting very strange for the past couple of weeks and i keep getting the odd pop up (never had them before) and keep getting this page cannot be displayed and its verrrry slooow. Doing my head in. Ran super antispyware and have cleaned the registry and done lots of virus scans and all the other things, checked the things running on my computer, emailed virgin media and stil today keeps happening. Any advice much appreciated.
banned#23
marshallka;2126257
have they started this phorm thing yet. My internet has started acting very strange for the past couple of weeks and i keep getting the odd pop up (never had them before) and keep getting this page cannot be displayed and its verrrry slooow. Doing my head in. Ran super antispyware and have cleaned the registry and done lots of virus scans and all the other things, checked the things running on my computer, emailed virgin media and stil today keeps happening. Any advice much appreciated.

turn your pc off, unplug your modem and also remove the cable connection from the modem. Wait 30 secs, then reconnect and turn on your pc once modem lights have settled down.
#24
csiman
turn your pc off, unplug your modem and also remove the cable connection from the modem. Wait 30 secs, then reconnect and turn on your pc once modem lights have settled down.


Just rang virgin media and spoke to accounts and told them i think PHORM has been put on my account without my knowledge. They went off the phone and checked then came back and told me to go to webwise and opt out of this. I thought they had to inform you if they put this on. Its invasion of privacy and to those that think its ok believe me its the worst thing i have ever had running on my pc and to make matters worse when i go to webwise and click to opt out i get "this page cannot be displayed". I have just entered the webwise.com to block from my cookies. I shall be back on the phone soon.
banned#25
marshallka;2131072
Just rang virgin media and spoke to accounts and told them i think PHORM has been put on my account without my knowledge. They went off the phone and checked then came back and told me to go to webwise and opt out of this. I thought they had to inform you if they put this on. Its invasion of privacy and to those that think its ok believe me its the worst thing i have ever had running on my pc and to make matters worse when i go to webwise and click to opt out i get "this page cannot be displayed". I have just entered the webwise.com to block from my cookies. I shall be back on the phone soon.

That is unbelievable. Surely they cant auto opt you in to a scanning system. :x
banned#26
marshallka;2131072
Just rang virgin media and spoke to accounts and told them i think PHORM has been put on my account without my knowledge. They went off the phone and checked then came back and told me to go to webwise and opt out of this. I thought they had to inform you if they put this on. Its invasion of privacy and to those that think its ok believe me its the worst thing i have ever had running on my pc and to make matters worse when i go to webwise and click to opt out i get "this page cannot be displayed". I have just entered the webwise.com to block from my cookies. I shall be back on the phone soon.

This is the actual cookie you need to block:-

[url]www.webwise.net[/url]
#27
csiman
This is the actual cookie you need to block:-

[url]www.webwise.net[/url]


Have done that but apparently reading others experiences and googling it they are experimenting on people and then saying "they are not using it yet". The man at virgin went off the phone and then came back and told me to opt out so he knew of something. I told him i thought i had it installed and he asked if i used the virgin media pc guard then he told me to go to webwise.com. It seems the opt out is DISABLED. They should not be allowed to do this. Its invasion of privacy. It slows your computer down and also when you click on pages you keep getting blank pages or this page cannot be displayed. We have never had the computer run so sluggish. I thought we had a virus. The pop ups are from whatever you are googling and we have the best security on our computer.

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